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Ladies...Have the Celebrity Fashion Police Gotten to you?


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On the Apex recently they had signs at the entrance of several restaurants with their dress codes, all the ones with signs all said no hats.   I would think visor qualifies as a hat. And it was enforced with us as well. 

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1 hour ago, cindivan said:

On the Apex recently they had signs at the entrance of several restaurants with their dress codes, all the ones with signs all said no hats.   I would think visor qualifies as a hat. And it was enforced with us as well. 

i agree ...rules apply to all..

glad they plan to enforce them

no hat wearing  at  the table

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Historically women weren't expected to remove their hats indoors due to all the hat pins and hair fussing involved, whereas men were seen as impolite if they kept theirs on indoors.

 

My generation (and I'm no spring chicken) were simply taught the social convention that hats should not be worn indoors for either gender.

 

Three takeaways from this -

1) I wouldn't wear a hat indoors whether there are rules in place or not

2) There is no reason the rules should be gender specific

3) I don't actually care what people wear on a cruise, as long as they feel comfortable and are enjoying their break - it affects me not one jot, but it does irk me that some people are all for a dress code unless it affects them...

 

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1 hour ago, Juni2106 said:

Historically women weren't expected to remove their hats indoors due to all the hat pins and hair fussing involved, whereas men were seen as impolite if they kept theirs on indoors.

 

My generation (and I'm no spring chicken) were simply taught the social convention that hats should not be worn indoors for either gender.

 

Three takeaways from this -

1) I wouldn't wear a hat indoors whether there are rules in place or not

2) There is no reason the rules should be gender specific.

 

Not sure what generation you are from but wearing hats indoors was the norm for women into the 60’s and absolutely required in churches, synagogues etc. Not so long ago really. 

 

I agree those formalities are pretty long gone for most of us and certainly wouldn’t include baseball caps, winter beanies etc. Today the reasoning for some women who keep a hat on is about their hair looks not that it’s inappropriate to remove it although there are women who chose to cover their hair for religious reasons.


Here’s an interesting article about women and hats 

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/when-going-out-without-a-hat-was-grounds-for-scandal.amp

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2 minutes ago, Torfamm said:

Not sure what generation you are but wearing hats indoors was the norm for women until the 60’s.
 

Historically women were expected to cover their heads and hats were traditionally a part of women’s outfits, and absolutely required in churches, synagogues, etc, while men normally removed hats indoors.

 

I think those formalities are pretty long gone for most of us and certainly wouldn’t include baseball caps, winter beanies etc. Today the reasoning for some women who keep a hat on is about their hair looks not that it’s inappropriate to remove it.


Here’s an interesting article about women and hats 

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/when-going-out-without-a-hat-was-grounds-for-scandal.amp

 

ummmmm that's pretty much what I said 😕

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3 minutes ago, Juni2106 said:

 

ummmmm that's pretty much what I said 😕

Yes, edited for clarity The modesty part was missing. It’s easy to forget how recent these changes really are. It’s hard to imagine that a woman being seen without a hat was “scandalous” just sixty years ago

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14 hours ago, newcruzer2 said:

My issue would be.... this being enforced during BREAKFAST on a port day. Seems like all people including  men in ball caps should have been given a pass.

I agree.  Breakfast is very different than dinner.  NCL made me take my hat off one morning at breakfast.  Trust me, the bed head under that hat was far more offensive, as was the hairy arms on the man with the tank top sitting next to me.   I also think the rules need to be followed and they already do too much picking and choosing of what rules are followed and how closely.  This rule may need to be looked at and possibly updated.  

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11 hours ago, mrgabriel said:


My current employer allows everything except workout clothes, leggings that are see through, torn clothes, shorts, and hats (hahaha).

 

My husband has 3 tuxedos in the closet. I still have 2 gowns that I would wear because they’re as comfortable as pyjamas. But who wants to pack long dresses and tuxes? 


Leggings are my other pet peeve.  Imagine if men started wearing them the way women do?  With nothing but a shirt or blouse on top.  It would be like watching a Shakespeare play.

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1 minute ago, zitsky said:


Leggings are my other pet peeve.  Imagine if men started wearing them the way women do?  With nothing but a shirt or blouse on top.

 

When I go into the office I do wear leggings but I tend to match it with over sized tops that come down to my thighs. But I'm doing it out of my own comfort, I'm going in once every 3 months and I've gained a lot of weight over covid that none of my office clothes fit and I'm not rebuying clothes for going in for 6 hours every 3 months. But I'd never wear that going out for dinner, my last cruise I literally went through piece by piece of acceptable dinner clothing in my closet to see what fit (ended up being dresses).

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38 minutes ago, Julma said:

I agree.  Breakfast is very different than dinner.  NCL made me take my hat off one morning at breakfast.  Trust me, the bed head under that hat was far more offensive, as was the hairy arms on the man with the tank top sitting next to me.   I also think the rules need to be followed and they already do too much picking and choosing of what rules are followed and how closely.  This rule may need to be looked at and possibly updated.  


“I shouldn’t have to follow the rules because someone else didn’t.”

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17 hours ago, Kudos2Fly said:

I think a lot of cruise lines are getting more strict with what people wear in the dinning room. I was on Carnival and we did lunch or breakfast in the main dining room and they turn a lady away that had a tank top on. I have worn hats into stores and a few times when we traveled out West I would walk in with one on into a restaurant but take it off when I got inside. 

 

 

If Carnival employed fashion police on the Caribbean cruise we did last month, they would have had to double their staff to keep up. At the buffet, which is just off the main pool area, I saw more cheeks, side boob and hairy backs (sometimes all on the same person!) than I would typically see on a day at the beach. The neat trick of "covering up" with a spider web cover with holes that the Hulk could fit his fist through apparently kept the "fashion police" at bay on a technicality, I guess. It was disgusting. The MDR was better, but definitely saw tank tops, flip flops, etc., and don't recall anyone being asked to change.

 

I'm expecting Celebrity to be a lot better (although it's a September Alaska cruise, so I doubt there will be that much skin showing anyway).

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1 hour ago, zitsky said:


Leggings are my other pet peeve.  Imagine if men started wearing them the way women do?  With nothing but a shirt or blouse on top.  It would be like watching a Shakespeare play.

 

I'd have to start packing more socks.

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18 hours ago, Nashna said:

I consider myself rather fashion-conscious.  I always try to dress appropriately and wouldn't be caught dead wearing inappropriate clothing in the MDR.  Something that happened to me on a recent Edge cruise still bothers me.  We typically had breakfast in the MDR.  This morning, we were leaving for an excursion right after breakfast.  We were being escorted to our table when the waiter stopped and asked me to remove my hat.  My hat was a tennis visor.  When I expressed surprise, he said, "hats are not allowed in the dining room.  You need to remove it."  Of course, I complied, but I had never seen the "no hats" rule applied to ladies.  Is this a new trend?  

In our golf club, no visors in dining rooms and men/ladies remove baseball caps.  I've never seen a visor worn in the X dining rooms.

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49 minutes ago, PH2 said:

If Carnival employed fashion police on the Caribbean cruise we did last month, they would have had to double their staff to keep up. At the buffet, which is just off the main pool area, I saw more cheeks, side boob and hairy backs (sometimes all on the same person!) than I would typically see on a day at the beach. The neat trick of "covering up" with a spider web cover with holes that the Hulk could fit his fist through apparently kept the "fashion police" at bay on a technicality, I guess. It was disgusting. The MDR was better, but definitely saw tank tops, flip flops, etc., and don't recall anyone being asked to change.

 

I'm expecting Celebrity to be a lot better (although it's a September Alaska cruise, so I doubt there will be that much skin showing anyway).

The only cruise I never saw any issues in the main dining room was on Holland. Although on that cruise most every one was over the age of 50. It's been a while since I cruised on Celebrity but during the lunch I do remember it was more relaxed on what people wore there. 

 

The Lido is were people are wearing bathing suits. Unless you are cruising Holland which we have my guess on Caribbean cruises you will see that. Also beaches aren't the best for people wearing clothing that really fits them. I have seen women wear bathing suits that are 3-4 sizes to small and 300 pound women wearing two peace bathing suit with very little material. Not a pretty sight. 

 

I find depending on the length of the cruise you tend to get people to dress better on longer cruises. I have been on Carnival, Royal Caribbean, Holland and Celebrity and I have seen all types of people not dressing right for the occasion or body type. 

 

The longer and higher end cruises tend to be better, but not always depending on were you are cruising. Caribbean cruises tend to be more relaxed on what people wear. 

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24 minutes ago, Kudos2Fly said:


I have seen women wear bathing suits that are 3-4 sizes to small and 300 pound women wearing two peace bathing suit with very little material. Not a pretty sight. 

 

I have seen all types of people not dressing right for the occasion or body type. 

 

 
Wow

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6 hours ago, Torfamm said:

although there are women who chose to cover their hair for religious reasons

 

I am not aware of anyone who requires anyone to remove any religious headwear.

 

Well, I recall a story about Vlad the Impaler, but I don't think he's making Celebrity's policy (although the revolutionized furniture may be evidence to the contrary).

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