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Good morning everyone.   We'll be arriving at LHR via ANZ from LAX at 11:45 am.   Available flights to Edinburgh on British Air  are at 2pm & 3:30.   These will be separately booked tickets not true connecting flights.   

 

We're in premium economy on ANZ & have Global Entry ( I realize this is a U.S. program, but it helped us in New Zealand)   I'd really like to do the 2pm flight & realize that it's a bit tight (we'd have to grab our bags & go through customs & immigration)   We'll be traveling lightens, & are able to get though the airport pretty easily.   It's been a few years since I flew through LHR,   in 2014, I easily made a flight with a two hour layover, but I realize things may have changed.   Appreciate any tips.  

 

Additional question,  can I be "in transit"  & just enter the UK in Edinburgh?  

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Given they are not true connecting flights, there is no reason not to take the later flight. Why risk a 60-min delay (happens all the time) over making your flight to save 90-mins. 

 

From my understanding there is no way not to pass through customs and immigration in LHR first, which can take some time. Though U.S. Passport holders do get to use EU lines I think? Someone else can confirm that I think it is a new program. 

 

I just see no positive. If it was a real connection, then sure, 2:00pm should be enough time. But given separate tickets, no reason to not give more buffer. 

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As to using your Global Entry in England (or New Zealand), it depends if that country is recognizing the "Known Traveler " system on a worldwide basis- a few countries do. Canadian airports do this...your Global Entry card allows you into a faster security line, and later of course, with your passport, through US pre-clearance. I have not seen that Great Britain is recognizing the Known Traveler system, but it would be nice if they did.

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40 minutes ago, CruiserBruce said:

As to using your Global Entry in England (or New Zealand), it depends if that country is recognizing the "Known Traveler " system on a worldwide basis- a few countries do. Canadian airports do this...your Global Entry card allows you into a faster security line, and later of course, with your passport, through US pre-clearance. I have not seen that Great Britain is recognizing the Known Traveler system, but it would be nice if they did.

 

If you go to the UK frequently as a US citizen, you can sign up as a Registered Traveller for GBP70, plus GBP50 each year, and that gets you in the UK/EU passport line, or the ePassport gates, without any need for a landing card. For a one-time trip, obviously not worth it. If you're entering the UK many times each year, it may very well be. That being said, I am a frequent entrant to the UK and have never felt it worth the money yet.

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2 hours ago, cruise kitty said:

Good morning everyone.   We'll be arriving at LHR via ANZ from LAX at 11:45 am.   Available flights to Edinburgh on British Air  are at 2pm & 3:30.   These will be separately booked tickets not true connecting flights.   

 

We're in premium economy on ANZ & have Global Entry ( I realize this is a U.S. program, but it helped us in New Zealand)   I'd really like to do the 2pm flight & realize that it's a bit tight (we'd have to grab our bags & go through customs & immigration)   We'll be traveling lightens, & are able to get though the airport pretty easily.   It's been a few years since I flew through LHR,   in 2014, I easily made a flight with a two hour layover, but I realize things may have changed.   Appreciate any tips.  

 

Additional question,  can I be "in transit"  & just enter the UK in Edinburgh?  

 

Let's start at the bottom - no, you can't just enter the UK in Edinburgh. It would be like someone wanting to fly from London to San Francisco to Los Angeles, but be able to get on the SFO-LAX flight without clearing immigration. Then, when that flight lands at LAX, figuring out how to sort those people away from the others just flying a regular domestic flight from San Francisco. Pretty much impossible, and it's the same in the UK.

 

I wouldn't put the stress on myself to take the 2pm flight. Yes, we all want to get to our destinations ASAP, but it's just too easy to have a delay in your flight, a delay in immigration, a delay picking up your baggage, and a delay transferring terminals...with 2h15 between flights, any one of those can easily make you a "no show" for your LHR-EDI flight.

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You also need to factor in the cost of buying tickets at the 'walk up' price if you miss your flight (assuming seats are even available). From my perspective you have only a 50:50 chance of making the early flight, so for peace of mind, and from an economic point of view as well  go for the later flight.

One other issue, which may or may not apply in your case. If you have return tickets to Edinburgh and back, and miss the outgoing flight, your return flights will automatically be cancelled.

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IIRC NZ would arrive into T3 while the BA flights to EDI depart out of T5 so a terminal change is involved that will take at least 20 minutes.  Immigration lines at T3 are said to be horribly long at the wrong times of the day, and don't assume there will be EU or any express lines to use.

 

If you were to fly BA on a through ticket, I believe you can clear immigration at a transit point to the domestic area (they're not fully segregated) at LHR and customs at EDI.

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Thank you to Flymia, Cruiser Bruce, Zach1213, Wowzz, & Cruising Cockaroach for your replies.   

 

I'm going to take your good advice & book the later flight.   Looks like if I book regular economy, they allow same day flight changes, so if by some miracle we get through everything early, we'll try flying standby on the earlier flight.  

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10 minutes ago, cruising cockroach said:

Have you bought the NZ tickets already?  I'd much rathet fly LAX-AMS-EDI.  Likely to be less of a hassle.

 

Yes, they are purchased already,  I've always been super happy with ANZ premium economy product, & we book the same seats every time.  We leave around the 1st of May.  

 

Thanks again for your help

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ANZ's premium economy is great.  Immigration at LHR's T3 is not great unless you have their Fast Pass.  When went through there last May coming off of a United flight and it took us 2 hours just to clear immigration.  They were fully staffed but overloaded with passengers.  You might want to check with ANZ to see if your PE fare includes  LHR's FastTrack.  There have also been some articles about the UK beginning to accept our Global Entry and chipped passports in their EU/UK lanes to help lighten the load on the Non EU/JK side but I don't recall the start date.  

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I know that ANZ premium economy will get me fast tracked if I was boarding, but in this case I'll be boarding BA.  I think for this leg only I'll book BA's version of business class so we don't get caught up in a long line.  Plus we'll get the nice lounge to wait in.  

 

Thanks everyone!

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1 hour ago, cruise kitty said:

I know that ANZ premium economy will get me fast tracked if I was boarding, but in this case I'll be boarding BA.  I think for this leg only I'll book BA's version of business class so we don't get caught up in a long line.  Plus we'll get the nice lounge to wait in.  

 

Thanks everyone!

 

I will say the BA lounges are...fine. In the morning and early afternoon (more so the morning) they can be uncomfortably busy, but still better than the general seating areas of T5A/B/C. Plus, you get access to showers which is the single greatest thing in the world after an overnight flight, in my opinion.

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