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On 10/29/2019 at 12:20 PM, ChasDot said:

.............As well as Body and foot  Order , Perfumes and aftershaves , Halitosis, clothes on the last 2 days of a long cruise . Soiled diapers or funky smell of old wet swimming suites . But I would never make it miserable for those people,  like non smokers do for smokers . "and Remember I do not smoke " 

If I never smell Tea Rose perfume in the elevator again I'll die a happy person. Love the old line "Care if I smoke"? reply "Hell, I don't care if your burn". Just a joke folks but flame (get it) away should you care to. Hugs and Kisses. Thoughts and prayers.

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14 minutes ago, qoap24 said:

I do not know all of the smoking areas on NS but I do know that on Lido deck aft starboard. We were in Neptune suite 4211 and we could smell the smoke while in port and would find cigarette buds on our balcony

That's terrible and a fire hazard.  Did you report it to your concierge?  One of them should have reported it to the proper personnel. 

 

Yes, smoking is allowed in a designated area on aft Lido Deck, usually on the side that has the bar.  Smoking is also permitted on certain evenings in the casino.  Other than those two areas, I am unaware that there is any other designated smoking spots.  Smoking is prohibited on your balcony and in your cabin/bathroom.  

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4 minutes ago, sevenseasnomad said:

That's terrible and a fire hazard.  Did you report it to your concierge?  One of them should have reported it to the proper personnel. 

 

No we never reported it just simply because we did not think they would really be able to do anything about it. But for our next cruise we have booked on the port side to avoid the smoking area. 

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Just now, qoap24 said:

No we never reported it just simply because we did not think they would really be able to do anything about it. But for our next cruise we have booked on the port side to avoid the smoking area. 

I don't blame you, but someone in authority should know about the butts ending up on balconies below this area.  That's definitely a fire hazard.  Yes, something could have been done.  Extra security may have been posted in the smoking area, or the bartenders/waiters in the area could have been alerted to watch out for passengers throwing butts over the side of the ship.  Either or both of these measures may have led to discovering the identity of the culprit(s) who were endangering others.

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Another Smoking Area is on the Sun Deck, I believe, it’s by the Sun Bar.  A friend on a recent Cruise would go up there to lay out.   She said there is beverage Service as well as tables and Loungers and ashtrays.

 

As as far as Cabin Selection we were on Deck 8 both times we’ve sailed on Nieuw Statendam.  Our last Cruise our Stateroom was Aft under the Smoking Area and never smelled smoke or had a problem with finding butts on our Balcony.  Once in awhile you can hear some chair scrapping but not bothersome.  First time on her we were more Mid-Ship on Deck 8 and also no issues.  

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3 hours ago, DFWGUYZ said:

Love the old line "Care if I smoke"? reply "Hell, I don't care if your burn".

 

Glutton for punishment, are you? 🙄😳

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I miss the old "unimproved" CC where you could see who posted and how many times in a particular thread .

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In my opinion, as a smoker, there are not enough places to smoke on a cruise ship.  Smokers have a 3 by 3 foot area and non smokers begrudge us that.  I get casino rates and If I can’t smoke in the casino, I will not gamble.  I used to enjoy having my morning coffee on my balcony and late at night just sitting out there.  No more. I used to pay for a balcony cabin, but not worth it now. The ships are like being in a jail cell.  I only cruise now when my husband makes me.  There are just too many non smoking rules.  

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11 hours ago, Happy traveler 1 said:

In my opinion, as a smoker, there are not enough places to smoke on a cruise ship.  Smokers have a 3 by 3 foot area and non smokers begrudge us that.  I get casino rates and If I can’t smoke in the casino, I will not gamble.  I used to enjoy having my morning coffee on my balcony and late at night just sitting out there.  No more. I used to pay for a balcony cabin, but not worth it now. The ships are like being in a jail cell.  I only cruise now when my husband makes me.  There are just too many non smoking rules.  

 

Welcome to the 21st century! 🙄

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On 12/10/2019 at 11:44 PM, I like vacation said:

Half of the casino has smoking-slots only.  

Trying to find out WHAT SHIP Casino's allow smoking!!! looked on another thread but someone got snarky and said the posters had to go to this long.............thread and I have read pages and pages and still not had my questions answered.  I hate smoking in the casino's and thought that HAL had banned it.  is there smoking on the Veendam in the Casino still?

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SMOKING POLICY All staterooms, suites, and verandahs are non-smoking. Guests in violation of our policy will be charged a $250 per day cleaning fee. E-cigarettes are permitted in staterooms, otherwise only in designated smoking areas. Except as otherwise noted, cigar and pipe smoking is not allowed anywhere inside the ship; it is only permitted in designated outdoor smoking areas. Designated Smoking Areas Eurodam, Nieuw Amsterdam, Noordam, Oosterdam, and Westerdam, Zuiderdam º Sea View Bar area º Oak Room (Noordam only, including cigar and pipe smoking) Koningsdam, Nieuw Statendam º Sea View Bar area º Casino (designated nights, active players only) Amsterdam, Maasdam, Volendam, and Zaandam º Sea View Bar area º Sports Deck, outside Crow’s Nest º Casino (designated nights, active players only) Rotterdam, and Veendam º The Retreat Bar area º Sports Deck, outside Crow’s Nest º Casino (designated nights, active players only) Note that outdoor smoking areas may be designated as port or starboard, varying by ship. Please comply with ship signage. Holland America Line reserves the right at any time to modify the smoking policy onboard or alter the locations where smoking is permissible.

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15 minutes ago, VTcruisenut said:

is there smoking on the Veendam in the Casino still?

 

Yes.  Veendam is S-Class.  See below.

 

On 10/25/2018 at 5:25 PM, AtlantaCruiser72 said:

Oosterdam, Westerdam, Zuiderdam, Eurodam and Nieuw Amsterdam all have non-smoking casinos.  In fact those five ships only have one small smoking area, located on Deck 9 (Lido) aft,  adjacent to the Seaview Bar.  Other than that area the ships are 100% smoke-free.  Konigsdam, Noordam and the S & R Class ships all still allow smoking in the casino, but other than that follow the same smoking protocol as the rest of the fleet.  Whether Nieuw Statendam allows smoking in the casino is as of yet unknown.

 

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19 minutes ago, VTcruisenut said:

Trying to find out WHAT SHIP Casino's allow smoking!!! looked on another thread but someone got snarky and said the posters had to go to this long.............thread and I have read pages and pages and still not had my questions answered.  I hate smoking in the casino's and thought that HAL had banned it.  is there smoking on the Veendam in the Casino still?

My comment referred to the Nieuw Statendam as the previous comments concerned the Nieuw Statendam.  The Nieuw Statendam allows smoking in a section of slot machines.  No smoking at the table games.  I know that the Oosterdam and the Zuiderdam do not have smoking in the casino as I have been on these ships recently.  I will be on the Veendam in 3 weeks and the casino should be non smoking.  I will report back here if different.

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18 hours ago, I like vacation said:

My comment referred to the Nieuw Statendam as the previous comments concerned the Nieuw Statendam.  The Nieuw Statendam allows smoking in a section of slot machines.  No smoking at the table games.  I know that the Oosterdam and the Zuiderdam do not have smoking in the casino as I have been on these ships recently.  I will be on the Veendam in 3 weeks and the casino should be non smoking.  I will report back here if different.

I posted this same question on a FB post and everyone is telling me that there is smoking in the casino on the Veendam and that it is BAD!   not very happy about this!

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41 minutes ago, VTcruisenut said:

I posted this same question on a FB post and everyone is telling me that there is smoking in the casino on the Veendam and that it is BAD!   not very happy about this!

Celebrity has no smoking casinos, all ships.

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1 hour ago, VTcruisenut said:

I posted this same question on a FB post and everyone is telling me that there is smoking in the casino on the Veendam and that it is BAD!   not very happy about this!

 

I guess the next question is how many "designated" smoking nights does the Veendam have?  Every night??

 

 

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4 hours ago, I like vacation said:

 

I guess the next question is how many "designated" smoking nights does the Veendam have?  Every night??

 

To my knowledge that is not determined (or at least made public) in advance of a sailing.  But the non-smoking days are ALWAYS published in the daily program which is delivered to your stateroom each evening.

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12 hours ago, I like vacation said:

 

I guess the next question is how many "designated" smoking nights does the Veendam have?  Every night??

 

 

halsmoking.PNG

On a 7 day cruise there are usually 2 gala nights and those are the non-smoking nights.

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Can anyone explain the rationale behind allowing the smoking of e cigarettes in a stateroom but not on a veranda.

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I've read long ago that they LOOK like regular cigarettes and that someone seeing you in a public space (might be visible on some balconies?) would think you were flaunting the rules.

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10 hours ago, Barney10 said:

Can anyone explain the rationale behind allowing the smoking of e cigarettes in a stateroom but not on a veranda.

 

The only thing I can think of is that the 'steam' from vaping doesn't cling to cabin furnishings like the tar in cigarettes, so the next occupant of the cabin won't complain about the offensive odors.  But there is no reason to believe that 'second-hand vaping' doesn't contain harmful chemicals [esp. nicotine, an addictive drug].  The vaping companies swear that it is perfectly safe, but ... hm... didn't the tobacco companies claim that too?  So I want my environment free of cigars, cigarettes, pipes – and vapers.  BTW my son-in-law switched from a mild cigarette habit to vaping – and now finds it impossible to quit because the nicotine addiction from vaping is even worse than cigarettes.

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 Why do you think you may smoke an e-cigarette in a stateroom, that is prohibited.  From HAL's smoking policy."Electronic cigarettes are not permitted in staterooms or in other public areas of the ship other than designated smoking areas."

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From page 15 of Holland America's Know Before You Go:

SMOKING POLICY

E-cigarettes are permitted in staterooms, otherwise only in
designated smoking areas.
 

And yet the FAQ on the website says:

Electronic cigarettes are not permitted in staterooms or in other public areas of the ship other than designated smoking areas.

 

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