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#1
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Joined Sep 2010
Will a tip be automatically added to the bar bill, or will we want to be tipping in cash?
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#3
305 Posts
Joined Sep 2010
Originally posted by KeithJenner
Yes, a tip is automatically added. I believe it has just increased to 20%

For future reference, the drinks package is the UBP, not UDP.


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#4
5,116 Posts
Joined May 2009
And using percentage instead of a flat tip per drink is getting really expensive. Some of these drinks are hitting the $18 mark. 20% is $3.60. That runs that drink's price up to about $21.60. These drinks are not that large. Very few bartenders anywhere get $3.60 tip per drink, drink after drink, making several dozen an hour. Of course, the bartenders aren't getting this from NCL either. At 20 drinks per hour in that price range, that's about $70 and hour in just tips. Of course many drinks are just $10 or so. That would only be an extra $40 an hour earned in tips (or more correctly identified as profit padding). I kinda equate this to an auto dealership profit padding a car sale with a $600 documentary fee. Charge what you wish and what the market will bear, but be honest as to what the extra fees actually are. My opinion........
#7
937 Posts
Joined Jan 2010
Yes, there is an auto tip on each drink purchased.. HOWEVER.. throwing the server a buck every once in a while (doesn't have to be every drink) goes a LONG way with them. They will remember you. They will take care of you. This is especially important when it's real busy, and people are waiting forever for drinks. They will go out of their way to take care of you.
#8
245 Posts
Joined Feb 2016
95%, that's because the POS would require too much coding to flat rate the gratuity. It's easier to say 20% on everything.

Keep in mind, POS collected tips, and gratuity charge on the UBP is pooled. If you want to actually tip the bartender, carry cash.
#10
Kawerau NZ
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Joined Aug 2015
Daily Service Charge, then 20% on the package or the (well overpriced) individual drinks and then a tip as well!!!!!!! HELP
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#11
Toronto, Canada
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Joined Aug 2017
This is my plan for my cruise in January:
- Go to guest services and ditch my service charge, saying I prefer to tip in cash.
- Carry a stack of onesies
- leave $1 or more in tips at My discretion to bartenders, tablemaids and room stewards as I deem necessary and if I can afford it.
#12
Kawerau NZ
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This is my plan for my cruise in January:
- Go to guest services and ditch my service charge, saying I prefer to tip in cash.
- Carry a stack of onesies
- leave $1 or more in tips at My discretion to bartenders, tablemaids and room stewards as I deem necessary and if I can afford it.



This may not work to your advantage. If you do not pay the DSC then individual tips have to (should) be put in the "pot" by the recipient till the DSC has been reached. Any tip when that has been reached then goes to the individual.
I bet the message quickly goes round from the Guest Services staff as to who has ditched the DSC. While NCL creams some of the DSC the rest of the staff do reasonably well from what is left.
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#10,11 Mar 16 Buenos Aires-San Francisco Sun
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#13
Florida
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Joined Apr 2016
Originally posted by marktwothousand
This is my plan for my cruise in January:
- Go to guest services and ditch my service charge, saying I prefer to tip in cash.
- Carry a stack of onesies
- leave $1 or more in tips at My discretion to bartenders, tablemaids and room stewards as I deem necessary and if I can afford it.
If you don't have the UBP and buy a drink, you will still be charged the 20%. And if you do have the UBP, You have already paid the 20%. The daily service charge/tips etc do not go to the bar staff they go to room stewards, dining service and behind the scenes. You are confusing 2 different things here.
#14
Toronto, Canada
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Joined Aug 2017
Are you serious, they share my information with staff if I Remove my daily? That’s an invasion of privacy. Maybe I’ll wait until the last day to remove the charge then, to ensure they don’t see me “flagged” and do poor housekeeping in my room.

Wow. I am just stunned that they would even do such a thing
#16
Kawerau NZ
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That’s an invasion of privacy.
Wow. I am just stunned that they would even do such a thing

But you have told all of us you intend to do it so there is no condition of privacy for them to break!!
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#10,11 Mar 16 Buenos Aires-San Francisco Sun
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#14 Jun 17 Round Britain Caribbean Princess
#15 Jul 17 Dover-New York Sea Princess (Via North Norway & Iceland)
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#17
Atlanta, GA
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Joined Apr 2014
The DSC has nothing to do with the gratuity charge for the UBP. In addition, NCL no longer allows you to just "remove gratuities" on the spot anymore... You must fill out a form and wait for a refund, likely weeks after you return. You'll only be stiffing the hard working staff, as well as being cheap...
Originally posted by marktwothousand
Are you serious, they share my information with staff if I Remove my daily? That’s an invasion of privacy. Maybe I’ll wait until the last day to remove the charge then, to ensure they don’t see me “flagged” and do poor housekeeping in my room.

Wow. I am just stunned that they would even do such a thing
#19
Kawerau NZ
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Joined Aug 2015
Thanks for clearing up how to go about it. I have never done it and have no intention of doing so but assumed the poster knew what he was talking about when he was going to remove the DSC, it seems I was wrong!!
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Previous Cruises:-
#1 Sep 13 Alaska Sapphire Princess
#2 Mar 14 Hawai'i PoA
#3,4,5 Oct 14 Vancouver-Panama-Miami-Bahamas Pearl
#6,7 May 15 Norway & Baltic Star
#8,9 Sep 15 Quebec-Boston-Quebec Dawn
#10,11 Mar 16 Buenos Aires-San Francisco Sun
#12,13 Oct 16 Rome-Singapore Star

#14 Jun 17 Round Britain Caribbean Princess
#15 Jul 17 Dover-New York Sea Princess (Via North Norway & Iceland)
#16 Sep 17 Honolulu-Pape'ete Jewel
#17 Oct 17 Pape'ete-Sydney Jewel



April 18 Yokohama-Shanghai Jewel
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Sep 18 Round Australia Sea Princess
#20
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Joined Apr 2007
WRONG!!!!

I had a problem that took three days to get fixed so I reduced the DSC this November. No forms. No delays.

The Steward also tried to get someone to fix it without success. I asked if cash tips had to be turned in because I reduced the DSC,and I was assured that was not the case on NCL. They get to keep cash tips so that is how I handled the problem