batholiver Posted December 31, 2020 #1 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Anyone any information as to what's happening around the Channel ports? Are things getting back to normal for those vital imports and exports by truck? Supermarket deliveries are still short of quite a few items, and I'm wondering what the chances are for some return to normality, bearing in mind what happens at 2300 today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted December 31, 2020 #2 Share Posted December 31, 2020 The crunch will be tomorrow, when we'll see how many people know how to fill in an EUR1 ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted December 31, 2020 #3 Share Posted December 31, 2020 According to the local BBC news at lunchtime Dover is quiet and some transport firms are delaying cross channel crossings for a week or so after which they hope things will run smoother. Meanwhile a local MP is stirring trouble by demanding the French stop the requirement for a negative test. France will decide today but of course demanding anything of the French is not a good idea 🙄 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted December 31, 2020 #4 Share Posted December 31, 2020 35 minutes ago, wowzz said: The crunch will be tomorrow, when we'll see how many people know how to fill in an EUR1 ! Plus how many of our hauliers have the required license to actually work in the EU. I think there are a lot less licenses than haulage firms. For balance this applies to some EU countries as well, I remember Holland not being happy with their allocated licence total. The Gibraltar border will be fine, they have just agreed the rock will be in the Schengen area. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batholiver Posted January 2, 2021 Author #5 Share Posted January 2, 2021 So far so good then? Fingers crossed for when normal traffic levels restart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted January 2, 2021 #6 Share Posted January 2, 2021 On 12/31/2020 at 4:11 PM, davecttr said: Plus how many of our hauliers have the required license to actually work in the EU. I think there are a lot less licenses than haulage firms. For balance this applies to some EU countries as well, I remember Holland not being happy with their allocated licence total. The Gibraltar border will be fine, they have just agreed the rock will be in the Schengen area. I would like to think that all current haulage firms shipping to the EU would have licenses, and since the Beeb and Sky news have not been bleating about this being a problem, then it isn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted January 2, 2021 #7 Share Posted January 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: I would like to think that all current haulage firms shipping to the EU would have licenses, and since the Beeb and Sky news have not been bleating about this being a problem, then it isn't. 'bleating' is a provocative word!, anyway I checked and there were restrictions in the past but the 'deal' includes a no licence limit, which both parties will be happy about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted January 2, 2021 #8 Share Posted January 2, 2021 5 hours ago, davecttr said: 'bleating' is a provocative word!, anyway I checked and there were restrictions in the past but the 'deal' includes a no licence limit, which both parties will be happy about. I accept your apology for posting incorrect information.😇🤫 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare P&O SUE Posted January 2, 2021 #9 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I’m in Kent and the local news said everything was flowing well yesterday, no lorries in the old airport they’ve been using. Of course yesterday was a Bank Holiday so we’ll see what happens Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted January 8, 2021 #10 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Seems that delays are increasing, even at 50% of normal levels. BBC News - Brexit: Firms warn of problems as new EU trade rules kick inhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55583244 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardennais Posted January 8, 2021 #11 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Also this: Brexit: Haulage firms call for easing of Irish Sea trade border rules https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55586246 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathygh Posted January 8, 2021 #12 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Not necessarily related to Brexit, but related to delays at ports. Some of my suppliers have told me that they have containers on ships outside Felixstowe. They can't dock because there are 11,000 containers full of PPE that will be moved as needed along thousands of empty containers that can't be moved anywhere atm. These need to be released so that they can be sent to pick up more stock and bring it back. Shipping lines are reluctant to allocate containers to the UK due to problems at the ports and they have also trebled the cost of freight. So items I should be receiving now won't arrive till March. This is a mixed blessing as I have had to temporarily close my shop so at least I am not losing out on sales there but I am still trading online and it would be nice to have something new. Cathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Anarchy Posted January 8, 2021 #13 Share Posted January 8, 2021 46 minutes ago, Cathygh said: Not necessarily related to Brexit, but related to delays at ports. Some of my suppliers have told me that they have containers on ships outside Felixstowe. They can't dock because there are 11,000 containers full of PPE that will be moved as needed along thousands of empty containers that can't be moved anywhere atm. These need to be released so that they can be sent to pick up more stock and bring it back. Shipping lines are reluctant to allocate containers to the UK due to problems at the ports and they have also trebled the cost of freight. So items I should be receiving now won't arrive till March. This is a mixed blessing as I have had to temporarily close my shop so at least I am not losing out on sales there but I am still trading online and it would be nice to have something new. Cathy That's interesting. Earlier this week I booked the bike in for an MOT and some work that needs a few bits ordered. The parts guy said that some of the parts are supplied from Europe and usually their supplier for those bits guarantees delivery in 3 days, but currently that is taking longer due to delays at ports. He didn't know whether these delays were purely Brexit related. Seems to fit in with your experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted January 8, 2021 #14 Share Posted January 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Son of Anarchy said: That's interesting. Earlier this week I booked the bike in for an MOT and some work that needs a few bits ordered. The parts guy said that some of the parts are supplied from Europe and usually their supplier for those bits guarantees delivery in 3 days, but currently that is taking longer due to delays at ports. He didn't know whether these delays were purely Brexit related. Seems to fit in with your experience. There are now issues about VAT being paid on goods coming into the UK from the EU and vice versa, which is why many small UK and EU companies have pulled out of their respective export markets. Hopefully a VAT expert will be along shortly to explain the new system! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted January 8, 2021 #15 Share Posted January 8, 2021 For those wanting some light reading over the week end, here it is https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021/changes-to-vat-treatment-of-overseas-goods-sold-to-customers-from-1-january-2021 No wonder small businesses in the EU don't want to deal with the UK. This may not be a big deal, but on a day to day basis, specialist parts have to be imported that can not easily be sourced from with the UK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted January 8, 2021 #16 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Instead being shoved over the cliff edge, it seems like a slide down the slippery slope. Lots of reports now regarding the difficulties of exporting and importing, the huge leap in delivery costs, and the fact that traffic at Dover is much reduced as overseas hauliers just don’t want to come here, and Ireland is avoiding using the land bridge as they have new ferry routes direct to the EU. i also noted that Gove is predicting significant delays, at ports especially Dover/Calais, when (if) traffic picks up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted January 9, 2021 #17 Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Dermotsgirl said: Instead being shoved over the cliff edge, it seems like a slide down the slippery slope. Lots of reports now regarding the difficulties of exporting and importing, the huge leap in delivery costs, and the fact that traffic at Dover is much reduced as overseas hauliers just don’t want to come here, and Ireland is avoiding using the land bridge as they have new ferry routes direct to the EU. i also noted that Gove is predicting significant delays, at ports especially Dover/Calais, when (if) traffic picks up. The same Gove who said that the extra paperwork would be a useful training exercise for UK exporters! Would it be too difficult to find a politician who had actually worked in industry, exporting, importing , manufacturing etc, rather than all these "educated" types who gave no concept of reality? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted January 9, 2021 #18 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Amusing story this morning. LeavdotEU has had to move its registered office to the....... EU so it can continue using the EU part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted January 9, 2021 #19 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, davecttr said: Amusing story this morning. LeavdotEU has had to move its registered office to the....... EU so it can continue using the EU part Now that seems like the most unlikely item of fake news ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eddie99 Posted January 9, 2021 #20 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Is the Irish Times an authoritative enough source? https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/pro-brexit-campaign-leave-eu-relocates-to-waterford-1.4452308 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batholiver Posted January 9, 2021 Author #21 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Of course, it's all just Project Fear, isn't it..............🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted January 9, 2021 #22 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, terrierjohn said: Now that seems like the most unlikely item of fake news ever. It’s in the ‘you can’t make it up’ category. it’s ridiculous, but true 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Eddie99 Posted January 9, 2021 #23 Share Posted January 9, 2021 This Irish TD (MP) is not happy about it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted January 9, 2021 #24 Share Posted January 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, Eddie99 said: This Irish TD (MP) is not happy about it Good - I hope they get turfed out of Ireland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowzz Posted January 11, 2021 #25 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Anyone thinking of making their own sandwich in the buffet to eat ashore, take note. BBC News - Brexit: UK driver has ham sandwiches confiscated at Dutch borderhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55622331 I wonder if UK cruisers will now be faced with sniffer dogs when they go ashore, to make sure there are no ham sandwiches or apples hidden away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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