Impact of New CDC Guidance 6-Week 2nd Shot Interval

[Formula280SS]

Well, it is possible that this will impact the plans of potential cruisers that have expressed concerns about the time line between 1st and 2nd vaccinations and the cruise vaccination potential requirement or documentation.

 

"The second dose should be administered as close to the recommended interval as possible. However, if it is not feasible to adhere to the recommended interval, the second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines may be scheduled for administration up to 6 weeks (42 days) after the first dose. There are currently limited data on efficacy of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered beyond this window. If the second dose is administered beyond these intervals, there is no need to restart the series."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html

 

Not really a surprise by the CDC.  

 

Not sure if Pfizer and Moderna tests were based upon this, allow for this or recommend this.

 

It simply appears to be more of the same changing of the definitions, the change to reduce positive infections rates and cases by the level of the virus test threshold was first.  Now this.

[smokeybandit]

This same guidance turned out to be a disaster in the UK. Unbelievable that they'd do the same here

[Vera/Lee]

2 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

This same guidance turned out to be a disaster in the UK. Unbelievable that they'd do the same here

A lot of things that are happening are unbelievable!

[Formula280SS]

24 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

This same guidance turned out to be a disaster in the UK. Unbelievable that they'd do the same here

 

I didn't know that.  Did they continue (i.e., what is the current 2nd shot period)?

 

17 minutes ago, Vera/Lee said:

A lot of things that are happening are unbelievable!

 

Yep.

 

I know it's hard to understand in the states we're on a state-by-state basis of vaccination duties and responsibilities, but the projected vaccination dosages available and the number of registrations by phase appear to push out much longer than original disclosures.

 

For example, in the tiny state of New Hampshire, Phase 1b (65+ and those with 2 or more significant underlying conditions certified by Physician), 150,000 register in the first day.  With approximately 17,500 vaccines to be expected per week (given the 2 dose regimen), that calculates out to over 17 (seventeen) weeks from next week for the "current 1b's" to get vaccinated (almost end of May or first of June)!!!

 

Now, the state estimates that there are 300,000 total residents in 1b!  That adds another 17 weeks under the currently approved and available vaccines.  So, we'll even approach the start for the next phase and the midpoint of the population until the end of September or first of October!

 

Phase 1a ~ 110,000 High Risk Health Workers, 1st Responders and Adult Care Facilities

Phase 1b ~ 225,000 (now upgraded to 300,000) 65+ and Significant Medically Vulnerable

 

Phase 2a ~ 175,000 (now downgraded for 65-74 elevated to 1b) K-12 Teachers and Staff

Phase 2b ~ 200,000 50-65 Years Old

 

Phase 3a ~ 325,000 Medically Vulnerable <50

Phase 3b ~ 325,000 Everyone Else

 

 

[orville99]

On 1/23/2021 at 11:44 AM, Formula280SS said:

 

I didn't know that.  Did they continue (i.e., what is the current 2nd shot period)?

 

 

Yep.

 

I know it's hard to understand in the states we're on a state-by-state basis of vaccination duties and responsibilities, but the projected vaccination dosages available and the number of registrations by phase appear to push out much longer than original disclosures.

 

For example, in the tiny state of New Hampshire, Phase 1b (65+ and those with 2 or more significant underlying conditions certified by Physician), 150,000 register in the first day.  With approximately 17,500 vaccines to be expected per week (given the 2 dose regimen), that calculates out to over 17 (seventeen) weeks from next week for the "current 1b's" to get vaccinated (almost end of May or first of June)!!!

 

Now, the state estimates that there are 300,000 total residents in 1b!  That adds another 17 weeks under the currently approved and available vaccines.  So, we'll even approach the start for the next phase and the midpoint of the population until the end of September or first of October!

 

Phase 1a ~ 110,000 High Risk Health Workers, 1st Responders and Adult Care Facilities

Phase 1b ~ 225,000 (now upgraded to 300,000) 65+ and Significant Medically Vulnerable

 

Phase 2a ~ 175,000 (now downgraded for 65-74 elevated to 1b) K-12 Teachers and Staff

Phase 2b ~ 200,000 50-65 Years Old

 

Phase 3a ~ 325,000 Medically Vulnerable <50

Phase 3b ~ 325,000 Everyone Else

 

 

I would expect that the issues in New Hampshire are a combination of limited supply, dispersion of population (there's a lot of miles between population centers, and a relative lack of medical infrastructure (not hospitals per se, but hospitals that are equipped to handle the vaccines currently on the market). Throw in a typical New England winter, and even the best laid plans go out the window.

 

Even with all of that NH is doing better than a lot of states:

 

20. New Hampshire
Doses distributed to state: 162,950
Doses administered: 93,338
Percentage of distributed vaccines that have been administered: 57.28

[TheMastodon]

On 1/23/2021 at 10:59 AM, Formula280SS said:

Well, it is possible that this will impact the plans of potential cruisers that have expressed concerns about the time line between 1st and 2nd vaccinations and the cruise vaccination potential requirement or documentation.

 

"The second dose should be administered as close to the recommended interval as possible. However, if it is not feasible to adhere to the recommended interval, the second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines may be scheduled for administration up to 6 weeks (42 days) after the first dose. There are currently limited data on efficacy of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered beyond this window. If the second dose is administered beyond these intervals, there is no need to restart the series."

 

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considerations.html

 

Not really a surprise by the CDC.  

 

Not sure if Pfizer and Moderna tests were based upon this, allow for this or recommend this.

 

It simply appears to be more of the same changing of the definitions, the change to reduce positive infections rates and cases by the level of the virus test threshold was first.  Now this.

 

Thats because when you run a sh*T ton of cycles in a PCR test you can PICKUP DEAD VIRUS.  

[Bobal]

On 1/23/2021 at 4:18 PM, smokeybandit said:

This same guidance turned out to be a disaster in the UK. Unbelievable that they'd do the same here

 

Perhaps you could expand on that. Link please. I'm in the UK and know of no such 'disaster'

[yogimax]

On 1/23/2021 at 11:18 AM, smokeybandit said:

This same guidance turned out to be a disaster in the UK. Unbelievable that they'd do the same here

Curious... how was that guidance a disaster?

[smokeybandit]

OK, "disaster" might be hyperbole. 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/vaccine-delay-uk-should-cut-its-12-week-gap-between-doses-doctors-group-says/ar-BB1d1EjB

[yogimax]

1 minute ago, smokeybandit said:

OK, "disaster" might be hyperbole. 

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/vaccine-delay-uk-should-cut-its-12-week-gap-between-doses-doctors-group-says/ar-BB1d1EjB

So the British guidance was up to 12 weeks.  That's hugely different from the 6 week guidance from the CDC.

[smokeybandit]

But both are still beyond what the manufacturers ever tested again.

[Tree_skier]

So much for following the science. 

[jean87510]

54 minutes ago, orville99 said:

I would expect that the issues in New Hampshire are a combination of limited supply, dispersion of population (there's a lot of miles between population centers, and a relative lack of medical infrastructure (not hospitals per se, but hospitals that are equipped to handle the vaccines currently on the market). Throw in a typical New England winter, and even the best laid plans go out the window.

 

Even with all of that NH is doing better than a lot of states:

 

20. New Hampshire
Doses distributed to state: 162,950
Doses administered: 93,338
Percentage of distributed vaccines that have been administered: 57.28

interesting.  Do you have the link for this?  Id like to see other states.

[Formula280SS]

23 minutes ago, Tree_skier said:

So much for following the science. 

 

Until proven otherwise, or recommended by Pfizer and Moderna, IMO you are right and it is very disconcerting. 

[orville99]

37 minutes ago, jean87510 said:

interesting.  Do you have the link for this?  Id like to see other states.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-covid-19-vaccines-administered.html

[Icesk8rReedy]

Hey, at least you people don't live here in Alabama.  We rank the WORST in terms of vaccine distribution.  Ugh.