Carnival Cruise Lines To Ban Smoking on Cruise Ship Balconies

[adaptabl]

People have mentioned taking pictures from balcony to balcony, but truly, how legal is it? One person is invading another's space taking an unauthorized picture. I'm not talking about snapping a picture when someone is out in a common area, but if in your private space.

 

Your balcony is not a private space. There are already cameras everywhere. I would have no issue snapping a picture and turning in someone who was endangering the ship or my health and others. I have seen someone get put off the ship for smoking in their room and I hope they would do the same for smoking on the balcony once the rules change.

[MizzCard]

Was the ban on eCig confirmed? I didn't see John H. answer that question on the FB page. If eCig is banned for balconies as well - I guess it will be bye bye Carnival. Other lines ban smoking but allow eCigs on balconies so guess we will just go that direction - or look for alternative vacation ideas (all inclusive, river cruises, etc.)

 

It is what it is I guess - there are a lot of vacation options out there - so, not really going to worry about it. Will just find the best option for our needs. :D

 

Seriously....how will they know if you have an eCig? Those who vape knows there is no odor...so??

[rebfan831]

Your friend must be a poor business man. It has been proven that sales increase or have no effect a year after the smoking ban. I am sure Carnival will see no effects in the long term. Smokes can cry and complain but in the end business does not change.

 

Actually, they are pretty good business folks. They own a pizza parlor and a hardware store. Both are doing quite well as was the bar before the law was changed. When smoking was allowed the place was pretty busy most nights. Now it isn't unusual for my friend & I to stop in on a weeknight and be the only ones there.

 

Statistics are all well and good if you are writing a report but real life trumps them. Unless of course you are a non-smoker and then your way is always right. :cool:

 

Jean

[idiebabe]

Your balcony is not a private space. There are already cameras everywhere. I would have no issue snapping a picture and turning in someone who was endangering the ship or my health and others. I have seen someone get put off the ship for smoking in their room and I hope they would do the same for smoking on the balcony once the rules change.

 

You better be careful your camera doesn't end up overboard! You never know who you maybe messing with! :eek:

 

What Ship was it that someone was put off for smoking in their room? I was on the Pride a year ago and nothing was done Onboard about a couple of men who cursed out the Bartender in the Atrium Bar, hit on young girls, got banned from the MDR and escorted out due to starting a fight with the table next to them and threatening to kill a Woman passenger in the hallway. They did not put them off the Ship although they kept Security very busy throughout the week! However, they were arrested once back in Baltimore and the family was overheard saying they were banned from future cruises.

 

So put off for smoking? Interesting!

[babyher]

Your balcony is not a private space. There are already cameras everywhere. I would have no issue snapping a picture and turning in someone who was endangering the ship or my health and others. I have seen someone get put off the ship for smoking in their room and I hope they would do the same for smoking on the balcony once the rules change.

 

 

A couple years ago a neighbor of mine (That neighbor everyone on the block has a problem with ) took some pictures of me working on cars in my driveway and sent it to the town with a complaint that I was running a mechanic business in a residential zone . I am handy with cars and with 4 kids, a wife, a mother and assorted friends and family. I am always working on somebodies car. If I was running a business , I definitely would be a lousy businessman because I NEVER get paid *LOL*

 

When I realized it was this neighbor (the only way you could have taken those pictures from the angle they were taken was from their dining room window and/or deck, I mentioned it to the husband when I saw him outside. he was pretty full of himself admitting that his wife took the pictures and I had no business using the neighborhood as a garage .....yea ok the WHOLE neighbor consists of my garage and driveway.

 

So I mentioned to him how I have a pool in the backyard and at that time I had 4 pre teen and teenage children and they and their friends were always out there swimming. I just asked him if the picture taking thing extended to anything else , Hey who knows how some people get their kicks.

 

I thought he was going to have a stroke :). I am a 9-1-1 dispatcher , maybe he thought because I worked for the police I could make real trouble for him. Yeah don't I wish I had such powers , But....he didn't have to know that

 

I went in the house and told my wife what just went on, with a minute of telling her , you hear him screaming from his house to the wife asking her what the hell was wrong with her , and doesn't she know what kind of trouble you can get into , and stalking laws and all this .

 

He even told her she was wrong and I was just working on my own cars and she just made the complaint to make trouble because she doesn't like me. Her and I had words a few years before.

 

Man those 2 had a fight.

 

Never heard a peep out of either one of them until I moved a few years later.

 

So be careful with your picture taking

[RuthlessBoss]

Your balcony is not a private space. There are already cameras everywhere. I would have no issue snapping a picture and turning in someone who was endangering the ship or my health and others. I have seen someone get put off the ship for smoking in their room and I hope they would do the same for smoking on the balcony once the rules change.

 

If a balcony isn't a private space, why bother with the partitions between them?

As for cameras already in place, those cameras are not focused in on individual balconies, they are a general view of the sides of the ship.

[cruiser472]

My DW and I are both smokers. And yes, we book balconies so that we can smoke on cruises. We can see both sides of this issue. The question is, where do you draw that fine line between the sides. We discussed this and we feel that those cruise lines that ban smoking on all balconies might take in consideration how hotels handle this issue. First, hotels give you the option of booking a smoking or non smoking room and they seem to fill their rooms. We always book a non smoking room and even though we smoke, we sleep better. When we want to enjoy one, we step outside, usually close to the door, and lite up. How does this differ with a balcony. Could the cruise lines offer one side smoking balconies? Would that bring in everyone's wishes? Who knows. Very interesting reading.

[medic123]

Except for every other Carnival Corp brand....

 

Princess – Vaping permitted in the cabin and designated smoking areas, but not on the balcony

 

Seabourn - Vaping permitted in the cabin, in designated smoking areas, and on some ships, on the balcony

 

Holland America, Cunard, P&O, Costa, AiDA- Vaping permitted in the cabin, in designated smoking areas, and on the balcony

 

So then why is Carnival’s policy (after 9 Oct 2014) – Vaping not permitted in the cabin or on the balcony and only in designated smoking areas.

 

I feel the love. I guess they care more about us than the other Carnival Corp lines (Princess, Seabourn, HAL, Cunard, P&O, Costa, AiDA).

Princess allows vaping everywhere except MDR and theater shows.

[mrsd912]

I'm torn on this issue, and admittedly haven't read the whole thread.

 

DH is a smoker and I'm not. I'll still got out on our balcony with him and it doesn't bother me unless I'm standing on the railing with him, and I'm down wind. So I can see how your neighbors are affected by it.

 

But walking by the casino now bothers me now. Not through it, just by it. The amount of people smoking in the casino now is going to increase, making it even worse. I'm not happy about that because I like walking the promenade and that's where pictures are done. It's an unavoidable area.

 

We won't be sailing on Carnival again unless they open up one side to smokers and one to non, or until DH quits. It's a shame because I really like Carnival, but this rule change will have a negative affect on both of us, as a smoker and a non-smoker.

 

Next up we're trying NCL, and though they may go the way of banning smoking on balconies at some point, they don't right now.

Edited July 13, 2014 by mrsd912

[KansasTexan]

Seriously....how will they know if you have an eCig? Those who vape knows there is no odor...so??

 

I was dozing off on the serenity deck on the Magic not so long ago and kept getting a whiff of a weird odor. (No, I can't describe it. Not sweet, not smoky. But not pleasant.) it was just...weird. It was intermittent and enough to make me open my eyes, sit up and look around for the source. Lady at next lounger was using an e-cigarette. I simply moved. But yeah. At least one of them has an odor.

[medic123]

I was dozing off on the serenity deck on the Magic not so long ago and kept getting a whiff of a weird odor. (No, I can't describe it. Not sweet, not smoky. But not pleasant.) it was just...weird. It was intermittent and enough to make me open my eyes, sit up and look around for the source. Lady at next lounger was using an e-cigarette. I simply moved. But yeah. At least one of them has an odor.

 

Yes, some do have a slight odor based on the flavor they use.

[CHOPPERTESTER]

Princess allows vaping everywhere except MDR and theater shows.

 

Sorry Vicki alas not true

 

Electronic Cigarettes

The use of electronic cigarettes is allowed within the confines of the passenger's stateroom (balcony not included) and within designated smoking areas only.

 

http://www.princess.com/learn/faq_answer/onboard/experience.jsp

[idiebabe]

I was dozing off on the serenity deck on the Magic not so long ago and kept getting a whiff of a weird odor. (No, I can't describe it. Not sweet, not smoky. But not pleasant.) it was just...weird. It was intermittent and enough to make me open my eyes, sit up and look around for the source. Lady at next lounger was using an e-cigarette. I simply moved. But yeah. At least one of them has an odor.

 

You can buy flavors such as Popcorn, Pizza, etc. so maybe she had a flavored one. Most have absolutely no smell at all in the vapor. The E-Cigs have no tar in them and the tar is what is harmful to the smoker (and 2nd Hand Smoke) and the nicotine is what causes the addiction. The nicotine strength can vary from 0 nicotine - 16mg of nicotine. Also, depending on the type of E-Cig the vapor can be very minimal and even so the Vapor dissipates within a foot or two of the person Vaping.

 

I Vape and my Primary, Ear Specialist and Dermatologist all say that Vaping is harmless. Some on these threads will say differently but I'll put my trust in my Doctors as opposed to an anti-smoker on these boards who has an Agenda. Regarding FDA approval it takes a long time for the FDA to approve anything new and that is why, for example, new drugs on the market are more expensive than those that have been around for a long time.

 

All this debate about Vaping on balconies and in rooms is pointless because unless you are "spying" on your balcony neighbor you won't even know they are vaping! If you are spying on your "neighbor" while on vacation, that is pathetic!

Edited July 13, 2014 by idiebabe

[hftmrock]

I am a non smoker and if I am on my balcony and someone next door is smoking and it affects me, I will go inside or if the neighbor seems to be a chain smoker I will see what we can work out

 

having said that, if someone is smoking a cigarette and its not bothering me (not upwind) then I will let them smoke as much as they want. and never say a word to them

 

Having said that, with the new rules in place, if someone is smoking an ecig on the balcony and I obviously will not be affected, I would not say anything or take any pictures. if its not affecting me, why would I care. Its against the rules and I don't think much of anyone that brazenly breaks the rules but if its not affecting me, then they have to live with themselves on the decisions they make.

[Cushing985]

I saw a billboard while driving on a highway in SC that said,

OUR STATE IS NOT YOUR ASHTRAY

 

If smokers were a little less inconsiderate, the regulations being imposed over the past decade might not be as tight as they are.

All the smokers barking at the non-smokers on all these threads should look at the sloppiest/inconsiderate among you and gripe at them.

 

 

All societal laws and rules are implemented because of the worst among us. Think about it.

 

Unfortunately, you are correct. There are a lot of stupid people out there that don't understand the dangers of tossing cigarettes over the side of the ship. On the other hand, I believe the majority of the smokers out there are just as sickened by the behavior of these boors.

[Cushing985]

Your balcony is not a private space. There are already cameras everywhere. I would have no issue snapping a picture and turning in someone who was endangering the ship or my health and others. I have seen someone get put off the ship for smoking in their room and I hope they would do the same for smoking on the balcony once the rules change.

 

If I was a smoker sneaking a cigarette on my balcony and caught you taking a picture of me you and I would be talking to security together...you for reporting me and me lodging a stalking complaint. Maybe we could share a taxi to the airport at whatever port they kicked us off.:eek:

[sammee]

If I was a smoker sneaking a cigarette on my balcony and caught you taking a picture of me you and I would be talking to security together...you for reporting me and me lodging a stalking complaint. Maybe we could share a taxi to the airport at whatever port they kicked us off.:eek:

 

If I were to see somebody's phone/camera pointing into my balcony, I'd be calling security to report a pervert.

[RDC1]

Princess allows vaping everywhere except MDR and theater shows.

 

Unless another passenger objects. According to the Princess policy if another passenger objects then the person must stop.

[jambisket]

Im taking my first cruise in September. I smoke occasionally but im courteous to those who dont. I will smoke in designated areas. If I were a non smoker I wouldnt want to smell smoke on my balcony, however, I think ecig should be acceptable. Ive tried them once or twice and didnt notice an odor, but I may be wrong. Anywho, cant wait to have a drink and a smoke and a lot of good times. Booked an inside cabin and saved some $$.

 

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[elliair]

If I was a smoker sneaking a cigarette on my balcony and caught you taking a picture of me you and I would be talking to security together...you for reporting me and me lodging a stalking complaint. Maybe we could share a taxi to the airport at whatever port they kicked us off.:eek:

 

I wouldn't call it stalking taking a picture of you smoking on your balcony, I would call it gathering evidence so security could fine you $250. I don't see any rules yet of Carnival stating you can't take pictures of other passengers. Cameras are every where, on practically every stoplight, buildings, etc., taking yours and my picture. As much as we don't like it, it's here to stay.

Edited July 13, 2014 by elliair

[oakleys]

This is good news!

[FloridaMommyof3]

I picked up the "blu" e-cig yesterday, and you cannot smell anything whatsoever with vaping. Nothing. Nada.

[CHOPPERTESTER]

Quote:

Originally Posted by medic123

Princess allows vaping everywhere except MDR and theater shows.

 

Unless another passenger objects. According to the Princess policy if another passenger objects then the person must stop.

 

Sorry RDC1 not true

 

Go to the source

 

Electronic Cigarettes

The use of electronic cigarettes is allowed within the confines of the passenger's stateroom (balcony not included) and within designated smoking areas only.

 

http://www.princess.com/learn/faq_answer/onboard/experience.jsp

[sandij]

it would be more than stalking and info gathering if the person wasn't dressed, after all they thought they were in the privacy of the room they paid for.

[Saint Greg]

They need a smoking lounge. As a cigar smoker I brought a travel humidor with cigars and planned on buying more in Mexico for the return trip. I only smoked one cigar the entire time. Without a balcony, one side of lido was my only smoking option. I didn't really want to smoke outside during the day when it was hot. At night I was usually at shows. I only smoked on Thursday night when there were less shows. There's pretty much no incentive for me to get a balcony room now and I will check the smoking policy on other cruise lines before booking my next trip.