Have YOU been accosted by the fashion police? We were

[peaches from georgia]

Tafky- when you come home from your cruise please post here and tell us how it went. I'm sure you will be laughing at all your pre-cruise worries. It is only here on the board that this is such an issue. On the ship you will see a little bit of everything on formal night and I pretty much can guarantee that no one will say a word to you no matter what you wear (aside from the maitre d' possibly if you wear shorts and a tank shirt to the MDR, but even that is not guaranteed).

[travelmatron]

Really, do NOT fear formal night. It's just not that hard. In the dining room men will be wearing everything from sport coats to tuxedos, with most men wearing dark suits. Women wear everything from 'nice' pant suits to gowns, but cocktail or 'church' dresses are the most common. If that's too formal for you just eat in the lido or order room service and everybody's happy.

Most people who dress stay dressed for the rest of the evening. If you go to the shows or lounges in shorts, t-shirts, and flip flops (unless you are extremely self confident), you'll probably feel underdressed. Clean slacks and a shirt/blouse would get you by in Alaska.

Someone else mentioned it was like attending a wedding. Pretty similar. We were at a family wedding last week and there was only one person attending in shorts, and running shoes...and while others probably noticed, I doubt if anyone mentioned it, and I think he had a good time anyway.

[Tafky]

Really, do NOT fear formal night. It's just not that hard. In the dining room men will be wearing everything from sport coats to tuxedos, with most men wearing dark suits. Women wear everything from 'nice' pant suits to gowns, but cocktail or 'church' dresses are the most common. If that's too formal for you just eat in the lido or order room service and everybody's happy.

 

Most people who dress stay dressed for the rest of the evening. If you go to the shows or lounges in shorts, t-shirts, and flip flops (unless you are extremely self confident), you'll probably feel underdressed. Clean slacks and a shirt/blouse would get you by in Alaska.

 

Someone else mentioned it was like attending a wedding. Pretty similar. We were at a family wedding last week and there was only one person attending in shorts, and running shoes...and while others probably noticed, I doubt if anyone mentioned it, and I think he had a good time anyway.

Thanks

[Tafky]

Tafky- when you come home from your cruise please post here and tell us how it went. I'm sure you will be laughing at all your pre-cruise worries. It is only here on the board that this is such an issue. On the ship you will see a little bit of everything on formal night and I pretty much can guarantee that no one will say a word to you no matter what you wear (aside from the maitre d' possibly if you wear shorts and a tank shirt to the MDR, but even that is not guaranteed).

We do know better than that. Thanks for the info. :)

[TedC]

Where are the "fashion police" when folks wander into the Neptune Lounge in bathrobes? UGH

[simplelife]

In the South we would say one of two things:

To ourselves, "they just were'nt raised right".

To them: "Well, bless your heart!" in a syrupy sweet voice!

 

:cool:

Those of us "Suthun" ladies over 50 can add a well-inflected "Honey" to that "Bless your heart".:D

[simplelife]

I always liked Ann Landers suggested response to catty, tacky, inappropriate comments. "I can't believe that anyone would make that remark!" It has two points, first that the comment is inappropriate, second that it is unacceptable.

Former First lady Barbara Bush once said to a reporter who asked her an intrusive question about her family "I'm embarrased for you that you asked that."

[young at heart]

I would haved asked to see their badge:D

[Copper10-8]

I would haved asked to see their badge:D

 

Baadges?:cool:

 

[jcrandle]

DW's favorite story is about four high school chums who meet after 10 years for a reunion. The first one states that on her tenth wedding anniversary her husband presented her with a new Mercedes Benz. One of the ladies responded, "Ain't that nice."

 

The second classmate announced that on her tenth, her husband had given her a 4 carat diamond tennis bracelet. The same lady said, "Ain't that nice."

 

The third disclosed that her husband had given her an around the world cruise for the occasion. Again the same response, "Ain't that nice."

 

The trio turned to the forth, and asked, "What did your husband give you for your anniversary?"

 

"Well", she replied, "He knew that I was a little coarse, so he gave me a class on etiquette."

 

"And what did they teach you?"

 

"To just say 'Ain't that nice.' "

 

"And what did you used to say?"

 

"Who gives a ****!"

[toyotaford]

This thread caught my eye and I have enjoyed reading it. My husband and I own two car dealerships and we have taken our employees on cruises for the last 6 years. All of the cruises have been with Carnival except our Alaskan cruise which we took with HAL. Since it was our first trip with HAL I addressed the dining attire issue with my TA in an email and he assured me slacks and shirts would be acceptable for men in the main dining rooms. Welll,,,, the first formal night we were seated at our table with our employees and their spouses. No one was in jeans or shorts but no one had on coats. A group of people in tuxs passed our table and one of them looked and us and said "They must be from Tennessee." (Which we aren't, we are from Louisiana, probably even more laid back then Tennessee.) We just laughed at the comment. A few minutes later the maitre'd came to our table and told us our dress was not acceptable. I apparently gave him a look that got my message across because we were served and finished our meal. When we got to our room that night I called the front desk and told them I was an extremely unhappy cruiser and needed to have a meeting the next morning with someone that could make me happy. So, I met with someone the next morning and started by telling how much I was spending to bring 80 employees on their ship, all in balcony rooms, not to mention what my employees were spending on drinks and the casino. I told them I had addressed the dress issue before sailing with my TA and if he had in fact not checked with them that would be between me and him. I was returning to their ship in two weeks with the other half of our employees and wanted all issues resolved before we returned. They were so apologetic. I received letters of apology from several people, I received food in the room, we were treated fine the rest of the trip. We did return two weeks later with the second group of employees and were seated each night in the dining room with no problem. In hind sight my guess is that the people who thought we were from Tennessee probably complained and the maitre'd felt compelled to do something about it. I felt he should have addressed it with me, as host of the group, privately, and not embarrassed my guest. I think once the ship staff realized the amount of money I was spending with them and the amount the people doing the complaining was spending they decided to let the money do the talking. We have not sailed with HAL since bringing our groups to Alaska and do not have any plans on doing so. We felt overall it was a stuffy, uppity ship. We have taken several more on Carnival and next year will be going to Hawaii with our employees on Norwegian.

[TracieABD]

This thread caught my eye and I have enjoyed reading it. My husband and I own two car dealerships and we have taken our employees on cruises for the last 6 years. All of the cruises have been with Carnival except our Alaskan cruise which we took with HAL. Since it was our first trip with HAL I addressed the dining attire issue with my TA in an email and he assured me slacks and shirts would be acceptable for men in the main dining rooms. Welll,,,, the first formal night we were seated at our table with our employees and their spouses. No one was in jeans or shorts but no one had on coats. A group of people in tuxs passed our table and one of them looked and us and said "They must be from Tennessee." (Which we aren't, we are from Louisiana, probably even more laid back then Tennessee.) We just laughed at the comment. A few minutes later the maitre'd came to our table and told us our dress was not acceptable. I apparently gave him a look that got my message across because we were served and finished our meal. When we got to our room that night I called the front desk and told them I was an extremely unhappy cruiser and needed to have a meeting the next morning with someone that could make me happy. So, I met with someone the next morning and started by telling how much I was spending to bring 80 employees on their ship, all in balcony rooms, not to mention what my employees were spending on drinks and the casino. I told them I had addressed the dress issue before sailing with my TA and if he had in fact not checked with them that would be between me and him. I was returning to their ship in two weeks with the other half of our employees and wanted all issues resolved before we returned. They were so apologetic. I received letters of apology from several people, I received food in the room, we were treated fine the rest of the trip. We did return two weeks later with the second group of employees and were seated each night in the dining room with no problem. In hind sight my guess is that the people who thought we were from Tennessee probably complained and the maitre'd felt compelled to do something about it. I felt he should have addressed it with me, as host of the group, privately, and not embarrassed my guest. I think once the ship staff realized the amount of money I was spending with them and the amount the people doing the complaining was spending they decided to let the money do the talking. We have not sailed with HAL since bringing our groups to Alaska and do not have any plans on doing so. We felt overall it was a stuffy, uppity ship. We have taken several more on Carnival and next year will be going to Hawaii with our employees on Norwegian.

Hi Toyotaford-

Welcome to the CC Boards!

 

Can I have a job? Please?

:p,

Tracie-Lynn

[bobalink]

In the South we would say one of two things:

To ourselves, "they just were'nt raised right".

To them: "Well, bless your heart!" in a syrupy sweet voice!

 

:cool:

 

When I first read this thread it had me concerned about our upcoming cruise. Not because I fear being criticized. I know that won't happen, because I dress appropriately for any occasion. I am just a little concerned that the "vibe" on HAL may not be as fun as what we have experienced on Princess.

 

I have to admit, this thread has been entertaining, too.

 

Seriously, can you just visualize what the "fashion police" look like? In my mind, I can only imagine a frumpy, bitter and insecure person.

 

Several posters have commented on the "southern response", so how about this one... Kiss my grits.

[grandgeezer]

The amount of money you spent should have absolutely nothing to do with inforcement of the dress code. The dress code applies to everyone, from the person in an inside cabin, to the person in the Presidential Suite, and yes to you, the person paying for a whole group. It never ceases to amaze me at the number of people who think, due to wealth or whatever, they are above everyone else and can do as they please.

[CaveDiving]

Welll,,,, the first formal night we were seated at our table with our employees and their spouses. No one was in jeans or shorts but no one had on coats. A group of people in tuxs passed our table and one of them looked and us and said "They must be from Tennessee." (Which we aren't, we are from Louisiana, probably even more laid back then Tennessee.) We just laughed at the comment. A few minutes later the maitre'd came to our table and told us our dress was not acceptable. I apparently gave him a look that got my message across because we were served and finished our meal. When we got to our room that night I called the front desk and told them I was an extremely unhappy cruiser and needed to have a meeting the next morning with someone that could make me happy. So, I met with someone the next morning and started by telling how much I was spending to bring 80 employees on their ship, all in balcony rooms, not to mention what my employees were spending on drinks and the casino. I told them I had addressed the dress issue before sailing with my TA and if he had in fact not checked with them that would be between me and him. I was returning to their ship in two weeks with the other half of our employees and wanted all issues resolved before we returned.

 

Hello Toyotaford,

 

I was not on your cruise but if i were, and a whole group of people insisted dining in the main dining room on a formal night without so much as sport coats on, you can bet I would have said something. My comment would probably have been to the effect of "Didn't you bother to learn about the dress code on this ship. On formal nights gentlemen are expected to wear coats and ties at a minimum." And my comments would not have been spoken softly.

 

The fact that you demanded an apology after it was clearly explained to you that you did not meet the dress code, simply because you were spending a bunch of money, really puts you in the class of what is commonly referred to as the Ugly American. I believe YOU ought to have apologized to the maitre'd. And I can assure you that I have spent considerably more on sailing with Holland America than your two short cruises.

 

Obviously your TA gave you the incorrect information and you were blaming the staff on the ship instead of accepting that fact.

 

You really ought to be ashamed of yourself instead of being self satisfied.

 

Scott & Karen

[mudscraper]

Where can one purchase a blue tuxedo? Thanks in advance.

 

 

Rich

[RichNY]

Where can one purchase a blue tuxedo? Thanks in advance.

 

 

Rich

 

 

Try here....:D A tux is a tux is a tux..I'm sure the fashion police will have something to say about this too...:D:D

 

 

http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&q=blue+tuxedo+costume&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=vbEUTIznB4aglAebwJSeDA&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CEEQrQQwAw

[RichNY]

This thread caught my eye and I have enjoyed reading it. My husband and I own two car dealerships and we have taken our employees on cruises for the last 6 years. All of the cruises have been with Carnival except our Alaskan cruise which we took with HAL. Since it was our first trip with HAL I addressed the dining attire issue with my TA in an email and he assured me slacks and shirts would be acceptable for men in the main dining rooms. Welll,,,, the first formal night we were seated at our table with our employees and their spouses. No one was in jeans or shorts but no one had on coats. A group of people in tuxs passed our table and one of them looked and us and said "They must be from Tennessee." (Which we aren't, we are from Louisiana, probably even more laid back then Tennessee.) We just laughed at the comment. A few minutes later the maitre'd came to our table and told us our dress was not acceptable. I apparently gave him a look that got my message across because we were served and finished our meal. When we got to our room that night I called the front desk and told them I was an extremely unhappy cruiser and needed to have a meeting the next morning with someone that could make me happy. So, I met with someone the next morning and started by telling how much I was spending to bring 80 employees on their ship, all in balcony rooms, not to mention what my employees were spending on drinks and the casino. I told them I had addressed the dress issue before sailing with my TA and if he had in fact not checked with them that would be between me and him. I was returning to their ship in two weeks with the other half of our employees and wanted all issues resolved before we returned. They were so apologetic. I received letters of apology from several people, I received food in the room, we were treated fine the rest of the trip. We did return two weeks later with the second group of employees and were seated each night in the dining room with no problem. In hind sight my guess is that the people who thought we were from Tennessee probably complained and the maitre'd felt compelled to do something about it. I felt he should have addressed it with me, as host of the group, privately, and not embarrassed my guest. I think once the ship staff realized the amount of money I was spending with them and the amount the people doing the complaining was spending they decided to let the money do the talking. We have not sailed with HAL since bringing our groups to Alaska and do not have any plans on doing so. We felt overall it was a stuffy, uppity ship. We have taken several more on Carnival and next year will be going to Hawaii with our employees on Norwegian.

 

Good for you...Spend your money on a line where you don't have to contend with rude passengers who think it's their place to comment on the attire of others...I'm sure your employees will be a happier too...:D

[geocruiser]

toyotaford,

 

When you returned in two weeks with your other group, did you dress to code? After all by then you knew what the code was.

 

Geo

[jessemon]

 

She was wearing a skirt and glittery top.

I would have commented to her "How much and where":D:eek:;)

It is funny though how many people give you the eye who are going to early seatings not thinking that many of us dine at late seating......

[sparky-elpaso]

When I first read this thread it had me concerned about our upcoming cruise. Not because I fear being criticized. I know that won't happen, because I dress appropriately for any occasion. I am just a little concerned that the "vibe" on HAL may not be as fun as what we have experienced on Princess.

 

I have to admit, this thread has been entertaining, too.

 

Seriously, can you just visualize what the "fashion police" look like? In my mind, I can only imagine a frumpy, bitter and insecure person.

 

Several posters have commented on the "southern response", so how about this one... Kiss my grits.

 

My southern (Tennessee) grandfather used to say "kiss my foot" if someone was rude.

[RichNY]

When I first read this thread it had me concerned about our upcoming cruise. Not because I fear being criticized. I know that won't happen, because I dress appropriately for any occasion. I am just a little concerned that the "vibe" on HAL may not be as fun as what we have experienced on Princess.

 

I have to admit, this thread has been entertaining, too.

 

Seriously, can you just visualize what the "fashion police" look like? In my mind, I can only imagine a frumpy, bitter and insecure person.

 

Several posters have commented on the "southern response", so how about this one... Kiss my grits.

 

 

Actually some of those rude, condescending, confrontational folks have actually posted their pictures...you might be right...:D

 

Its a sad day then passengers think they have the right duty and obligation to confront other passengers about their attire..:(

[mafig]

I would be angry with my TA for giving me that incorrect information. I guess say anything to get a large booking. The TA told you what you wanted to hear.

[mudscraper]

Actually some of those rude, condescending, confrontational folks have actually posted their pictures...you might be right...:D

 

Its a sad day then passengers think they have the right duty and obligation to confront other passengers about their attire..:(

That`s where I got the blue tux idea. From CC fashion police pics. I just assumed I was out of touch with current male fashion trends. I`m glad that black tuxes are still in vogue.

 

 

Rich ( In Sartorial Splendor)

[RevNeal]

That`s where I got the blue tux idea. From CC fashion police pics.

 

I've not seen photos of CCers in blue Tuxedos. Black Tuxedos and White Dinner Jackets, yes, but not Blue Tuxedos (ala 1970s).

 

I`m glad that black tuxes are still in vogue.

 

Ditto