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Family sailing on POA in 3 cabins: grandparents (Platinums) + 1 teen granddaughter in corner aft 2-bedroom suite. Son + his tween daughter and 8 y/o son in adjoining aft balcony. Daughter, her hubby and 9 y/o son in another aft balcony a few doors down.

 

Question:. Since suites get extra benefits and the 2-br suite can have 5 occupants registered, what is the optimum occupancy we should employ in detailing whose names are assigned to which cabins?

 

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If you can BOOK it with all the adults in the suite, then they will all get the "perks"....but that probably won't be possible. You can try...book on the phone. Once onboard, no one cares where you're sleeping.

 

But it's true...only those registered in the suite get the perks.

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Just remember the following from NCL when you list who goes in what cabin:

 

" Norwegian Cruise Lines policy dictates that a minor or young adult under the age of 21 must be accompanied in the same stateroom by a guest 21 years of age or older at the time of boarding. Minors – an individual under the age of 18 on the day of embarkation/boarding."

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Oh boy...

Suite guests get suite perks. Non suite passengers do not.

Oh boy.

 

OK you will NOT get suite butler concierge services in the non-suite cabins.

The folks in the suite can invite other guests (family members) into their cabin and entertain them.

Concierge services will be limited in scope

Any Butler worth his salt will take care of the wishes of his suite occupants and their guests but only

in so much as within the suite only and not the adjoining cabins.

There maybe a point where a service requested stops at the cabin door - respect that and also

if an extension is made beyond that point - an extraordinary tip would be in order. If such a service

is extended don't go blabbing it out embarrassing the Butler to his superiors.

In other words:

"What goes on in the Suite stays in the Suite" !

On a recent cruise the Butler was accommodating to my requests - enough said !

Also remember be aware that your Butler may handle as many as 10 or more suite cabins and extra

guest services may tax his performance to its limits and the cabin steward may have to be in calhoots

with some services (moving adding furniture etc.)

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It may depend on what booking perks (if any) you select. Since many perks are for the 1st and 2nd passengers only or are per cabin, it make sense to have the adults spread across the cabins, as you have. The only downside is that those adults not in the suite would not have the benefit of a suite-only breakfast/lunch restaurant. Likely not a dealbreaker, but some people do enjoy the upgraded options (though, the kids would not be able to enjoy the same perks). Worst case, have the suite occupants order in a large breakfast to the suite and treat others in the mornings.

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It may depend on what booking perks (if any) you select. Since many perks are for the 1st and 2nd passengers only or are per cabin, it make sense to have the adults spread across the cabins, as you have. The only downside is that those adults not in the suite would not have the benefit of a suite-only breakfast/lunch restaurant. Likely not a dealbreaker, but some people do enjoy the upgraded options (though, the kids would not be able to enjoy the same perks). Worst case, have the suite occupants order in a large breakfast to the suite and treat others in the mornings.

 

Having those in the other non-suite cabins join you for the suite breakfast in Cagney's Moderno LaCacina can

be arranged thru the Concierge - it maybe allowed every day of the cruise or only as directed.

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Spread the adults to maximize free at sea promos. Suite guests can have breakfast and lunch insuites restaurant. Since you are in port every day, lunch is not a big swinger. And a fried egg in the buffet is just as good as the suites restaurant. So there are no perks to worry about.

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It may depend on what booking perks (if any) you select. Since many perks are for the 1st and 2nd passengers only or are per cabin, it make sense to have the adults spread across the cabins, as you have. The only downside is that those adults not in the suite would not have the benefit of a suite-only breakfast/lunch restaurant. Likely not a dealbreaker, but some people do enjoy the upgraded options (though, the kids would not be able to enjoy the same perks). Worst case, have the suite occupants order in a large breakfast to the suite and treat others in the mornings.

 

Having those in the other non-suite cabins join you for the suite breakfast in Cagney's Moderno LaCacina can

be arranged thru the Concierge - it maybe allowed every day of the cruise or only as directed.

 

On POA you can order room service to suites but you can't order Cagneys for breakfast or lunch like the other ships.

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Just remember the following from NCL when you list who goes in what cabin:

 

"Norwegian Cruise Lines policy dictates that a minor or young adult under the age of 21 must be accompanied in the same stateroom by a guest 21 years of age or older at the time of boarding. Minors – an individual under the age of 18 on the day of embarkation/boarding."

 

There is actually some conflicting information regarding this on ncl.com - the FAQ's have the information you have quoted, but on the bottom of information about required travel documentation (you have to scroll down to almost the bottom of that page), it actually states that

Quote: Travelling with Minors and Young Adults:

Norwegian Cruise Line’s policy dictates that a minor or young adult must be accompanied in the same stateroom (or connecting stateroom) by a passenger 21 years of age or older at the time of boarding. End of quote.

Note that it states connecting stateroom (meaning a door between the two staterooms) and not adjoined stateroom.

https://www.ncl.com/no/en/freestyle-cruise/cruise-travel-documents

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There is actually some conflicting information regarding this on ncl.com - the FAQ's have the information you have quoted, but on the bottom of information about required travel documentation (you have to scroll down to almost the bottom of that page), it actually states that

Quote: Travelling with Minors and Young Adults:

Norwegian Cruise Line’s policy dictates that a minor or young adult must be accompanied in the same stateroom (or connecting stateroom) by a passenger 21 years of age or older at the time of boarding. End of quote.

Note that it states connecting stateroom (meaning a door between the two staterooms) and not adjoined stateroom.

https://www.ncl.com/no/en/freestyle-cruise/cruise-travel-documents

This has changed, NCL would not allow our 18 and 19 year olds to be booked in a connecting balcony, DH had to be booked in one cabin, me in the other, sitting up our UBP perk.

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There is actually some conflicting information regarding this on ncl.com ...

 

It depends on what part of the NCL site that you are reading. I just checked and found...:confused:

Traveling with Minors and Young Adults:

Norwegian Cruise Lines policy dictates that a minor or young adult under the age of 21 must be accompanied in the same stateroom by a guest 21 years of age or older at the time of boarding. (in the FAQ section) -LINK

...and I also found...

Traveling with Minors and Young Adults:

Norwegian Cruise Line’s policy dictates that a minor or young adult must be accompanied in the same stateroom (or connecting stateroom) by a passenger 21 years of age or older at the time of boarding. (in the Required Travel Documentation section) - LINK

...and the Guest Ticket Contract has...

© Guests under 21: Any Guest under 21 years of age is considered a minor. Any Guest under the age of 21 must be accompanied in the same, connecting, or side by side stateroom by a Guest 21 years of age or older at the time of embarkation who expressly agrees to be responsible for the under 21 Guest throughout the cruise. - 04/17 - LINK

 

...so, it's understandable that there are mixed results and answers.

The current policy is the most restrictive one (an adult/21 year-old required in each stateroom for booking).

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I don't know exactly what perks you have on your booking for each cabin (it would be helpful if you provided this info) but generally the perks on the POA are not really worth spending a lot of time stressing and scheming over. Since there is no UBP (for North American bookings), and no Haven facilities for suites. As already pointed out, you won't be able to book all 5 adults into the suite, because you will need at least one in the non-adjoining cabin, and probably one more in the adjoining cabin. And if the adults want the specialty dining package perk, they need to be booked as guest 1 or 2 in their own cabin.

 

You can book extra kids in to the suite to get them the suite benefits, but you have 4 kids, so how are you going to choose? And what benefits are they really going to care about? If they're just going to want candy and snacks from the butler, you don't need to book them into your suite to get that.

 

Also anyone booked into the suite will have to pay the higher daily service charge (even if you have the free gratuities perk, it's only for guests 1 and 2, unless you're getting a special deal from a TA or something).

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It depends on what part of the NCL site that you are reading. I just checked and found...:confused:

Traveling with Minors and Young Adults:

Norwegian Cruise Lines policy dictates that a minor or young adult under the age of 21 must be accompanied in the same stateroom by a guest 21 years of age or older at the time of boarding. (in the FAQ section) -LINK

...and I also found...

Traveling with Minors and Young Adults:

Norwegian Cruise Line’s policy dictates that a minor or young adult must be accompanied in the same stateroom (or connecting stateroom) by a passenger 21 years of age or older at the time of boarding. (in the Required Travel Documentation section) - LINK

...and the Guest Ticket Contract has...

© Guests under 21: Any Guest under 21 years of age is considered a minor. Any Guest under the age of 21 must be accompanied in the same, connecting, or side by side stateroom by a Guest 21 years of age or older at the time of embarkation who expressly agrees to be responsible for the under 21 Guest throughout the cruise. - 04/17 - LINK

 

...so, it's understandable that there are mixed results and answers.

The current policy is the most restrictive one (an adult/21 year-old required in each stateroom for booking).

 

No wonder people get confused. Am I the only one to think that the guest ticket contract should be the one with the correct rules for all matters, including this...??? After all, that is the contract, the rest is conflicting information on ncl.com.

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No wonder people get confused. Am I the only one to think that the guest ticket contract should be the one with the correct rules for all matters, including this...??? After all, that is the contract, the rest is conflicting information on ncl.com.

I think they neglected to change everything on the website when their policy changed.

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Having those in the other non-suite cabins join you for the suite breakfast in Cagney's Moderno LaCacina can

 

be arranged thru the Concierge - it maybe allowed every day of the cruise or only as directed.

 

 

 

Or maybe not at all.

 

 

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