Rare MicCanberra Posted October 14, 2021 #626 Share Posted October 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, sewgood said: Amazing, I think that must be the best vaccination rate of a city in the world for first doses. Yes it is, In other good news, the TGA have gone through the first stage in approval process of the Pfizer vaccine for 5-12 year olds and it is looking good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted October 14, 2021 #627 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, sewgood said: Amazing, I think that must be the best vaccination rate of a city in the world for first doses. ACT people are intelligent as many work for the Federal Government, unlike some of those ferals up in Northern New South Wales, only 48% jabbed, plenty of anti vaxxers/alternate lifestyle people up there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pully8 Posted October 14, 2021 #628 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Hope we can soon get to the stage of booking an appointment with our GP to get all vaccines, especially the 3rd dose as protection from COVID19. If we had known it was going to take so long for borders to open we might have waited, since we were taking all other precautions and will likely continue to do so. Once the borders open it will be more risky. The double vaxxed effect might have diminished after several months, leaving many vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted October 14, 2021 #629 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I have read that the lasting effectiveness is better with AZ than the others, but either way a booster is likely in the future. The big question is whether it will be just the one booster like Hep A, or a booster like Tetanus every 5 years, or yearly like the flu shot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare lyndarra Posted October 14, 2021 #630 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: I have read that the lasting effectiveness is better with AZ than the others, but either way a booster is likely in the future. The big question is whether it will be just the one booster like Hep A, or a booster like Tetanus every 5 years, or yearly like the flu shot. I'm also hearing that AZ is outlasting Pfizer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted October 14, 2021 #631 Share Posted October 14, 2021 14 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: I have read that the lasting effectiveness is better with AZ than the others, but either way a booster is likely in the future. The big question is whether it will be just the one booster like Hep A, or a booster like Tetanus every 5 years, or yearly like the flu shot. The Brits are lining up for their 3rd jab or booster. I have a half sister who works in Southend Hospital, she just got her third one. I suppose the booster policy will flow on to here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Bay Posted October 14, 2021 #632 Share Posted October 14, 2021 NSW total 399 VIC 2179😟 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare onlyslightlymad Posted October 15, 2021 Author #633 Share Posted October 15, 2021 4 hours ago, By The Bay said: NSW total 399 VIC 2179😟 Poor Victoria. I feel very sad for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleFish1976 Posted October 16, 2021 #634 Share Posted October 16, 2021 On 10/15/2021 at 8:48 AM, lyndarra said: I'm also hearing that AZ is outlasting Pfizer. That doesn't accord with the research I've seen. The overall percentage of protection is lower with AZ after six months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted October 16, 2021 #635 Share Posted October 16, 2021 58 minutes ago, LittleFish1976 said: That doesn't accord with the research I've seen. The overall percentage of protection is lower with AZ after six months. I've also seen the opposite. Pfizer efficacy dropping after six months to equal AZ. There was an article on the ABC website a few days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted October 16, 2021 #636 Share Posted October 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, OzKiwiJJ said: I've also seen the opposite. Pfizer efficacy dropping after six months to equal AZ. There was an article on the ABC website a few days ago. That was one of the reports I had seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleFish1976 Posted October 16, 2021 #637 Share Posted October 16, 2021 2 hours ago, OzKiwiJJ said: I've also seen the opposite. Pfizer efficacy dropping after six months to equal AZ. There was an article on the ABC website a few days ago. I'll try to find the article I was reading the other day which researched this. That'll be a job for tomorrow though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted October 16, 2021 #638 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, LittleFish1976 said: I'll try to find the article I was reading the other day which researched this. That'll be a job for tomorrow though! Much easier to find articles about Pfizer efficacy dropping than it is with AZ efficacy dropping, 2 min Google search bought this (I’m partial to Australian data) - Pfizer dropped 22% faster than AZ - but saying this both drop off.https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/covid-19-vaccines-work-but-their-efficacy-fades-st But so far only seeing advice for Front Line and immuno compromised needing boosters as yet. Edited October 16, 2021 by Porky55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleFish1976 Posted October 17, 2021 #639 Share Posted October 17, 2021 16 hours ago, MicCanberra said: That was one of the reports I had seen. I haven't been able to find the article I was reading which had lots of interesting graphs and included data up to six months after second dose but I have found similar information for a three month period in a couple of places and I"ll put the link below. Basically, Pfizer falls by a greater percentage over three months but still has a higher rate of efficacy than AZ - so whilst I was very grateful to have the AZ and would take it any day, I'd rather have the higher protection of Pfizer - fingers crossed the booster shot for the over 60's will be announced soon, as age also factors into how well the vaccines work, especially over time. Pfizer went from 90-78% over three months after second dose and AZ went from 67-61% against infections. This article has slightly different figures; none of these figures are set in stone, of course. https://canberraweekly.com.au/oxford-study-finds-covid-19-vaccine-efficacy-wanes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted October 17, 2021 #640 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Maybe we should be taking both: Should you mix and match COVID-19 vaccines? Experts weigh in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted October 17, 2021 #641 Share Posted October 17, 2021 The suggested booster shot is that it is different to original 2 shots, from what I have read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted October 17, 2021 #642 Share Posted October 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, MicCanberra said: The suggested booster shot is that it is different to original 2 shots, from what I have read. Yes, that's what I've seen recommended too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted October 17, 2021 #643 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) So, we oldies who got the AZ double dose would get Pfizer or Moderna (mRNA) boosters - while those who waited patiently for Pfizer double dose would get AZ boosters - that’s here in Aus of course? Interesting 🤔 Edited October 17, 2021 by Porky55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OzKiwiJJ Posted October 17, 2021 #644 Share Posted October 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, Porky55 said: So, we oldies who got the AZ double dose would get Pfizer or Moderna (mRNA) boosters - while those who waited patiently for Pfizer double dose would get AZ boosters - that’s here in Aus of course? Interesting 🤔 Yes, those who got AZ would get one of the mRNA vaccines as a booster but I think I saw those who got Pfizer could get Moderna or AZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikeanswers Posted October 17, 2021 #645 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Porky55 said: So, we oldies who got the AZ double dose would get Pfizer or Moderna (mRNA) boosters - while those who waited patiently for Pfizer double dose would get AZ boosters - that’s here in Aus of course? Interesting 🤔 Depends. According to the studies in the article there was a dramatic increase in immune response from Pfizer booster after a course of AZ but the opposite wasn't as effective. In America a small study mixing mRNA vaccines didn't achieve a dramatic increase in immune response however those who had a J&J shot then a mRNA shot saw a huge increase in antibody activity but mRNA then J&J didn't do much. It seems we need way more research in terms of getting the most effective mix. But one thing the studies seem to suggest is mixing vaccine is so far pretty safe however we are talking pretty small studies.The research is really useful for developing countries to be able to mix vaccines, it would help with their supply issue though no one seems to have studied much about mixing the Russian and Chinese vaccines. So much still to learn🤓. Edited October 17, 2021 by ilikeanswers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillpickle48 Posted October 17, 2021 #646 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Australia has 51 million doses of Nonavax on order. It looks like this maybe used as a booster. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-13/when-is-the-novavax-vaccine-coming-to-australia-/100532184 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porky55 Posted October 18, 2021 #647 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, ilikeanswers said: It seems we need way more research in terms of getting the most effective mix. The other thing that also needs way more research is - what sectors of the population actually need boosters, will yearly boosters be required - and on it goes …… but as Novavax’s jab is a “spike protein” could be used as a booster for both the mRNA vaxes and AZ’s. Source: ABC News Novavax uses a traditional vaccine approach of using purified pieces of the coronavirus to spur an immune response in the body. The body can then make antibodies to the spike proteins that cover the coronavirus. Source: https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/how-will-novavax-fit-into-australia-s-covid-19-vac Booster or primary dose?The DoH says it is still considering whether the vaccine would be used as a primary dose or a booster. While the clinical trial – which used two doses of the vaccine – took place before the dominant Delta variant had fully emerged, the company reported trials in August suggesting it would also be an effective booster. Edited October 18, 2021 by Porky55 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted October 18, 2021 #648 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Great work Canberra. 99% one dose. 80% Double dosed. And thats over the age of 12! 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stki Posted October 18, 2021 #649 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 minute ago, MicCanberra said: Great work Canberra. 99% one dose. 80% Double dosed. And thats over the age of 12! So good 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSWP Posted October 18, 2021 #650 Share Posted October 18, 2021 UK reports just on 50,000 new cases and 45 deaths this past 24 hrs. Will we be the same when the restrictions are relaxed? Hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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