Hurricane Irma

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#21
Sheffield - UK
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A colleague of mine is going on her first cruise ever next month to the Caribbean with her husband who is a very reluctant cruiser and we was duscussing Irma the other day. The first thing we talked about was the safety of the residents on the island's that they are due to visit which includes St Maarten, the second was the damage to the infrastructure and lastly their cruise to that island.

I suggested that P&O like the other cruise companies will probably be making numerous phone calls to the harbour authorities of the other islands that have not been in the path of the hurricane. The past thing any company would want to do is cancel a cruise because of the significant loss of revenue.

My family and I have been on two Caribbean cruises and we have some fantastic memories of visiting St Maarten and we are planning on going again in a few years time.

How my discussion ended was that if they cannot visit the affected islands, then its a good excuse for another cruise ! However, my colleague said it was unlikely they would be going on another cruise for a number of reasons and they are bitterly disappointed that it is highly likely they cannot visit St Maarten.

Now that is not a selfish or unfeeling emotion, its a fact that they have saved for this holiday for 18 months and for them the highlight of that cruise is likely to be bypassed.

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#22
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Joined Feb 2017
Originally posted by Mark-Sheffield
A colleague of mine is going on her first cruise ever next month to the Caribbean with her husband who is a very reluctant cruiser and we was duscussing Irma the other day. The first thing we talked about was the safety of the residents on the island's that they are due to visit which includes St Maarten, the second was the damage to the infrastructure and lastly their cruise to that island.

I suggested that P&O like the other cruise companies will probably be making numerous phone calls to the harbour authorities of the other islands that have not been in the path of the hurricane. The past thing any company would want to do is cancel a cruise because of the significant loss of revenue.

My family and I have been on two Caribbean cruises and we have some fantastic memories of visiting St Maarten and we are planning on going again in a few years time.

How my discussion ended was that if they cannot visit the affected islands, then its a good excuse for another cruise ! However, my colleague said it was unlikely they would be going on another cruise for a number of reasons and they are bitterly disappointed that it is highly likely they cannot visit St Maarten.

Now that is not a selfish or unfeeling emotion, its a fact that they have saved for this holiday for 18 months and for them the highlight of that cruise is likely to be bypassed.

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Hi Mark,

I'm in a similar situation. I know lots of people are commenting against posts when an individual is asking a question, that will likely require a factual response, rather than an emotional one. I'm sure many of these questions may feel insensitive, but no one knows the reasons for the question in the first place.

We are due to go on our first Caribbean cruise in November and out of all the ports that we definitely wanted to visit is St Maarten. This port has a real emotional pull for my Husband and I. My first born son, all he ever wanted to do from a young age was to fly planes and spent many a time using the flight simulator to 'fly' into St Maarten's Airport as it's a challenging landing strip. My son passed away last year, out of all the ports it was visiting the beach by the airport that was really important to us.

Of course out of everyone, I know true loss as no parent should lose a child, so really feel for those affected by Hurricane Irma, but buildings / homes can be replaced, people can't, so it's those that have lost loved ones where my compassion lies. Unfortunately Hurricane Irma has also affected my plans and this may come across as selfish to some, but as you can see, I have my reasons.


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#24
manchester
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Joined Jul 2014
Just a few thoughts regarding this terrible tragedy. Caribbean islanders are very resilient and although this is the worst hurricane that they have experienced to date, they are actually very experienced in dealing with the aftermath of tropical storms and hurricanes and they will rebuild and bounce back. Of course, this is going to take time and they are going to need lots of financial help wherever it comes from. Depending on which Island they are, some will get more help than others. Cruise lines have a vested interest in helping out and I am sure that they will do their best. We the cruisers should also consider doing something to help. I really do hope that if at all possible, P&O stick to their original ports of call. After all, it is the most damaged Islands that will need the most help. When we go ashore, the weather will still be wonderful, the beaches fabulous and the islander`s charm and hospitality will be the same. What we will see is the aftermath and attempts at rebuilding and trying to carry on earning a living the best way they can. We cruise passengers can and should consider making a tremendous effort to spend more money than we would normally do when ashore. I for one do not want to have my cruise cancelled if at all possible. Why not decide to patronise the market stall holders and small shopkeepers more? Buy an extra beer? Eat a lunch ashore ashore instead of onboard? Tourism is the main economy and the lifeblood of the Islands. Without our help ,life is going to be very hard for years to come. I have enjoyed many visits to these Islands over the years and I intend to be as generous as possible when I go in November ( Arcadia). it will be payback time for me. .
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#25
1,020 Posts
Joined Jan 2015
Originally posted by kevboy
Just a few thoughts regarding this terrible tragedy. Caribbean islanders are very resilient and although this is the worst hurricane that they have experienced to date, they are actually very experienced in dealing with the aftermath of tropical storms and hurricanes and they will rebuild and bounce back. Of course, this is going to take time and they are going to need lots of financial help wherever it comes from. Depending on which Island they are, some will get more help than others. Cruise lines have a vested interest in helping out and I am sure that they will do their best. We the cruisers should also consider doing something to help. I really do hope that if at all possible, P&O stick to their original ports of call. After all, it is the most damaged Islands that will need the most help. When we go ashore, the weather will still be wonderful, the beaches fabulous and the islander`s charm and hospitality will be the same. What we will see is the aftermath and attempts at rebuilding and trying to carry on earning a living the best way they can. We cruise passengers can and should consider making a tremendous effort to spend more money than we would normally do when ashore. I for one do not want to have my cruise cancelled if at all possible. Why not decide to patronise the market stall holders and small shopkeepers more? Buy an extra beer? Eat a lunch ashore ashore instead of onboard? Tourism is the main economy and the lifeblood of the Islands. Without our help ,life is going to be very hard for years to come. I have enjoyed many visits to these Islands over the years and I intend to be as generous as possible when I go in November ( Arcadia). it will be payback time for me. .
We are on the same cruise in November. Totally agree with every word you say, and will have two extra beers to help the economy (!) as well as spending as much as we can.
#26
Teignmouth
318 Posts
Joined Aug 2011
Originally posted by wowzz
We are on the same cruise in November. Totally agree with every word you say, and will have two extra beers to help the economy (!) as well as spending as much as we can.
While I agree with the sentiment I think the last thing the devastated islanders need right now is hordes of tourists gawping and photographing the destruction.
They need concerted international aid to rebuild and reinstate electricity and clean water supplies.
I hope the cruise lines, who profit greatly from the beautiful Caribbean, will put their hands in their coffers and enable the islanders to return to normality as soon as possible.
#27
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Joined Jan 2015
Originally posted by jake 26
While I agree with the sentiment I think the last thing the devastated islanders need right now is hordes of tourists gawping and photographing the destruction.
They need concerted international aid to rebuild and reinstate electricity and clean water supplies.
I hope the cruise lines, who profit greatly from the beautiful Caribbean, will put their hands in their coffers and enable the islanders to return to normality as soon as possible.
I doubt any cruise lines will be calling until the infrastructure is back in place, and no one us talking about disaster sightseeing.
#28
Teignmouth
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Joined Aug 2011
Originally posted by wowzz
I doubt any cruise lines will be calling until the infrastructure is back in place, and no one us talking about disaster sightseeing.
No, of course no one is talking about disaster sightseeing.
Lots of selfie sticks at the Grenfell tower though....
#29
1 Posts
Joined Sep 2017
I am on a cruise in november and we are going to the places that have been affected by irma. I was hopping that we would still be docking at them as these poor people rely on the tourism. So far P&O have not said anything.
#30
West Sussex, UK.
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Joined Jul 2005
This is pretty much a "cut & paste" from what I posted on my roll-call board - I am sure that P&O will wait a while before making any binding decisions. They will be following corporate instructions from Carnival HQ and P&O itself is in the fortunate position (if you can call it that in this terrible situation) of not having any of its ships in the Caribbean at present. I think their first will be Arcadia in mid-October as that is the first of the T/As this autumn. They may wait until the last minute before updating passengers with any amendments to the schedule and possibly not until ships have already left the UK.


This will remain a very fluid situation for months to come as while the islands will want to get the ships back in as soon as possible, some of the cruise lines may not be so willing and in the Caribbean, the cruise lines are, it has to be said, spoiled for choice. Sadly for the worst affected islands, there are other destinations the cruise lines can easily reschedule their ships into (and do so regularly in the Caribbean for a variety of reasons) - many of the islands are so close together, it is baffling to see how some have escaped and yet others that are not far away have been so devastated.


For those heading to the Caribbean on this autumn's T/As, I personally expect we will have to wait a while for more news. All of the information coming out from other cruise lines regarding rerouting ships with changes to the ports of call are those companies with ships already in the area or about to enter the area very soon.
#31
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Joined Jan 2015
Originally posted by Kimlb
I am on a cruise in november and we are going to the places that have been affected by irma. I was hopping that we would still be docking at them as these poor people rely on the tourism. So far P&O have not said anything.
For goodness sake - it's less than a week since the disaster. As has been said, more time is needed so that the situation in each island can be considered.
#32
Scotland
784 Posts
Joined Aug 2012
It's in interesting to read here on Cruise Critic in the news section about the aid and support that the cruise lines have been providing during this situation. Nice to see that they are giving some help.
#33
West Yorkshire UK
3,220 Posts
Joined Jul 2004
Originally posted by Kimlb
I am on a cruise in november and we are going to the places that have been affected by irma. I was hopping that we would still be docking at them as these poor people rely on the tourism. So far P&O have not said anything.
There is a whole range of responses on their Q&A page on the website if you would take the time to look before you leap into print.

http://www.pocruises.com/caribbeanupdate/
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#34
West Sussex, UK.
127 Posts
Joined Jul 2005
Originally posted by terrierjohn
There is a whole range of responses on their Q&A page on the website if you would take the time to look before you leap into print.

http://www.pocruises.com/caribbeanupdate/
I quite agree - so many questions get asked on so many boards/threads where the specific answer is already available (often from the cruise companies' own websites). These boards would be half their size if unneccessary questions were not asked and also importantly, duplicate questions. I don't think the "search board" button gets a lot of use by some people.

Rant over!
#35
Worcester UK
31 Posts
Joined Aug 2015
Originally posted by Orianababes
Due out mid November on a cruise. Hope we can get to affected islands to be able to help their economies by shopping, using restaurants and hiring taxis.
We are also going in late November and hope to go to these as well

we all need to spend money in there shops and bars
#36
Cirencester England
35 Posts
Joined Oct 2010
Hi

Like everyone praying for the islanders, but would be nice to hear from P&O as well.
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#37
1,020 Posts
Joined Jan 2015
Originally posted by maggiesmum
Hi

Like everyone praying for the islanders, but would be nice to hear from P&O as well.
They have commented. Just go to the official P&O Facebook page.
#38
Teignmouth
318 Posts
Joined Aug 2011
Originally posted by maggiesmum
Hi

Like everyone praying for the islanders, but would be nice to hear from P&O as well.
I think P&O have responded to the best of their ability given the ongoing situation.
See the post by terrierjohn.
#39
UK
2,421 Posts
Joined Sep 2011
Originally posted by jake 26
I think P&O have responded to the best of their ability given the ongoing situation.
See the post by terrierjohn.
Ditto.
#40
West Sussex, UK.
127 Posts
Joined Jul 2005
Originally posted by maggiesmum
Hi

Like everyone praying for the islanders, but would be nice to hear from P&O as well.
We have heard from them (and their sister companies Princess, Cunard, HAL, Carnival etc). They are being very clear on their position and trying to answer what they think will be the "top questions" from most people. They have published their response on their website and on their Facebook page - what more do you want to hear? Go looking and you will find the answers