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On 10/14/2019 at 11:03 PM, ChasDot said:

 Amazing how people think their rights to keep people from smoking Trumps smokers rights. Smokers pay just as much for the cruise as y'all do . If a smoker is in a designated smoking area he or she should be able to smoke . I agree not in cabins or public areas of the ships. If you get a whiff of smoke too bad stay out of the smoking areas. Smokers do not come into your area.  I have more issues with people that use a  scooters , parking them in the lido buffet  isles while they walk to get their food ,or  set in a chair and eat. making other guests walk around their scooter.  Or unruly children, on some cruises playing tag in the elevators and in the hall ways. Or allowing their small children to snorkel in the hot tub due to the fact that the pool is too deep . And Keep your hands out of the food at the Lido Buffet, HAL provides utensils  to grab the food,

  I do not care how many cruises you have been on. You may be able to board, and depart before  me . but if I'am in line at the buffet , Or to enter the theater . You have no right what so ever to crowd in front of me and my wife . There are people aboard ship that had to scrimp and save even to be able to take a cruise  don't be a jerk about ,they and I do not care how  many cruises you have been on !!!!  P.S I do not smoke 

 

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Don't tell it like it is.😂 The crusaders will hunt you down.Smoking is the greatest topic to draw the ire of many. Goes from second hand smoke down to the smell on someone.

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Question for the smokers only (PLEASE).  It’s been 3 years since being on a HAL ship.  Do they still let you buy cartons (benson and hedges menthol) and take them back to your cabin, during the cruise ?  Just got off Princess and was pleasantly surprised that they are now allowing it.  Hoping HAL still does.  Leaving for a b2b in two weeks, just trying to plan.  Also, am I correct that the only smoking area on the Eurodam is at the aft sea view bar?  Thanks, Happy Sailing Everybody

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3 hours ago, sprinkles said:

Question for the smokers only (PLEASE).  It’s been 3 years since being on a HAL ship.  Do they still let you buy cartons (benson and hedges menthol) and take them back to your cabin, during the cruise ?  Just got off Princess and was pleasantly surprised that they are now allowing it.  Hoping HAL still does.  Leaving for a b2b in two weeks, just trying to plan.  Also, am I correct that the only smoking area on the Eurodam is at the aft sea view bar?  Thanks, Happy Sailing Everybody

 

Yes, you can buy cartons of cigarettes in the duty free shops and bring them back to your cabin. And yes, the only designated smoking area on Eurodam is deck 9 aft, starboard side near the seaview pool and bar.

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Do the smoking areas near the seaview pool actually affect the folks using the pool? I ask because one of X's primary designated smoking areas is near the main pool. But, I've never noticed it when I was in the pool. And, I do my best to avoid walking past that area, on my way to/from the pool. Hoping that the situation on HAL is similar.

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8 hours ago, wwcruisers said:

Do the smoking areas near the seaview pool actually affect the folks using the pool? I ask because one of X's primary designated smoking areas is near the main pool. But, I've never noticed it when I was in the pool. And, I do my best to avoid walking past that area, on my way to/from the pool. Hoping that the situation on HAL is similar.

If you walk in and out on the port side from the lido you “should” not have a problem.  It is a very small area.  However if you choose to walk in and out on the starboard side you will pass right by it.  The aft area is a rather large area, I guess for extra insurance, pick lounge chairs on the starboard side as well (New York Pizza side) and order drinks from a server and you would not be exposed at all.  As in my above post this is the ONLY area left we are allowed to smoke.  I have seen too many times the same passengers purposefully walking by during the entire cruise, waving hands, holding noses, etc.  just to make fun of us, when all they have to do is use the other door.

 

It gets annoying, I don’t travel with children.  If I choose to go to “their” pool, I don’t get angry, when they are acting like children.  So I usually go to the aft pool.

 

Happy Sailing Everybody, we all deserve restful happy cruises.

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Thanks, Sprinkles! It does sound very similar to the pool-side smoking area on X ships -- so it should be no problem for us. I too am searching for an 'adult pool', so if I need to walk a little further to circumvent the smoking area -- no worries!😎

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9 minutes ago, wwcruisers said:

Thanks, Sprinkles! It does sound very similar to the pool-side smoking area on X ships -- so it should be no problem for us. I too am searching for an 'adult pool', so if I need to walk a little further to circumvent the smoking area -- no worries!😎

Wow, thanks cruisers.  I wish everybody had your attitude!  Have an awesome cruise!

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2 hours ago, sprinkles said:

If you walk in and out on the port side from the lido you “should” not have a problem.  It is a very small area.  However if you choose to walk in and out on the starboard side you will pass right by it.  The aft area is a rather large area, I guess for extra insurance, pick lounge chairs on the starboard side as well (New York Pizza side) and order drinks from a server and you would not be exposed at all.  As in my above post this is the ONLY area left we are allowed to smoke.  I have seen too many times the same passengers purposefully walking by during the entire cruise, waving hands, holding noses, etc.  just to make fun of us, when all they have to do is use the other door.

 

It gets annoying, I don’t travel with children.  If I choose to go to “their” pool, I don’t get angry, when they are acting like children.  So I usually go to the aft pool.

 

Happy Sailing Everybody, we all deserve restful happy cruises.

 

One minor correction - New York Pizza on Eurodam is on the port (not starboard) side of deck 9. 😉

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Yup you are correct, i just mentioned it in passing. I’m dealing with just realizing that cigars and pipes are also allowed  in the one and only smoking area (we all have our “issues” lol).  That’s a bummer for me, as just off Princess and it had a cigar bar.  Oh well at least I know they are allowed there.  But got my guarantee cabin assignments today and too happy about location and not having to change cabins during the back to back. So hip hip hurray,  live and let live.  But this will be interesting, the one outdoor smoking area I just had on Princess was way bigger and often packed to capacity.  So quit or shut up lol.

 

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On our recent Eurodam sailing, the smoking area never seemed over crowded, or packed to capacity. There were always plenty of comfortable chairs and tables to accommodate everyone.

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1 hour ago, KroozNut said:

On our recent Eurodam sailing, the smoking area never seemed over crowded, or packed to capacity. There were always plenty of comfortable chairs and tables to accommodate everyone.

Stop it ! You're spoiling the narrative that HAL treats its smoker guests poorly . 

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On 10/22/2019 at 6:25 PM, sprinkles said:

Question for the smokers only (PLEASE).  It’s been 3 years since being on a HAL ship.  Do they still let you buy cartons (benson and hedges menthol) and take them back to your cabin, during the cruise ?  Just got off Princess and was pleasantly surprised that they are now allowing it.  Hoping HAL still does.  Leaving for a b2b in two weeks, just trying to plan.  Also, am I correct that the only smoking area on the Eurodam is at the aft sea view bar?  Thanks, Happy Sailing Everybody

We always buy cigarettes on board "Royal Caribbean, Holland ,Carnival ", as well as in Port on the island. We take them back to our cabin . The responsibility of Duty is yours.  If you smoke them while in port or in the smoking areas on ship you do not have to pay duty. I do not smoke but my wife does , and cigarettes are a lot cheaper when your not paying the high taxes . Duty once you return is minimal. People buy booze for the same reason aboard ship 

 

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On 10/15/2019 at 4:52 PM, T8NCruise said:

 

I agree with many of your points with the exception of the part I bolded.  Unfortunately, the actual smoke does stray and is not always contained in the smoking area.  And the smell of cigarettes/smoking goes with the smoker and is not pleasant for others in an elevator, for example.

.............As well as Body and foot  Order , Perfumes and aftershaves , Halitosis, clothes on the last 2 days of a long cruise . Soiled diapers or funky smell of old wet swimming suites . But I would never make it miserable for those people,  like non smokers do for smokers . "and Remember I do not smoke " 

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On 10/14/2019 at 11:03 PM, ChasDot said:

 Amazing how people think their rights to keep people from smoking Trumps smokers rights. Smokers pay just as much for the cruise as y'all do . If a smoker is in a designated smoking area he or she should be able to smoke . I agree not in cabins or public areas of the ships. If you get a whiff of smoke too bad stay out of the smoking areas. Smokers do not come into your area.  I have more issues with people that use a  scooters , parking them in the lido buffet  isles while they walk to get their food ,or  set in a chair and eat. making other guests walk around their scooter.  Or unruly children, on some cruises playing tag in the elevators and in the hall ways. Or allowing their small children to snorkel in the hot tub due to the fact that the pool is too deep . And Keep your hands out of the food at the Lido Buffet, HAL provides utensils  to grab the food,

  I do not care how many cruises you have been on. You may be able to board, and depart before  me . but if I'am in line at the buffet , Or to enter the theater . You have no right what so ever to crowd in front of me and my wife . There are people aboard ship that had to scrimp and save even to be able to take a cruise  don't be a jerk about ,they and I do not care how  many cruises you have been on !!!!  P.S I do not smoke 

 

10 hours ago, ChasDot said:

.............As well as Body and foot  Order , Perfumes and aftershaves , Halitosis, clothes on the last 2 days of a long cruise . Soiled diapers or funky smell of old wet swimming suites . But I would never make it miserable for those people,  like non smokers do for smokers . "and Remember I do not smoke " 

 

10 hours ago, ChasDot said:

We always buy cigarettes on board "Royal Caribbean, Holland ,Carnival ", as well as in Port on the island. We take them back to our cabin . The responsibility of Duty is yours.  If you smoke them while in port or in the smoking areas on ship you do not have to pay duty. I do not smoke but my wife does , and cigarettes are a lot cheaper when your not paying the high taxes . Duty once you return is minimal. People buy booze for the same reason aboard ship 

 

Hilarious !

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Change in Casino Smoking Policy (per HAL FAQ's posted October 2019):

Per the most recent FAQ on HAL's website, the smoking policy in the casinos fleetwide has changed to allow casino smoking on "designated nights, active players only".  Question: Has anyone seen this in effect?  Does this mean its 100% non-smoking at all other times?  Recent HAL cruisers, please chime in if this is hopefully being enforced...

Designated Smoking Areas

Eurodam, Nieuw Amsterdam, Noordam, Oosterdam, Westerdam, Zuiderdam

  • Sea View Bar area
  • Oak Room (Noordam only, including cigar and pipe smoking)

Koningsdam, Nieuw Statendam

  • Sea View Bar area
  • Casino (designated nights, active players only)

Amsterdam, Maasdam, Volendam, Zaandam

  • Sea View Bar area
  • Sports Deck, outside Crow's Nest
  • Casino (designated nights, active players only)

Rotterdam, Veendam

  • The Retreat Bar area
  • Sports Deck, outside Crow's Nest
  • Casino (designated nights, active players only)
Edited by Oren

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19 minutes ago, Oren said:

Change in Casino Smoking Policy (per HAL FAQ's posted October 2019):

Per the most recent FAQ on HAL's website, the smoking policy in the casinos fleetwide has changed to allow casino smoking on "designated nights, active players only".  Question: Has anyone seen this in effect?  Does this mean its 100% non-smoking at all other times? 

I don't think this is a change . This was the policy on the Veendam July '17 . There were 2 non-smoking nights . I was pleasantly surprises how little residual smell of smoke there was . On smoking nights, only gamblers were allowed to smoke . You could cheat but I did see a few not gamblers being told to butt out . Perhaps it's gone from designated non-smoking nights to  designated smoking nights but that's really not a change is it ?

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3 hours ago, richstowe said:

I don't think this is a change . This was the policy on the Veendam July '17 . There were 2 non-smoking nights . I was pleasantly surprises how little residual smell of smoke there was . On smoking nights, only gamblers were allowed to smoke . You could cheat but I did see a few not gamblers being told to butt out . Perhaps it's gone from designated non-smoking nights to  designated smoking nights but that's really not a change is it ?

The heading on the section is "Designated Smoking Areas" followed by bullet-points stating where it is allowed and when.  It is clear to me that it means that smoking is on designated nights only.  Whether they follow this on the cruise ship is another story.  

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16 hours ago, Oren said:

The heading on the section is "Designated Smoking Areas" followed by bullet-points stating where it is allowed and when.  It is clear to me that it means that smoking is on designated nights only.  Whether they follow this on the cruise ship is another story.  

 

Yes, but that is not a change in policy.  They've always had "non-smoking" nights in some of the casinos.  Bottom line is that smoking is still allowed in the casino on some ships, which is what people who don't like indoor smoking want to know.

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8 hours ago, bEwAbG said:

 

Bottom line is that smoking is still allowed in the casino on some ships, which is what people who don't like indoor smoking want to know.

 

And not allowed in casinos on other ships, Oosterdam, Eurodam and Zuiderdam casinos are completely
non-smoking.

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