NCL Escape - Person Overboard?

I just received a brief call from my daughter that is on the Escape. She said that they will be delayed because someone went overboard at 3:30 this am. Has anyone heard anything?

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I am currently on Freedom of the Seas, Royal Caribbean. Our captain said we are delayed as well as our ship helped search for the missing person. Our captain said around 7am they recovered the body.

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We are on Freedom and I thought they announced it was the Dawn...Said we were called at 5 am to assist...Body recovered at 7:01

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So sad!

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My daughters messages were brief. Her last message said they found the man dead. But she didn't say whether he was recovered from the water or if they found him on the ship.

I wonder if he was missing and at first they thought in the water? I don't know. So sad either way.

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It is being reported via Escapee Live post. So sad!

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We were on the Escape last week and it surprised me that in the muster drill they never advise about ( Man over board ). On our last cruise on Princess they had told the steps if we had to deal with that. A friend of mine had experienced a man ready to jump on another Princess. It was late at night and the guy was passed overboard at the aft hooking up but ready to go. My friend talked to the man and he's sister ran in search for help with the security crew. The employees convinced the man to jump back in and it was a sad Lost money at the casino. In my alone waterfront walks early in the morning I thought about how it was easy to

#1 Jump off for someone in distress

#2 Or fall off while taking a picture at the aft. Good winds out there and it takes only a small water hump to lose feet

On Caribean Princess the aft was really higher than the Escape

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Why in the world would you jump after someone who was overboard? The first rule of rescue is to never place yourself in a position where you complicate the rescue. By jumping in after someone, now the crew have to find two people in the vastness of the ocean.

And, it really isn't that easy to go overboard. No wind under 100mph can lift a human body off the ground (slide it along, yes, but airborne no), and with the height of the railings, unless you are as tall as an NBA player, even if a wind pushed you against the railing you wouldn't go over, nor would momentarily losing your footing in a seaway cause you to go over the railing.

In 42 years at sea, on ships that had open decks 6 feet above the water, with much less substantial railings than cruise ships, and in far worse weather than nearly any cruise ship has been in, have I experienced anyone going overboard by accident.

Why in the world would you jump after someone who was overboard?

chengkp, not 100% sure but I think what quaker meant was that if someone were in distress, it would be easy for them to jump overboard. Sorry if I'm mistaken but that's how I took it.

chengkp, not 100% sure but I think what quaker meant was that if someone were in distress, it would be easy for them to jump overboard. Sorry if I'm mistaken but that's how I took it.

Yep, I think Cheng misread the post.

chengkp, not 100% sure but I think what quaker meant was that if someone were in distress, it would be easy for them to jump overboard. Sorry if I'm mistaken but that's how I took it.

I was just about to post the same thing.

...I thought about how it was easy to

#1 Jump off for someone in distress...

Our room steward said the man was 33 years old. No other details yet that we've heard, but we just got back from a short port visit.

Why in the world would you jump after someone who was overboard? The first rule of rescue is to never place yourself in a position where you complicate the rescue. By jumping in after someone, now the crew have to find two people in the vastness of the ocean.

 

And, it really isn't that easy to go overboard. No wind under 100mph can lift a human body off the ground (slide it along, yes, but airborne no), and with the height of the railings, unless you are as tall as an NBA player, even if a wind pushed you against the railing you wouldn't go over, nor would momentarily losing your footing in a seaway cause you to go over the railing.

 

In 42 years at sea, on ships that had open decks 6 feet above the water, with much less substantial railings than cruise ships, and in far worse weather than nearly any cruise ship has been in, have I experienced anyone going overboard by accident.

If someone jumps over during daylight and if you see them you want try and never loose sight of them. Yell and scream to get someone else's attention to call for help but try and never loose sight of them. At least thats how it was explained to me in my CG boaters course years ago.

I was just about to post the same thing.

 

 

 

...could mean "how easy it was for someone in distress to jump off of the ship"

Yes that was my tought and for the wind thing

I said that in the aft it's a windy place even if there are windbreakers. For someone taking pictures close to the rails could be hazardous in some situations.

When a took my pics there I was not 100% feeling safe

If someone jumps over during daylight and if you see them you want try and never loose sight of them. Yell and scream to get someone else's attention to call for help but try and never loose sight of them. At least thats how it was explained to me in my CG boaters course years ago.

Yes, that and the life rings. Life rings aren't just for someone to hang on to. Throwing them overboard marks the relative position of the initial incident and may contribute to a successful rescue.

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If you look up Man overboard ncl escape april 19 2017 there is a YouTube video of the announcement on the freedom of the seas where the captain explains what happened.

As far as muster drills go, the lines have reconciled themselves to the fact that the vast majority of people (stupidly) are not paying attention (this was made very clear after the Concordia disaster). So they are sticking to what is required and what is relevant to the vast majority of issues and hope that people just remember where their station is and what a life jacket looks like. Things like Man Overboard happen so rarely that they are now addressed by things like in cabin video.

Some ships also have a man overboard detection system, not sure if Escape does. It's being reported the passenger went overboard from deck 14, but no idea what was used to determine that.

As far as muster drills go, the lines have reconciled themselves to the fact that the vast majority of people (stupidly) are not paying attention (this was made very clear after the Concordia disaster). So they are sticking to what is required and what is relevant to the vast majority of issues and hope that people just remember where their station is and what a life jacket looks like. Things like Man Overboard happen so rarely that they are now addressed by things like in cabin video.

 

Some ships also have a man overboard detection system, not sure if Escape does. It's being reported the passenger went overboard from deck 14, but no idea what was used to determine that.

I would not blame the passengers in the Concordia incident, because most of them were doing what they were told not to do, which was remain at their stations. The personnel at the muster stations were taking orders from the idiot on the bridge, who did not want to have them mustered, so there was confusion caused by those following orders, and those that didn't. Thank God most did not follow orders in that incident.

To the best of my knowledge, only Disney ships are fitted with man overboard detection systems, but all ships will have cameras mounted below the bridge wings that cover the entire side of the ship, and these cameras have been used to determine when and why many people have fallen overboard, including the woman on the NCL ship a few years back who climbed around a balcony divider for a late night assignation during an Alaska cruise, and fell to her death.

assignation

Word of the day: assignation

Learn something new every day. Well done, Chief.

Yes, that and the life rings. Life rings aren't just for someone to hang on to. Throwing them overboard marks the relative position of the initial incident and may contribute to a successful rescue.

Your right, and the long time boater in me has me check to see where they are around the ship

I would not blame the passengers in the Concordia incident, because most of them were doing what they were told not to do, which was remain at their stations. The personnel at the muster stations were taking orders from the idiot on the bridge, who did not want to have them mustered, so there was confusion caused by those following orders, and those that didn't. Thank God most did not follow orders in that incident.

 

To the best of my knowledge, only Disney ships are fitted with man overboard detection systems, but all ships will have cameras mounted below the bridge wings that cover the entire side of the ship, and these cameras have been used to determine when and why many people have fallen overboard, including the woman on the NCL ship a few years back who climbed around a balcony divider for a late night assignation during an Alaska cruise, and fell to her death.

As far as muster drills go, the lines have reconciled themselves to the fact that the vast majority of people (stupidly) are not paying attention (this was made very clear after the Concordia disaster). So they are sticking to what is required and what is relevant to the vast majority of issues and hope that people just remember where their station is and what a life jacket looks like. Things like Man Overboard happen so rarely that they are now addressed by things like in cabin video.

 

Some ships also have a man overboard detection system, not sure if Escape does. It's being reported the passenger went overboard from deck 14, but no idea what was used to determine that.

I thought that the Concordia had not held its muster at the time of the incident?

I thought that the Concordia had not held its muster at the time of the incident?

They tried, but couldn't ketchup.

But also, in the post debriefing they determined that many passengers couldn't recall where their stations were. Just based on my own observations during the drills, I figure less than 30 percent actually pay attention unless someone is prompting them too (same as during the airline safety briefing give or take). Speaking to HQ level staff the crew has noticed it to, and there is a conscious effort to focus on the basics so that they can be shorter and hopefully have better absorption.

I would not blame the passengers in the Concordia incident, because most of them were doing what they were told not to do, which was remain at their stations. The personnel at the muster stations were taking orders from the idiot on the bridge, who did not want to have them mustered, so there was confusion caused by those following orders, and those that didn't. Thank God most did not follow orders in that incident.

 

To the best of my knowledge, only Disney ships are fitted with man overboard detection systems, but all ships will have cameras mounted below the bridge wings that cover the entire side of the ship, and these cameras have been used to determine when and why many people have fallen overboard, including the woman on the NCL ship a few years back who climbed around a balcony divider for a late night assignation during an Alaska cruise, and fell to her death.