Deployment schedule: let the guessing begin!

[dancinman66]

Have you been told yet?

 

 

 

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Yep

I've told her many a time ey seija

 

Oops that's wrong. You've told me

Hehe

 

 

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[Aussie FF]

Hi Greg.

 

Sorry, you guys have lost me.:o

What Have I been told?

 

Edit: Do you mean what I think you mean?

Doesn't matter, I'll have another glass of wine:-)

Edited July 26, 2014 by Aussie FF

[Sat1]

NOT smart phones. In the U.S. usually can call 911 for help, will they do this on an excursion?

[springaussie]

Hi Greg.

 

Sorry, you guys have lost me.:o

What Have I been told?

 

Edit: Do you mean what I think you mean?

Doesn't matter, I'll have another glass of wine:-)

 

I thought you were talking about you were booked on the 4 night Voyager of the Seas cruise from Singapore 21 November 2014 that has now become a charter.

I was asking did you know before this forum that it had been changed?

Glen

[Aussie FF]

Hi Glen.

 

Thanks for the explanation. Yes, I've seen your previous posts about that.

BTW Thanks for all the good info you have provided in this thread and elsewhere.

We're on Voyager 25th November.:)

Edited July 27, 2014 by Aussie FF

[dancinman66]

I thought you were talking about you were booked on the 4 night Voyager of the Seas cruise from Singapore 21 November 2014 that has now become a charter.

 

I was asking did you know before this forum that it had been changed?

 

Glen

 

 

Hey seija

 

Just being cheeky

You bite too well

 

:)

 

 

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[MADflyer]

Asia New Network out of Hamburg has ran a piece originating from China Daily. The article concerns Carnival Corporation's rapid expansion in China since first arrival in 2006. While the Carnival information is clearly attributed to the Carnival CEO.

 

Carnival Corp & Plc Chief Executive Officer Arnold Donald told China Daily that China will become the dominant market despite the fact it is currently smaller than established markets such as North America and Europe.

 

The article closes with RCI related information:

 

Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd, the world's second-largest cruise company, operating six brands including Royal Caribbean International, Celebrity Cruises, and Pullmantur, entered the Chinese cruise market in 2008, providing cruises originating from Shanghai and Hong Kong.

 

In 2015, the company will introduce two ships from its Quantum class and Oasis class to increase its presence in China.

 

While the original China Daily article can be found online, I received a virus warning and did not want to put the link.

 

The Asia News Network article:

 

http://www.asianewsnet.net/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-largest-cruise-ma-63191.html

[springaussie]

Quantum of the Seas is doing a 3 night pre Trans Atlantic from Southampton 31 October 2014.

Hong Kong Cruise Ship Schedule shows Quantum of the Seas doing a 3 night cruise also 21 - 24 December 2015.

 

 

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Quantum of the Seas is doing a 3 night pre Trans Atlantic from Southampton 31 October 2014.

Hong Kong Cruise Ship Schedule shows Quantum of the Seas doing a 3 night cruise also 21 - 24 December 2015.

 

 

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Might be for press or loading up

 

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[FLACRUISER99]

Asia New Network out of Hamburg has ran a piece originating from China Daily. The article concerns Carnival Corporation's rapid expansion in China since first arrival in 2006. While the Carnival information is clearly attributed to the Carnival CEO.

 

Carnival Corp & Plc Chief Executive Officer Arnold Donald told China Daily that China will become the dominant market despite the fact it is currently smaller than established markets such as North America and Europe.

 

The article closes with RCI related information:

 

Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd, the world's second-largest cruise company, operating six brands including Royal Caribbean International, Celebrity Cruises, and Pullmantur, entered the Chinese cruise market in 2008, providing cruises originating from Shanghai and Hong Kong.

 

In 2015, the company will introduce two ships from its Quantum class and Oasis class to increase its presence in China.

 

While the original China Daily article can be found online, I received a virus warning and did not want to put the link.

 

The Asia News Network article:

 

http://www.asianewsnet.net/China-on-course-to-become-worlds-largest-cruise-ma-63191.html

Since Oasis III is not scheduled to be launched until Mid 2016 I highly suspect the 2015 introduction of an Oasis class ship.

[MADflyer]

Quantum of the Seas is doing a 3 night pre Trans Atlantic from Southampton 31 October 2014.

Hong Kong Cruise Ship Schedule shows Quantum of the Seas doing a 3 night cruise also 21 - 24 December 2015.

 

 

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Small detail, but it is a 2 night. It was on the Southampton schedule a year ago and then they took it off later.

 

The Irish Travel Agent Association announced a few months ago that they had scheduled their annual conference onboard that sailing. The conference was fully booked in two days time, the fastest sign-up they had ever experienced for one of their sailings.

 

Key accounts in Europe were only given one cabin for a FAM trip on this Quantum sailing per blog posts a few months ago.

 

Press, of course, never talk about their 'junkets' as in many cultures it is considered a conflict of interest to get 'freebies'

[MADflyer]

Since Oasis III is not scheduled to be launched until Mid 2016 I highly suspect the 2015 introduction of an Oasis class ship.

 

That is most definitely the case. Interesting that it made it into the China Daily though, none the less, and must have come from somewhere.

 

China Daily is internationally distributed and I read it often when passing through airport lounges. The journalist who wrote the article has interviewed some key players in the cruise industry, but did not reference where this information was coming from.

[springaussie]

Confirmation that Mariner of the Seas will be in Singapore for the Northern Winter 15/16.

 

SINGAPORE – Royal Caribbean International has unveiled the details of its new Singapore season for Legend of the Seas in 2015, which offers a series of scenic itineraries to a rich variety of destinations in Asia from June to November.

 

The 2,074-guest Legend of the Seas which homeported in Singapore from 2008 to 2013, will return here on June 25, 2015, sailing a variety of three- to 10-night itineraries to attractive exotic destinations throughout Malaysia, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Brunei, the Philippines, Hong Kong and Taiwan till November, as follows:

 

•A 3-night cruise during the June school holidays that will call at Penang and Kuala Lumpur (Port Klang)

•A 3-night cruise and 5-night cruise over the September school holidays that visit Penang, Kuala Lumpur (Port Klang), Bangkok (Laem Chabang) and Ko Samui

•Two 10-night cruises to Ko Samui, Bangkok (Laem Chabang) (overnight), Sihanoukville, Nha Trang and Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My)

•Three 10-night one-way cruises to Ko Samui, Bangkok (Laem Chabang), Sihanoukville, Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My), Nha Trang, Hue/Danang (Chan May) and Hong Kong

•Two 10-night one-way cruises from Hong Kong to Taipei (Keelung), Manila, Boracay, Puerto Princesa, Kota Kinabalu. Bandar Seri Begawan (Muara) and Singapore.

Vacationers also can choose among two consecutive 14-night itineraries in September, a southbound sailing from Singapore to Perth (Fremantle), Australia that will call at Kuala Lumpur (Port Klang), Langkawi, Phuket, Bali (Benoa), Lombok, Broome and Geraldton, followed by a northbound return to Singapore with the same ports-of-call.

 

With her sister ship Mariner of the Seas also sailing from Singapore in the winter season of 2015/16, Legend of the Seas’ new season will mark the first time that the cruise line will offer year-round sailings from Singapore.

 

http://www.traveldailynews.asia/news/article/56426/royal-caribbean-international-unveils-legend

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Confirmation that Mariner of the Seas will be in Singapore for the Northern Winter 15/16.

 

SINGAPORE – Royal Caribbean International has unveiled the details of its new Singapore season for Legend of the Seas in 2015, which offers a series of scenic itineraries to a rich variety of destinations in Asia from June to November.

 

The 2,074-guest Legend of the Seas which homeported in Singapore from 2008 to 2013, will return here on June 25, 2015, sailing a variety of three- to 10-night itineraries to attractive exotic destinations throughout Malaysia, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Brunei, the Philippines, Hong Kong and Taiwan till November, as follows:

 

•A 3-night cruise during the June school holidays that will call at Penang and Kuala Lumpur (Port Klang)

•A 3-night cruise and 5-night cruise over the September school holidays that visit Penang, Kuala Lumpur (Port Klang), Bangkok (Laem Chabang) and Ko Samui

•Two 10-night cruises to Ko Samui, Bangkok (Laem Chabang) (overnight), Sihanoukville, Nha Trang and Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My)

•Three 10-night one-way cruises to Ko Samui, Bangkok (Laem Chabang), Sihanoukville, Ho Chi Minh City (Phu My), Nha Trang, Hue/Danang (Chan May) and Hong Kong

•Two 10-night one-way cruises from Hong Kong to Taipei (Keelung), Manila, Boracay, Puerto Princesa, Kota Kinabalu. Bandar Seri Begawan (Muara) and Singapore.

Vacationers also can choose among two consecutive 14-night itineraries in September, a southbound sailing from Singapore to Perth (Fremantle), Australia that will call at Kuala Lumpur (Port Klang), Langkawi, Phuket, Bali (Benoa), Lombok, Broome and Geraldton, followed by a northbound return to Singapore with the same ports-of-call.

 

With her sister ship Mariner of the Seas also sailing from Singapore in the winter season of 2015/16, Legend of the Seas’ new season will mark the first time that the cruise line will offer year-round sailings from Singapore.

 

http://www.traveldailynews.asia/news/article/56426/royal-caribbean-international-unveils-legend

 

Cheers for that. Looks like China is the place to go. Wonder how long it will last. The economy there has to take a dip sooner or later

[geoff2802]

Cheers for that. Looks like China is the place to go. Wonder how long it will last. The economy there has to take a dip sooner or later

 

 

It's already happening. The property and construction booms in China are unwinding now, evidenced by falling prices and falling sales of residential property there. Cruise lines are flooding that market with capacity right at the time when a downtrun coming. Might lead to some bargains next year or some capacity being diverted to other areas. Bring Quantum to Australia!

 

 

 

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[Clarea]

It's already happening. The property and construction booms in China are unwinding now, evidenced by falling prices and falling sales of residential property there. Cruise lines are flooding that market with capacity right at the time when a downtrun coming. Might lead to some bargains next year or some capacity being diverted to other areas. Bring Quantum to Australia!

I'd gladly trade you Quantum if you give back Voyager and Mariner!:D

[geoff2802]

I'd gladly trade you Quantum if you give back Voyager and Mariner!:D

 

 

Deal! :). I don't think Mariner was coming to Australia (we have Explorer for the southern summer 15/16 though).

 

 

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[dancinman66]

Thing is that the downturn in china won't directly affect these ships now as these are being mostly fully chartered

 

There seems to be a huge glut in cruise availability for the Chinese who are huge in number and therefore will take a long time for the supply to catch up

A lot of boats yes but lots of people

 

 

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[geoff2802]

Thing is that the downturn in china won't directly affect these ships now as these are being mostly fully chartered

 

There seems to be a huge glut in cruise availability for the Chinese who are huge in number and therefore will take a long time for the supply to catch up

A lot of boats yes but lots of people

 

 

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Yes, but only a small portion of them are able to afford a cruise. If the charter operator can't sell the cabins they will be heavily discounted. Non-Chinese probably would not benefit from the lower prices though, given that they are (apparently) running them as Chinese language only.

I think the cruise industry, like many mainstream analysts, has misread the Chinese economy. The iron ore price and Macau gambling revenues are other indicators that the party is coming to an end.

 

 

 

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[ahecht]

I think the cruise industry, like many mainstream analysts, has misread the Chinese economy. The iron ore price and Macau gambling revenues are other indicators that the party is coming to an end.

 

Good thing that cruise ships, unlike land resorts, are easy to redeploy elsewhere.

[Topo Gigio]

Yes, but only a small portion of them are able to afford a cruise. If the charter operator can't sell the cabins they will be heavily discounted. Non-Chinese probably would not benefit from the lower prices though, given that they are (apparently) running them as Chinese language only.

I think the cruise industry, like many mainstream analysts, has misread the Chinese economy. The iron ore price and Macau gambling revenues are other indicators that the party is coming to an end.

 

 

 

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I think it doesn't matter that much for Royal Caribbean if the prices are dropped, since they get a fixed price for the charter and it's the tour operators business to fill the ship, and eventually to make money. Besides that they will make profit big time from the casino.

[dancinman66]

I think it doesn't matter that much for Royal Caribbean if the prices are dropped, since they get a fixed price for the charter and it's the tour operators business to fill the ship, and eventually to make money. Besides that they will make profit big time from the casino.

 

 

So true it is their dollar they bank on

But don't think really will affect the cruises as still an under supply for demand there

 

 

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[ckfred]

I got a survey from RC, asking me how I liked the ports on my Eastern Caribbean cruise on the Freedom.

 

Then, it asked me to pick three destinations. So, I did Alaska, western Europe, and northern Europe.

 

The survey wanted me to rate various ports on a scale to 1 to 10. For Europe, besides some of the current ports, it had ports from when RC used to send a Vision-class ship around the British Isles.

 

Needless to say, I gave every port in the U.K. and Ireland a 10.

 

Is it safe to assume that RC is considering cruises for the British Isles in the summer of 2016? If RC does return to the British Isles, I would seriously consder cancelling my cruise out of Copenhagen to Norway in August of 2015, simply because Great Britain and Ireland are much higher on my to-do list than Norway and Denmark.

[Dave85]

I got a survey from RC, asking me how I liked the ports on my Eastern Caribbean cruise on the Freedom.

 

 

 

Then, it asked me to pick three destinations. So, I did Alaska, western Europe, and northern Europe.

 

 

 

The survey wanted me to rate various ports on a scale to 1 to 10. For Europe, besides some of the current ports, it had ports from when RC used to send a Vision-class ship around the British Isles.

 

 

 

Needless to say, I gave every port in the U.K. and Ireland a 10.

 

 

 

Is it safe to assume that RC is considering cruises for the British Isles in the summer of 2016? If RC does return to the British Isles, I would seriously consder cancelling my cruise out of Copenhagen to Norway in August of 2015, simply because Great Britain and Ireland are much higher on my to-do list than Norway and Denmark.

 

 

I received that survey as well regarding my last cruise on Allure. I think they're constantly evaluating new ports of call, or resuming calls to places they used to go, especially as they expand the fleet. I don't think that indicates that any of these particular expansions are imminent though... There were just so many options on that survey.

 

 

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[tm3750]

If the Freedom and Enchantment leave Port Canaveral any idea what ships might replace them?