Warning Dream deck 8 aft 9A wraps

[sunlover5]

I thought the same thing about that dead space!!!!!!!!!!!!! It also seems that the Empress (deck 7) aft wrap is not as big as it is on the Liberty. We were right next door and the nice couple let us look! Doesn't really matter to me....told my DH I feel silly having that balcony for just us two!:eek: My sister and her DH have the L-shaped cabin next to us, but unfortunately our TA says the dividers will not open on the Dream. Oh well, they can come over and visit.

[w8ing2cruz]

If this is your first aft regardless of what the wrap part is like you will probably LOVE it. We fell in love with listening to and watching the wake of the ship! It's mesmerizing! I'll be anxiously awaiting your report and hopefully pictures :p

[camper49]

We just booked our first 9a ..deck 8...8473...not til jan. 0f 2011 but now we are wondering if we did the right thing.....wonder if we should try to change to deck 7???

[jetwet1]

I thought the same thing about that dead space!!!!!!!

 

Good I am not losing my mind then ! well at least over this :D

 

We just booked our first 9a ..deck 8...8473...not til jan. 0f 2011 but now we are wondering if we did the right thing.....wonder if we should try to change to deck 7???

 

I would of switched already, however we have friends all around us, so we are kind of stuck.

[KruznKel]

It looks to me deck 8 has more balcony on the side than aft.. but there still is aft space ;)

[jetwet1]

It looks to me deck 8 has more balcony on the side than aft.. but there still is aft space ;)

 

That's the thing, I think the majority of the side is the balcony for 8462 and 8469

[happy cruzin]

In an effort to get an answer to all of this I forwarded our concerns - with the attached marked photos to Host Mach and asked if he knew anyone at Carnival who could answer our questions.

 

In photo #1 I identified the 6 aft extended balcony cabins that are shown on the deck plans with a yellow rectangle and the cabin with the partition in question with the red circle. Photo #2 shows the same cabin - on the other side, just for reference.

 

Mach is currently on the Crazies cruise but responded saying that I should let anyone who is concerned know that he will ask John tomorrow - or Monday - after they are back on shore.

 

If I hear anything else - I will let you know!

Edited September 27, 2009 by happy cruzin

[themnms]

If this is your first aft regardless of what the wrap part is like you will probably LOVE it. We fell in love with listening to and watching the wake of the ship! It's mesmerizing! I'll be anxiously awaiting your report and hopefully pictures :p

 

 

Well I wil certainly do both!! lol..I have a camcorder and camera!!

[mafiadon]

I tried to lighten up the picture so that you could see the cabin better, don't know if this helps you. Linda

[jetwet1]

Thanks for that, ok so lets figure this out, the cabin in the middle, from the middle with the lights on, with a door window window and the divider cutting through the right hand window in the picture, is that the 9A or is the next cabin over the 9A ?

[balcony bound]

what cabin # do you have? we have 8466 on the next sailing!

 

That's our cabin for New Years... could you come back and let me know how it is?:confused:

[flyingb]

Check out the deck plans, looks like a large wrap to me.

Luv's Crisin'

[happy cruzin]

Check out the deck plans' date=' looks like a large wrap to me.

Luv's Crisin'[/quote']

 

We all agree that the deck plans show the wraps. The question is the deck plans compared to the actual photos.

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

From what I read on John's Blog a few weeks ago -- he was going to be taking video of many different cabins - including aft cabins, when he was aboard. I can only assume he did that, and at this point is holding out (or I should say Carnival is holding out). Although there were a lot of great (still) shots by Radu, there was not much in the way of video. John in the Lobby, John in the Casino walking outside and back in, and then his Catwalk (TEASE).

 

I appreciate all that he did relay back to us -- but for some reason I was expecting (ok- hoping for) more video. :confused:

 

As far as comparing the balconies of deck 6,7, and 8 aft corners. That was very tough over a year ago when the deck plans were released. I could not really decide - thus we booked ALL THREE (though over different sailings ;)). When you look at the plans, the first thing which stood out to me was the number of Cat 8 cabins between the corners. There are 6 on deck 6 and 8 - though there are 8 on deck 7. That tends to throw everything off, at least in an apples to apples comparison. They all appear to have pros and cons. Time will tell!

 

I (STILL) think that they should have taken the corners on at least one deck and made some KILLER suites. I mean... throw TWO in there at least! :rolleyes:

 

Tom

[happy cruzin]

From what I read on John's Blog a few weeks ago -- he was going to be taking video of many different cabins - including aft cabins, when he was aboard. I can only assume he did that, and at this point is holding out (or I should say Carnival is holding out). Although there were a lot of great (still) shots by Radu, there was not much in the way of video. John in the Lobby, John in the Casino walking outside and back in, and then his Catwalk (TEASE).

 

I appreciate all that he did relay back to us -- but for some reason I was expecting (ok- hoping for) more video. :confused:

 

As far as comparing the balconies of deck 6,7, and 8 aft corners. That was very tough over a year ago when the deck plans were released. I could not really decide - thus we booked ALL THREE (though over different sailings ;)). When you look at the plans, the first thing which stood out to me was the number of Cat 8 cabins between the corners. There are 6 on deck 6 and 8 - though there are 8 on deck 7. That tends to throw everything off, at least in an apples to apples comparison. They all appear to have pros and cons. Time will tell!

 

I (STILL) think that they should have taken the corners on at least one deck and made some KILLER suites. I mean... throw TWO in there at least! :rolleyes:

 

Tom

 

My thoughts exactly. I know the Dream is bigger and a different configuration - over all than any other ship. But I too was surprised to see how many extended aft cabins there were!

 

We had the same issues that you did - over a year ago when we booked. It was tough to look at the plans - trying to determine which 9A-wrap would be "best" - since there was nothing to go on except the published deck plans. We finally settled on 8473 - nearer the Lido and not all that different in the balcony configuration to the others and maybe even a little more cabin space, according to the published deck plans. Since you will have stayed in all of them we will be anxiously awaiting your comparisons. You certainly have never steered us wrong before ;)!!

 

I really hope that the concern here is some sort of optical illusion and that what looks like a balcony divider is really something else :cool:. Maybe John will post some photos and videos that will answer the question.

[happy cruzin]

Thanks for that, ok so lets figure this out, the cabin in the middle, from the middle with the lights on, with a door window window and the divider cutting through the right hand window in the picture, is that the 9A or is the next cabin over the 9A ?

 

That seems to be the $10,000.00 question.

[Amerikaner83]

Squeaker and I are also in 8473 (starboard side 9A) in May, I'm anxiously waiting for confirmation that this is just people's eyes betraying them, and it IS a true wrap!

 

I asked John Heald for pics of the 9A aft wraps as well, a few days ago in his blog - he has yet to respond :-)

Edited September 27, 2009 by Amerikaner83

[KruznKel]

I tried to lighten up the picture so that you could see the cabin better, don't know if this helps you. Linda

 

 

From this pic you can clearly see it is a true aft .. which I posted earlier most of the wrap is on the side.. the middle light shows the partition.. it is a plexiglass partition as it is one that opens between balconies and is not the full metal/steel or the pure white ones you see clearly..

[happy cruzin]

Ok...just got off of the phone with my CVS.

 

She totally understands our concerns and agrees that if the circled cabin in my photos is in fact 8473 - then we have paid for an aft-wrap balcony that we are not getting :eek:.

 

She and her Supervisor have contacted the ship to ask for photos and specific dimensions for 8473 of the balcony and the cabin. They also have elevated the concern to the next level of Supervisors for clarification as well.

 

So....now we wait for a response from the Supervisors and the ship. When I hear anything else - I will let you know.

[jetwet1]

Fantastic !

[MikeM]

Nice job Happy Cruzin. Were also waiting to make a wrap booking on the Dream.

Edited September 28, 2009 by MikeM
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[jules815]

One thing about that second picture... you get a real good look at those Cove balconies... thats pretty cool....

 

Agreed! I was excited to see people out on the cove balconies. That's what we've booked for June! :D

[happy cruzin]

Nice job Happy Cruzin. Were also waiting to make a wrap booking on the Dream.

 

Thanks! I just want to get the real answer :rolleyes:.

 

Don't get me wrong. I will be REALLY bummed if our cabin in not a wrap :(. But I have to keep reminding myself that if the deck plans are not what was actually built then it is a problem at lot bigger than just me :eek:!

 

Not surprising....but my CVS told me yesterday that all of the wraps are sold out through March. Which could prove to be very interesting. There could be alot of unhappy people.

 

So......for now.... I am still hoping that our eyes are playing tricks on us :o.

[jetwet1]

It wouldn't be the first time the deck plans have not matched what was actually there, before we really got into CC we went on a cruise on the Legend, when we booked the cabin we did a 3-way call with our TA and the CCL rep, we picked out 4226, a CAT 11 suite.

 

Of course 5 minutes of searching on here would of told us that that is not the one to go for as there is a stairway that cuts right by the bedroom window AND removes 2/3 of the balcony.

 

Needless to say that we were more than a little shocked to find our balcony missing, a quick phone call to our TA resulted in CCL saying there wasn't a stairways there (so I am blind), however there was a 12 open, but I had to go to the pursers desk to pay them the difference to move.

 

Well I guess in the time that it took me to get from the cabin to the desk it had been sold :(, however the amusing thing to me was, they denied there was a stairway there as well.

 

Well we were ready to walk off the ship, but friends from Europe had flown in to cruise with us, so we were kind of stuck.

 

We woke up to a person looking through the curtains at us (have the picture) and it became a very frequent thing for people to knock on the window as they climbed the stairs, very annoying.

 

I called CCL when we returned, of course there was no stairway in their mind, so I emailed them the pictures and told them to look at their deck plans.

 

This resulted in an offer of a plate of chocolate covered strawberries as compensation, you can take a guess at what I said to that.

 

As I am very much the type of person that just says "F this" and spends his money elsewhere I figured CCL had seen the last of me.

 

However a very nice lady called Anita Dunham-Potter found out about all this somehow, she works for MSNBC, she interviewed my wife and then talked to CCL, funnily enough a much fairer compensation package was offered and accepted, with the condition that the deck plans were changed to show the stairway there.

 

The thing that bugged me then and will bug me about these cabins isn't so much the fact that they are wrong, it's the thought that at some point someone is going to book the cabin who has spent a lot of time saving their hard earned money to take a dream cruise and they end up with something they should never have been sold. More so in the case of the Cat 11's on the Spirit class where there is a huge different in cost between a balcony cabin and a suite.

 

Ok off my soap box now :D

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

It wouldn't be the first time the deck plans have not matched what was actually there, before we really got into CC we went on a cruise on the Legend, when we booked the cabin we did a 3-way call with our TA and the CCL rep, we picked out 4226, a CAT 11 suite.

 

Of course 5 minutes of searching on here would of told us that that is not the one to go for as there is a stairway that cuts right by the bedroom window AND removes 2/3 of the balcony.

 

Needless to say that we were more than a little shocked to find our balcony missing, a quick phone call to our TA resulted in CCL saying there wasn't a stairways there (so I am blind), however there was a 12 open, but I had to go to the pursers desk to pay them the difference to move.

 

Well I guess in the time that it took me to get from the cabin to the desk it had been sold :(, however the amusing thing to me was, they denied there was a stairway there as well.

 

Well we were ready to walk off the ship, but friends from Europe had flown in to cruise with us, so we were kind of stuck.

 

We woke up to a person looking through the curtains at us (have the picture) and it became a very frequent thing for people to knock on the window as they climbed the stairs, very annoying.

 

I called CCL when we returned, of course there was no stairway in their mind, so I emailed them the pictures and told them to look at their deck plans.

 

This resulted in an offer of a plate of chocolate covered strawberries as compensation, you can take a guess at what I said to that.

 

As I am very much the type of person that just says "F this" and spends his money elsewhere I figured CCL had seen the last of me.

 

However a very nice lady called Anita Dunham-Potter found out about all this somehow, she works for MSNBC, she interviewed my wife and then talked to CCL, funnily enough a much fairer compensation package was offered and accepted, with the condition that the deck plans were changed to show the stairway there.

 

The thing that bugged me then and will bug me about these cabins isn't so much the fact that they are wrong, it's the thought that at some point someone is going to book the cabin who has spent a lot of time saving their hard earned money to take a dream cruise and they end up with something they should never have been sold. More so in the case of the Cat 11's on the Spirit class where there is a huge different in cost between a balcony cabin and a suite.

 

Ok off my soap box now :D

 

AH YES... the "famous" 4226 and 4235 cabins! :eek:

 

Yep - I've read a few reviews by people who were on the receiving end of that surprise. There is NO WAY that they should sell those as suites - interior space wise, yes - but based on the balcony (which is SMALLER than a Cat 8) no. They should go ahead and list them as 9's or else make a new category and call them a 10! If they are going to offer them as suites, they should make a notation like some of the Cat 11 cabins on Fantasy class ships have - but instead of "Obstructed View" they should say something like small or reduced size balcony and give the sq footage. Even then, you would have some TA's who fail (either intentionally and not) to properly inform people!

 

(Not to worry about the soapbox --- I use one from time to time as well!)

 

Tom

Edited September 29, 2009 by Tom-n-Cheryl