Cunard Rules Posted October 9, 2012 #1 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I have been reading a couple of threads that the Planetarium on QM2 has been out of order for a couple of months. Does anyone know if has been fixed or if there are plans to fix it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funinhounslow Posted October 9, 2012 #2 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I'm on the QM now :D The planetarium is still out of order, according to the daily programme for "long term maintenance" suggesting the closure is only temporary. No word of when it will be up and running though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moniquet Posted October 9, 2012 #3 Share Posted October 9, 2012 About time they sorted all those broken seats, even more so the programmes. They should put it out of it's mysery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunard Rules Posted October 9, 2012 Author #4 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Thanks Moniquet and Funinhounslow for the quick reply. If you find anything else out can you post it here? Thanks I was on the QM2 in June and the Planetarium was out of order then and as I am due back on board again next month for 2 weeks, I was curious as to whether it had been fixed. Obviously not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotong Posted October 9, 2012 #5 Share Posted October 9, 2012 We were on QM2 after the refit in December 2011 and it wasn't working then. Has it been out of order since then? Not very temporary?! Gillian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray66 Posted October 9, 2012 #6 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I'm on the QM now :D What time are you leaving Southampton? As of 7.16pm the webcam still shows you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray66 Posted October 9, 2012 #7 Share Posted October 9, 2012 What time are you leaving Southampton? As of 7.16pm the webcam still shows you there. Looks like you're leaving as of 7.35pm. Was there a delay or was that your scheduled time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted October 9, 2012 #8 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I am very pleased that we got to experience the Planetarium in 2010 - it wasn't working during our short voyage this year in June. I thought that it was excellent. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansol1966 Posted October 9, 2012 #9 Share Posted October 9, 2012 The Planeterium was working late May 2012 when we took our sons and girlfriends on a mini cruise Hamburg to Southampton (great trip) and there favourite part of the cruise was (apart from room service) was the planeterium. I agree the broken seats are an embarrassment for the ship and hopefully the ongoing works will rectify this. If Cunard wants repeat customers then onboard entertainment must be refreshed regularly (planetarium) as these shows are years old...good the first few times but need to be updated... yearly...biannually? just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oahucruiser Posted October 9, 2012 #10 Share Posted October 9, 2012 It was working in July when our family sailed. It was the grandkids favorite thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
violetta58 Posted October 9, 2012 #11 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Just returned today from USA/Canada voyage and for the 25 days we were on board the planetarium was not working due to long term maintenance.We were told its a problem with the dome that drops down.It was a shame although there were so many good lecturers and films in Illuminations we did not miss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retafcruiser Posted October 9, 2012 #12 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I have been reading a couple of threads that the Planetarium on QM2 has been out of order for a couple of months. Does anyone know if has been fixed or if there are plans to fix it? Sadly, I think this but one example that the QM2 is far too costly for Carnival to maintain. When a ship is dry-docked and many deficiencies are not addressed, it is a sure sign of cost cutting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balf Posted October 10, 2012 #13 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Sadly, I think this but one example that the QM2 is far too costly for Carnival to maintain. When a ship is dry-docked and many deficiencies are not addressed, it is a sure sign of cost cutting. Spot on, I was very surprised to find the same weary Planetarium after the refit. I have thought of QM2 for some time as the Cunard cash cow and while they can continue to fill her this will not change. Standards are so much higher on the other two newer ships. David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare eroller Posted October 10, 2012 #14 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Deferred maintenance is for companies that are failing and in financial dire straights. This is not the case for Carnival Corp. so I don't see any reason why the Planetarium is not repaired and kept in working order, along with the rest of the ship. When Carnival Corp. built QM2 it was a great undertaking, and no doubt they realized that maintenance and upkeep would be substantially more than an average cruise ship just by nature of the ship itself and her itineraries. Don't build it if you don't plan to follow through with the maintenance. This being said I have not personally experienced anything on QM2 that I would consider deferred maintenance, which is why the Planetarium being out of order for "long term" is little surprising and disappointing. Cunard likes to use the Planetarium in advertising materials all the time as an activity on crossings and a prominent feature of QM2. The least they could do is live up to their advertising and have it in working order. I do understand it's a mechanical device and these things can break down, but I don't see any reason for it to be out of service "long term", unless Carnival/Cunard just doesn't want to spend the $$ to fix it. It is close to the end of the year and perhaps they are attempting to remain within or below budget? If that is the case it's hardly an excuse for the passengers paying to sail and looking forward to this feature. Ernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T5LHR Posted October 10, 2012 #15 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I was really looking forward to seeing the show... Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasidegal Posted October 11, 2012 #16 Share Posted October 11, 2012 I was really looking forward to seeing the show... Oh well. We were, too. It was a special memory from our first Queen Mary2 crossing. It is a shame that it hasn't been kept in good working order. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylviaB Posted October 11, 2012 #17 Share Posted October 11, 2012 When we were on board last month we talked to one of the technicians about it. Turns out, it is not Cunard's fault that the planetarium is not in use. According to British health and safety regulations the planetarium needs to receive a major check up of the hydraulic system and it needs to be done by the company that installed the planetarium. Regular maintenance gets done by the ship's technicians who also ensure the hydraulics for the lifeboats is working properly. Unfortunately, the company that installed the planetarium is no longer in business so can't check the hydraulics and so it can't get the all clear for the health and safety certificate. The health and safety people won't accept a check by the the ship's technicians, so Cunard's had to find another company that makes planetariums. That company now needs to get approved by British health and safety to do the checks and the bureaucratic paperwork is taking forever. So despite the fact that it is technically in working order, they are not allowed to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitemarsh Posted October 11, 2012 #18 Share Posted October 11, 2012 When we were on board last month we talked to one of the technicians about it. Turns out, it is not Cunard's fault that the planetarium is not in use. According to British health and safety regulations the planetarium needs to receive a major check up of the hydraulic system and it needs to be done by the company that installed the planetarium. Regular maintenance gets done by the ship's technicians who also ensure the hydraulics for the lifeboats is working properly. Unfortunately, the company that installed the planetarium is no longer in business so can't check the hydraulics and so it can't get the all clear for the health and safety certificate. The health and safety people won't accept a check by the the ship's technicians, so Cunard's had to find another company that makes planetariums. That company now needs to get approved by British health and safety to do the checks and the bureaucratic paperwork is taking forever. So despite the fact that it is technically in working order, they are not allowed to use it. Thank you for updating us. It's good to hear that the problem is not related to cost cutting or low standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepperrn Posted October 11, 2012 #19 Share Posted October 11, 2012 When we were on board last month we talked to one of the technicians about it. Turns out, it is not Cunard's fault that the planetarium is not in use. According to British health and safety regulations the planetarium needs to receive a major check up of the hydraulic system and it needs to be done by the company that installed the planetarium. Regular maintenance gets done by the ship's technicians who also ensure the hydraulics for the lifeboats is working properly. Unfortunately, the company that installed the planetarium is no longer in business so can't check the hydraulics and so it can't get the all clear for the health and safety certificate. The health and safety people won't accept a check by the the ship's technicians, so Cunard's had to find another company that makes planetariums. That company now needs to get approved by British health and safety to do the checks and the bureaucratic paperwork is taking forever. So despite the fact that it is technically in working order, they are not allowed to use it.I've little doubt that this could be true, thank you for posting what seems a valid reason. 'elf and safety... as a friend said, I don't know whether to laugh or cry :confused: . My only question is (and I'm sure someone will know); what have British Health and Safety Regulations got to do with QM2? Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted October 11, 2012 #20 Share Posted October 11, 2012 The dome may be safe, but some of the seats aren't. Back in Feb, they were putting safety tape across the seats that reclined without warning if you leaned back the tiniest bit. I would have thought they'd have fixed that by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Avery Posted October 11, 2012 #21 Share Posted October 11, 2012 About time they sorted all those broken seats, even more so the programmes. They should put it out of it's mysery! Agreed. never did buy the Planetarium on a Ship thing in the first place.:eek: sort of like a rock climbing wall for tuxedoed sophisticates.:eek::D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepperrn Posted October 11, 2012 #22 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Agreed. never did buy the Planetarium on a Ship thing in the first place.:eek: sort of like a rock climbing wall for tuxedoed sophisticates.:eek::DThat is exactly how the idea was sold to Micky Arison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Avery Posted October 11, 2012 #23 Share Posted October 11, 2012 That is exactly how the idea was sold to Micky Arison. LOL!:D Right again Pepper.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted October 11, 2012 #24 Share Posted October 11, 2012 However, if the advertise it as one of the entertainment options on board it is their responsibility to keep it in working order. Many parents might book the QM2 solely for that experience for the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroExeter Posted October 11, 2012 #25 Share Posted October 11, 2012 As an astronomer I found the planetarium fascinating but they do need new programmes (when it works again). Probably the best use of it is when the RAS are onboard and use it to illustrate the night sky. I have helped to run the Stargazing nights on the QM2 and was amazed at how many people stayed up to take part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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