Confiscated on Anthem Today: “Cruise-Compliant” Non Surge Power Strip

[time4u2go]

1 minute ago, robtulipe said:

The link in post 45 above also pertains to not allowing power boards.

Yes it does. But I still don't see how the OP's item could be considered to be an extension cord since it has no cord. 

 

Anyway, what is a "power board"? 

[chengkp75]

8 minutes ago, time4u2go said:

Anyway, what is a "power board"?

Known in the US as a 'power strip".

[Engineroom Snipe]

On 3/18/2024 at 8:13 PM, soremekun said:

Found it.  June 2023 on Oasis of the Seas.

The Pot calling the Kettle a few names now.

 

One picture says a thousand words.

[time4u2go]

2 hours ago, chengkp75 said:

Known in the US as a 'power strip".

Would this rule for passengers mean that they aren't (shouldn't be?) in use anywhere on the ship, even by crew?

[chengkp75]

23 minutes ago, time4u2go said:

Would this rule for passengers mean that they aren't (shouldn't be?) in use anywhere on the ship, even by crew?

There is nothing inherently dangerous about using a non-surge protected power strip, or extension cord on a ship, it is just RCI's rule for passengers.  RCI can control crew, they have a much harder time controlling passengers, so they are more restrictive to passengers.  Also, crew use company approved, and inspected equipment.  Moreover, crew typically use a 220v power strip, which is designed for European use, and has a circuit breaker that interrupts both legs of the power, whereas US power strips only interrupt the "hot" leg, and in a shipboard application, this can lead to continued power to the power strip through the "neutral" leg.  This danger, from US consumer power strips when used on a ship, can be why RCI does not want any power strips to be used by passengers.

[time4u2go]

55 minutes ago, Engineroom Snipe said:

The Pot calling the Kettle a few names now.

 

One picture says a thousand words.

If that's a power strip and not a surge protector, then that is not a violation.

[Engineroom Snipe]

3 minutes ago, time4u2go said:

If that's a power strip and not a surge protector, then that is not a violation.

I only have an electrical degree, contractor, and inspector license in the State of New Jersey.

 

They all stop at the shoreline.

 

🤣.

 

They do not cover maritime design so I will leave it to @chengkp75's experience and knowledge in this discussion.

[PhillyFan33579]

6 hours ago, time4u2go said:

How do you consider the OP's item to be an extension cord?  It doesn't have a cord.

I was obviously confused. 

[TheMichael]

7 hours ago, Engineroom Snipe said:

The Pot calling the Kettle a few names now.

 

One picture says a thousand words.

 

Don't tell anyone, but I heard the crew also uses high-powered audio amplifiers, food cooking apparatus, and internal combustion engines.

 

They should never be allowed to ban those things ever again!

[soremekun]

9 hours ago, TheMichael said:

 

Don't tell anyone, but I heard the crew also uses high-powered audio amplifiers, food cooking apparatus, and internal combustion engines.

 

They should never be allowed to ban those things ever again!

I thought the plural form of apparatus would be apparati, similar to how the plural of octopus is octopi.  (also alumnus and alumni)

But from what I just researched, both "apparatuses" and "apparatus" are acceptable plural uses.

 

I apologize for the tangent.

[joepeka]

21 hours ago, chengkp75 said:

There is nothing inherently dangerous about using a non-surge protected power strip, or extension cord on a ship, it is just RCI's rule for passengers.  RCI can control crew, they have a much harder time controlling passengers, so they are more restrictive to passengers.  Also, crew use company approved, and inspected equipment.  Moreover, crew typically use a 220v power strip, which is designed for European use, and has a circuit breaker that interrupts both legs of the power, whereas US power strips only interrupt the "hot" leg, and in a shipboard application, this can lead to continued power to the power strip through the "neutral" leg.  This danger, from US consumer power strips when used on a ship, can be why RCI does not want any power strips to be used by passengers.

Chief: a question for you. Since some people may be concerned about their electronics being fried while on board, are power surges really very common at all on cruise ships? I would think that in a closed, controlled environment like a ship, surges would really be rare compared to at home or business where the electricity is coming from a large power company. Just curious.

Edited March 24 by joepeka

[chengkp75]

30 minutes ago, joepeka said:

Chief: a question for you. Since some people may be concerned about their electronics being fried while on board, are power surges really very common at all on cruise ships? I would think that in a closed, controlled environment like a ship, surges would really be rare compared to at home or business where the electricity is coming from a large power company. Just curious.

Power surges are virtually non-existent on ships.  Due to the floating ground (that causes problems with surge protectors) lightning strikes travel through the hull without affecting anything in the electrical system. And the ship doesn't use transformers like the land grid does. None of the ship's electronics are protected by surge protection,  and I've been on several ships that have received lightning strikes without any damage to anything electrical. 

[Fionat29]

Hi, sorry to jump on this post but do the cabins have any UK sockets or are they all us/ European.

Please and thank you. 

[ticketsunlimited]

4 minutes ago, Fionat29 said:

Hi, sorry to jump on this post but do the cabins have any UK sockets or are they all us/ European.

Please and thank you. 

They have both. Both Over the desk near TV usually and UK in the bathroom

[BallFour4]

On 3/18/2024 at 6:05 PM, ticketsunlimited said:

Know what you’re talking about before you make a comment like that. Those devices are legal with no surge protection...

OK, I'll play along. I suggest you read the updated Royal FAQ Page here:
https://www.royalcaribbean.com/faq/questions/prohibited-items-onboard-policy

There you will find the following text:

 

Q) What items are prohibited onboard a Royal Caribbean Cruise Ship?

A) Electrical Extension Cords, including power strips/surge protected strips.

 

Apparently they now prohibit extension cords of any type. I suggest the multi-outlet charger cubes as an option.

 

This change surprised me, I carry a 9' flat 3 wire cord in my CPAP case and have not been stopped on three cruises in the past year including the Icon.

 I guess I am a rebel rule breaker as I also carried a handheld ham radio. Aboard the ship I used it on digital mode via my phone and a hotspot, and on 2 meter mode in Alaska, but nonetheless I am a cruise criminal.

See you at sea.

 

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[ONECRUISER]

1 hour ago, ticketsunlimited said:

They have both. Both Over the desk near TV usually and UK in the bathroom

Do they on all Royal Ships? 

[ticketsunlimited]

Just now, ONECRUISER said:

Do they on all Royal Ships? 

ONECRUISER, You been at it longer than me.  You can probably name all that do. Most of the ships I have sailed on have both

[ONECRUISER]

6 minutes ago, ticketsunlimited said:

ONECRUISER, You been at it longer than me.  You can probably name all that do. Most of the ships I have sailed on have both

One that hit me was Bathroom, in my head thought was only one US on older Ships. Could be wrong though, so thought add to thread see for sure

[Tree_skier]

2 hours ago, Fionat29 said:

Hi, sorry to jump on this post but do the cabins have any UK sockets or are they all us/ European.

Please and thank you. 

 

2 hours ago, ticketsunlimited said:

They have both. Both Over the desk near TV usually and UK in the bathroom

I'm certainly not disputing this but I've never noticed the UK one in the bathroom.  Where is it typically located?

[ticketsunlimited]

8 minutes ago, Tree_skier said:

 

I'm certainly not disputing this but I've never noticed the UK one in the bathroom.  Where is it typically located?

TREE , plug for razors in bathroom are usually above the top shelf around the mirror in the top left corner.  If I remember right they are the European outlets.  I am pretty sure that Icon has the US outlets now 

[Tree_skier]

48 minutes ago, ticketsunlimited said:

TREE , plug for razors in bathroom are usually above the top shelf around the mirror in the top left corner.  If I remember right they are the European outlets.  I am pretty sure that Icon has the US outlets now 

 

OK... I use a regular razor not an electric so that must be why I never noticed it.

I've seen Euro outlets, usually above the desk next to the US plug... I have Euro travel adapters that I bought off Amazon I bring along to utilize that extra plug.  I was wondering if I now could bring UK travel adapter and have yet another plug in the room. 🙂 

 

Since I'm getting confused (easily done)... Is the bathroom plug above the top shelf a Euro plug or a UK plug?

[mjldvlks]

I find it somewhat interesting (and kind of humorous) that in a thread arguing what does or doesn’t comply with Royal’s rules it took until post 45 before someone linked to an actual rule (albeit from an Australian site) and until post 65 until someone actually quoted the rule that (according to my search) is currently posted on the main website available in the US. Note the two versions are worded differently. 
 

I have always understood the rule to be as stated in post 65 above. And I read that version to say a device that has no extension cord and no surge protector is compliant.  If that’s not what they mean, they should be more clear. Under that or similar wording, I have been bringing a block type device (that at least represents it has not surge protector) in my carry on for a couple of years believing I was fully compliant. If they maintain that wording and confiscate my block, it will be one more nail in the coffin containing my former loyalty to Royal. 

[Ergates The Ant]

I’m pretty sure there is never a 3pin UK socket in the bathroom. Maybe the poster is thinking of the 2 pin shaver / toothbrush socket in the bathroom?

[Jasukkie]

Revenue idea. Add charging lockers around the ship, ka-ching.

[c-leg5]

5 hours ago, Ergates The Ant said:

I’m pretty sure there is never a 3pin UK socket in the bathroom. Maybe the poster is thinking of the 2 pin shaver / toothbrush socket in the bathroom?

+1

From FAQ

Q

What electrical plug sockets are there on Royal Caribbean ships?

A

All of our Royal Caribbean ships are equipped with North American standard, 110 volts AC and standard European 220/230 volts AC plug outlets.