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The Quantum class and the CRW25 Mega lifeboat

greykangaroo

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troykahack

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The linens and materials in cabins do not need to be fire resistant, due to the presence of the fixed sprinkler system. (Not something you'd want on an airliner :D).

 

It is interesting to note, as I posted on another thread with you, that in testing the cigarette theory during the Star Princess fire, they were not able to ignite a Princess towel with a cigarette.

 

I find your posts interesting, enjoyable, and most of all informational. I once had my Master Near Coastal 100gt. Had a hobby for fishing and large Sport Fisherman's. Wakers Cay no longer exists for the big fishing tournaments and weekend runs. Maybe one day, someone will invest in the small island.

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BamaGuy44

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You'll have to excuse us if we don't just take your word for it. Are there any studies or anything else indicating these larger life boats inherently endanger more lives that the older 150 passenger ones?

 

In the article you posted it sounds like they are actually improvements over the old system, with being able to deploy directly from their stowed position, etc.

 

What information are you privy to that these maritime engineers and experienced crew members are missing?

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This is certainly the most interesting topic I've read in a while - thanks to all who've pitched in!

 

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but didn't most of the passenger deaths on Concordia occur because they disobeyed crew instructions [eg returning to their cabins]?

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Hahahahah! What a festival of gems we have sparkling this morning.

 

The winner of today's utterances is 'Aquahound" with 'Australian nationals in a Bahamas flagged ship'.

 

I'm heading up topside with my wife and are stopped by security banishing cable ties. "We are Australians", I tell them.

"I'm sorry sir, we didn't know, let us escort you to the top".

"There's a dance band up there playing snappy, modern dance numbers for your enjoyment whilst you wait for the Coast Guard helicopter."

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cruisinfanatic

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HOW THE BIG NEW MEGA LINERS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH FEWER LIFEBOATS

 

Looking at the Quantum and Ovation of the Seas, you would be wondering why there are so few lifeboats.

In a way there isn’t [see my summing up below] for these ships are now fitted with the new CRW25 Mega Life boat that holds 370 people each.

Total potential survivors in boats for the Quantum class [Ovation of the Seas] with 18 boats would be 6660.

Read about the superseded 150 rule.

 

http://www.rina.org.uk/mega-lifeboat.html

 

Having sailed on many liners, I believe that the problem will be in loading 370 panicking passengers into each boat, probably in the dark, on a sloping deck and in rough weather.

To make matters worse the passengers are supposed to congregate on deck 4 virtually below the water line, to be issued with a life jacket from a cupboard. [None are in cabins any more.]

They then are expected to climb up three flights of steps to the boat deck on deck 7. [ lifts won’t be working]. Most are elderly with many wheel chairs, push chairs and even gophers.

 

Many times on today's long haul cruises we have been hundreds of miles at sea and help in the form of a warship doing 30 knots would take ten or twelve hours to reach us.

 

There is one hell of a tragedy brewing and Concordia aside, I find it hard to believe that it hasn’t already happened in the open sea.

Think about 6200 people on board. The loss of life could potentially be in the thousands.

A whole lot of guessing on your part

Lets review, deck 4 would not be below the waterline unless the ship was tipped over

No clue why you assume most are elderly....

If you expect to get on a lifeboat on deck 7, you are sure in for a big disappointment

Hiking up the stairs (no elevator as you said)? Headed for the pool bar?

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This is certainly the most interesting topic I've read in a while - thanks to all who've pitched in!

 

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but didn't most of the passenger deaths on Concordia occur because they disobeyed crew instructions [eg returning to their cabins]?

 

Actually, for a large part of the time, the passengers were told to return to their cabins. The sole reason there were any deaths at all on the Concordia was Schettino's failure to sound the alarm for passenger muster in a timely fashion. Within 6 minutes of hitting the rock, Schettino was informed that 3 watertight compartments were flooding (actually there were 4), and Schettino is heard acknowledging that if it was only two compartments then the ship was safe, but if it was three, then the ship was going to sink. No force on God's earth can keep a two compartment ship like all cruise ships afloat when 4 adjacent compartments are flooding. Yet, Schettino refused to signal the muster signal, and finally, 51 minutes after hitting the rock, the word was passed by PA to abandon ship, which freed crew to abandon at the same time as passengers. If the muster had been called 40 minutes earlier, passengers would have been accounted for, and the crew would have had the boats prepped, and at no time prior to the time that the abandon ship order was given, was the ship listing more than 10* and all boats and rafts could have been launched.

 

The sole person responsible for those deaths is Schettino.

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