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IMO a large number of people are assuming there will be people who will be happy to sail Cunard with a relaxed dress code than they would have been under the old code.

Can someone explain to me why they would want to spend more on a Cunard cruise when they can continue to cruise on cheaper lines offering the same experience? It just doesn't make economic sense.

Don't say it is for the ambiance of Cunard because that will no longer be unique, as it will just be like every other line. I accept that TA's might be an exception, (for the time being).
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It's the "Holland America Principle" at work, this time with Cunard... everything they portray, everything they change all says to their regular, established clientele "It would be ever so nice if you weren't here". Every company aspires to ageless Millennial hipsters it appears and anyone over the age of 60 is invisible in the self delusional company PR take on itself.

The irony is Millennial Hipsters still don't take Holland America or Cunard. Indeed, I work in an office where 75% of the folks are Millennial Hipsters and 30-somethings. And not one.. not a one (to my knowledge) has taken a cruise. Or even considered one. And I am the travel manager.

So if all this is designed to attract them, it's... delusional at worst, aspirational at best.

But I don't want to let Cunard down come this August on QE. I can still wear a trim fit suit and will have to work on that 7-day stubble. It's more salt than salt and pepper but hey...
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The enforcement question
Received a "Reaching Out" (his words) call from a guy with an American accent.
Blahdy Bladhy Blah - Training - Blah Blah
Yes or no?
More verbage
Please answer my question with a yes or a no?
Waffle Waffle
Please answer the question I asked with a yes or a no in writing
Waffle - then asking why in writing
Because I will post on Social Media Patforms, and if a yes, will take the actual reply on the ship to use as an enforcement tool.
More waffle with a get back to you


Seems a simple yes or a simple no is causing Cunard and or Carnival problems.
One wonders why.
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Originally posted by PORT ROYAL
The enforcement question
Received a "Reaching Out" (his words) call from a guy with an American accent.
Blahdy Bladhy Blah - Training - Blah Blah
Yes or no?
More verbage
Please answer my question with a yes or a no?
Waffle Waffle
Please answer the question I asked with a yes or a no in writing
Waffle - then asking why in writing
Because I will post on Social Media Patforms, and if a yes, will take the actual reply on the ship to use as an enforcement tool.
More waffle with a get back to you


Seems a simple yes or a simple no is causing Cunard and or Carnival problems.
One wonders why.
My guess is that the answer to will they enforce is no, but they won't admit to it. I would hope that the guy you spoke to is smart enough to figure out that someone asking for verification of enforcement is one who wants to see the rules enforced. If so, he didn't want to lie to you and he didn't want to tell you the sad truth.
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Originally posted by wripro
And to which cruise line with a sore suitable dress code will you take your 30K GBP per year?
The point is you can go away if you wish and Cunard will survive without you. If there us no other line that's formal enough for you, maybe the problem isn't all the cruise lines.
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Originally posted by goodsailors

Can someone explain to me why they would want to spend more on a Cunard cruise when they can continue to cruise on cheaper lines offering the same experience? It just doesn't make economic sense.

Don't say it is for the ambiance of Cunard because that will no longer be unique, as it will just be like every other line. I accept that TA's might be an exception, (for the time being).
Despite my post above, that's where I am now. If I don't see a good reason to pay extra to travel on Cunard vs. Princess or HAL (and there are reasons aside from dress code, IMO) I'll spend my cruise $ on Princess or HAL (etc) rather than chasing down one of 3 or 4 Cunard ships somewhere in the world.
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Originally posted by Underwatr
The point is you can go away if you wish and Cunard will survive without you. If there us no other line that's formal enough for you, maybe the problem isn't all the cruise lines.
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Some of the posters threatening to leave are overestimating their importance to a laughable degree.
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I have never sailed on Cunard but I have booked a T/A in Oct. for 2019. I went to my documents to see what the dress code is. It's still showing the same dress code that was showing in Oct. So my question is, what is the new dress code and where can I find it. I'm a bit confused now on the dress code. Thanks for any info you can offer.
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Originally posted by smarks
I have never sailed on Cunard but I have booked a T/A in Oct. for 2019. I went to my documents to see what the dress code is. It's still showing the same dress code that was showing in Oct. So my question is, what is the new dress code and where can I find it. I'm a bit confused now on the dress code. Thanks for any info you can offer.
Cunard have very carelessly spread a lot of confusion and angst by changing the wording of the dress code in an ambiguous way and by extending the areas of the ship in which casual dress is acceptable as an alternative to the evening's dress code.

The formal and informal dress code haven't really changed as far as I can see, just the way they're described, so if you were planning to dress up then stick to what's in your documentation and you can't go wrong.
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Originally posted by smarks
I have never sailed on Cunard but I have booked a T/A in Oct. for 2019. I went to my documents to see what the dress code is. It's still showing the same dress code that was showing in Oct. So my question is, what is the new dress code and where can I find it. I'm a bit confused now on the dress code. Thanks for any info you can offer.
The dress code can be found several places, each with somewhat different wording. Within your voyage personliser, the dress code can be found under "Dining", "What to Wear" and also under "Preparing to Go", "Packing for Your Holiday".

On the main Cunard web site itself, information about the dress code can be found here under "The Cunard Experience", "What to Pack".

http://www.cunard.com/life-on-board/what-to-pack/

The dress code is also explained in at least three different places on the Cunard UK FAQ for these questions.

Is there a dress code on board?
What will the dress code be whilst I am on board?
Does the dress code apply to all areas of the ship?

But since it looks like you are in the US, you don't have access to the Cunard UK FAQ site without resulting to tricks to make it look like you reside in the UK. Most of this has been posted here before, but since you asked and you probably don't have access to it, here is the full answer to the question "Is there a dress code on board?" from the Cunard UK FAQ which contains some details not readily available in the US.

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Q. Is there a dress code on board?

During the day, feel free to relax and dress as you please in all areas of the ship. Then as the sun goes down, the style goes up. Every night on board, we ask that you wear smart attire in most of our bars, restaurants and entertainment venues. On our much-anticipated Gala evenings, we invite you to dress to impress and celebrate with us. There are two or three of these special Gala evenings for every seven days of your voyage.

Of course, if you prefer to spend your evenings in more relaxed attire, a selection of casual dining and entertainment venues is always available for your enjoyment.

A full break down of dress codes, the number of Gala nights and any themed balls can be viewed via the following question with the suggested attire for each type of evening: What will the dress code be whilst I am on board?

During the day

Casual shirts, shorts, trousers and beachwear are ideal. The main restaurants require a casual wear dress code for breakfast and lunch, however you may wear shorts in either the Kings Court (Queen Mary 2) or Lido Restaurant (Queen Victoria & Queen Elizabeth).

Evenings

Evenings will be split into 2 different dress codes. You will be notified of the evening's dress code in your Daily Programme. As a guide, these will be:

Gala:
On Gala nights it’s dinner jacket, tuxedo, or dark suit for the men with a regular tie or bow tie. Evening or cocktail dress, smart trouser suit, or formal separates for the ladies please.

Smart Attire:
Gentlemen, every night we request you wear smart trousers with a shirt and jacket; tie is optional. Ladies, blouses and skirts or stylish trousers and dresses are welcome.

For those who want some further help and guidance, or wish to view some examples of evening and day wear, please visit our What To Pack page on our website.

Please note that after 6:00pm, shorts and blue or worn denim (for men and women); sandals and sleeveless tops (for men) are not considered appropriate within the ship.

Of course, if you prefer to spend your evenings in more relaxed attire, a selection of casual dining and entertainment venues is always available for your enjoyment. Feel free to dress casually as you visit any of the following venues: Kings Court, Lido Buffet, Golden Lion, Casino, Carinthia Lounge, Winter Garden, Garden Lounge, Yacht Club, and G32. Non-ripped, jeans are appropriate, but please refrain from wearing shorts, sports attire, swim wear or sleeveless t-shirts outside of the gym, spa and deck spaces.

Children
Children under 18 do not have a dress code but should adhere to the daily dress code where possible.

National/Religious dress
National and Religious dress including headdress' are allowed on board. Depending on the amount of the face covered by the headdress, guests may be asked to unveil for a security photo at check in and passing through security check points ashore and on board during the voyage.

Some items of national dress such as ceremonial blades or swords are not permitted and guests should check our list of prohibited items under the question What am I not allowed to take on board?
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Originally posted by LB_NJ
I think they are making a marketing mistake. Many large companies completely screw up. I have yet to hear a clear explanation of why people would cruise on Cunard instead of another line once the dress code changes. If you travel Britannia there are other lines that would provide the same experience at lower rates. If you travel Grills there are other luxury lines where the WHOLE ship is a luxury class.

There is a building in Manhattan that I still happen call the Pan Am building because that is what it was called when I was young.

We will have to see.
Anyone remember "New Coke"? So much for the brilliance of marketing departments
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What does this little bit of ambiguity mean?? " DURING THE DAY --Casual shirts, shorts, trousers and beachwear are ideal. The main restaurants require a casual wear dress code for breakfast and lunch, however you may wear shorts in either the Kings Court (Queen Mary 2) or Lido Restaurant (Queen Victoria & Queen Elizabeth). '
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Originally posted by bazzaw
What does this little bit of ambiguity mean?? " DURING THE DAY --Casual shirts, shorts, trousers and beachwear are ideal. The main restaurants require a casual wear dress code for breakfast and lunch, however you may wear shorts in either the Kings Court (Queen Mary 2) or Lido Restaurant (Queen Victoria & Queen Elizabeth). '


You can wear Bermuda or walking shorts into the dining rooms for breakfast or lunch but not a bathing suit or cover up. Basically what you would wear to golf in would work. After 6pm the evenings dress code kicks in.
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Originally posted by bazzaw
What does this little bit of ambiguity mean?? " DURING THE DAY --Casual shirts, shorts, trousers and beachwear are ideal. The main restaurants require a casual wear dress code for breakfast and lunch, however you may wear shorts in either the Kings Court (Queen Mary 2) or Lido Restaurant (Queen Victoria & Queen Elizabeth). '
Just to be clear about it, that 'little bit of ambiguity' is not new. That's a holdover from the previous dress code and has caused confusion in the past. I wish Cunard would either remove or revise that statement since it certainly gives the impression that shorts are not allowed in the main dining rooms for breakfast and lunch.
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Originally posted by MarkieMarkNYC
+1
Some of the posters threatening to leave are overestimating their importance to a laughable degree.
Not even in the least. I just know how hard I work, how much the voyage costs for the accommodation level I book, and what I am looking for on Cunard - and what I had found aboard in the past. The reason I would cancel my voyage in favor of other vacations is precisely because I know how important my one reservation is to them - that is to say, not at all. This is a place to discuss the changes and everyone is doing that.
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Originally posted by kentchris
Cunard have very carelessly spread a lot of confusion and angst by changing the wording of the dress code in an ambiguous way and by extending the areas of the ship in which casual dress is acceptable as an alternative to the evening's dress code.

The formal and informal dress code haven't really changed as far as I can see, just the way they're described, so if you were planning to dress up then stick to what's in your documentation and you can't go wrong.
Thank you for the reply.
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Originally posted by bluemarble
The dress code can be found several places, each with somewhat different wording. Within your voyage personliser, the dress code can be found under "Dining", "What to Wear" and also under "Preparing to Go", "Packing for Your Holiday".

On the main Cunard web site itself, information about the dress code can be found here under "The Cunard Experience", "What to Pack".

http://www.cunard.com/life-on-board/what-to-pack/

The dress code is also explained in at least three different places on the Cunard UK FAQ for these questions.

Is there a dress code on board?
What will the dress code be whilst I am on board?
Does the dress code apply to all areas of the ship?

But since it looks like you are in the US, you don't have access to the Cunard UK FAQ site without resulting to tricks to make it look like you reside in the UK. Most of this has been posted here before, but since you asked and you probably don't have access to it, here is the full answer to the question "Is there a dress code on board?" from the Cunard UK FAQ which contains some details not readily available in the US.

====================

Q. Is there a dress code on board?

During the day, feel free to relax and dress as you please in all areas of the ship. Then as the sun goes down, the style goes up. Every night on board, we ask that you wear smart attire in most of our bars, restaurants and entertainment venues. On our much-anticipated Gala evenings, we invite you to dress to impress and celebrate with us. There are two or three of these special Gala evenings for every seven days of your voyage.

Of course, if you prefer to spend your evenings in more relaxed attire, a selection of casual dining and entertainment venues is always available for your enjoyment.

A full break down of dress codes, the number of Gala nights and any themed balls can be viewed via the following question with the suggested attire for each type of evening: What will the dress code be whilst I am on board?

During the day

Casual shirts, shorts, trousers and beachwear are ideal. The main restaurants require a casual wear dress code for breakfast and lunch, however you may wear shorts in either the Kings Court (Queen Mary 2) or Lido Restaurant (Queen Victoria & Queen Elizabeth).

Evenings

Evenings will be split into 2 different dress codes. You will be notified of the evening's dress code in your Daily Programme. As a guide, these will be:

Gala:
On Gala nights it’s dinner jacket, tuxedo, or dark suit for the men with a regular tie or bow tie. Evening or cocktail dress, smart trouser suit, or formal separates for the ladies please.

Smart Attire:
Gentlemen, every night we request you wear smart trousers with a shirt and jacket; tie is optional. Ladies, blouses and skirts or stylish trousers and dresses are welcome.

For those who want some further help and guidance, or wish to view some examples of evening and day wear, please visit our What To Pack page on our website.

Please note that after 6:00pm, shorts and blue or worn denim (for men and women); sandals and sleeveless tops (for men) are not considered appropriate within the ship.

Of course, if you prefer to spend your evenings in more relaxed attire, a selection of casual dining and entertainment venues is always available for your enjoyment. Feel free to dress casually as you visit any of the following venues: Kings Court, Lido Buffet, Golden Lion, Casino, Carinthia Lounge, Winter Garden, Garden Lounge, Yacht Club, and G32. Non-ripped, jeans are appropriate, but please refrain from wearing shorts, sports attire, swim wear or sleeveless t-shirts outside of the gym, spa and deck spaces.

Children
Children under 18 do not have a dress code but should adhere to the daily dress code where possible.

National/Religious dress
National and Religious dress including headdress' are allowed on board. Depending on the amount of the face covered by the headdress, guests may be asked to unveil for a security photo at check in and passing through security check points ashore and on board during the voyage.

Some items of national dress such as ceremonial blades or swords are not permitted and guests should check our list of prohibited items under the question What am I not allowed to take on board?
Thank You John for the reply. I have seen a lot of this in my research. I have been reading so much about the change in the dress code, it got a bit confusing. Of course formal to an American can be quite different than formal to a Brit. I will do my best to be appropriate.
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Originally posted by Underwatr
The point is you can go away if you wish and Cunard will survive without you. If there us no other line that's formal enough for you, maybe the problem isn't all the cruise lines.
One's focus is that of enforcement. No enforcement by Cunard equates to the slippery slope down to Carnival Dress Code standard.
This is why one is challenging Cunard's wording, to ensure their intentions are made transparent.
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The only difference in the suggested attire to that which I have seen on board is that a jumper and jacket are now considered "smart".
As to people being unsuitably attired in the theatre, this is probably due to being allowed into the theatre before the crew members enforcing the dress code do not turn up until 10 minutes before the show starts,at times.
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Originally posted by bluemarble
Just to be clear about it, that 'little bit of ambiguity' is not new. That's a holdover from the previous dress code and has caused confusion in the past. I wish Cunard would either remove or revise that statement since it certainly gives the impression that shorts are not allowed in the main dining rooms for breakfast and lunch.
I would not hold your Breath, as regular passengers know that tailored shorts have been allowed in The Britannia Restaurant for Breakfast and Lunch for ages.

I do not think that the change of wording Gala Evening (Formal) and Smart Attire Jacket Requested (Informal Jacket Required) will make any difference, except to new potential customers. Ties got withdrawn from the informal dress code years ago, yet you still see them worn by many passengers.

To me this thread is hilarious, with posters threatening to Call the "Clothes Police" whilst on board. I personally am far to busy enjoying myself on board.

At some stage in our lives we will sadly not be able or alive to travel Cunard.
Cunard as a business has to gain new customers, not only for its shareholders but to survive as a business, so those posters threatening to boycott them will not make any difference to Carnival.

The World and Dress is changing fact !

Just Chill everyone and relax . After all its 6pm when the dress code kicks in, by the time you take Dinner into account (Chatting and interacting with your table mates) and have visited the Theatre, once the lights have dimmed I cannot see any reason why anyone would bother to notice anyone else's clothing, too busy enjoying the acts. Then its nearly time for Bed, Perhaps a drink in the Chart room, most people have removed jackets or untied their Bow tie by then anyway due to the heat, Then to G32 or Yacht Club when then there is no need for the dress code. Those in the Ball room dancing will obviously be dressed for that occasion anyway.

Twisted knickers come to mind.
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