Update on the new Seabourn smoking policy: Live from Quest

[Pop-I]

I can avoid second hand smoke, but too often overwhelming perfume permeates. Once in my nostrils, yiccch. Ever wonder why it is that the bad smelling perfume is the one that ladies (and gents) love to douse in. The nicer scents are oh so subtle.

[Flamin_June]

I can avoid second hand smoke, but too often overwhelming perfume permeates. Once in my nostrils, yiccch. Ever wonder why it is that the bad smelling perfume is the one that ladies (and gents) love to douse in. The nicer scents are oh so subtle.

 

 

It's not the scent but the scenter. People with poorly developed aesthetic intelligence will tend to acquire the more garish scents and then proceed to drench themselves. On the other hand, those with a more refined and sensitive approach to things ( some call it 'class') will not only choose more understated scents but will also be aware that the idea is to apply the scents so that they are only shared by those in close or intimate contact.

[Mr Luxury]

This must be a first.

A smoking thread that has morphed into a perfume thread and how some people with no taste buy cheap muck.:D

Edited May 24, 2014 by Mr Luxury

[Flamin_June]

some people with no taste buy cheap muck.:D

 

As always, concise and to the point....

Edited May 24, 2014 by Flamin_June

[Tothesunset]

And does anyone else feel nauseated by the overpowering stench of alcohol in the bar? There should be a sealed, air-conditioned space for those who cannot live without their alcohol fix.

Edited May 24, 2014 by Tothesunset

[Mr Luxury]

And does anyone else feel nauseated by the overpowering stench of alcohol in the bar? There should be a sealed, air-conditioned space for those who cannot live without their alcohol fix.

 

I vote that we name the room after you:D

[wripro]

And a sealed, air conditioned space for those who need their chocolate fix. Soon there'll be no public spaces left on board, only interest specific closed off venues. Here's an idea. Why doesn't everyone just stay in his cabin and do what he wants. Except on the verandah, of course. And except smoking. Or wearing too much foul smelling perfume. Or eating or drinking too much.

[Mr Luxury]

And a sealed, air conditioned space for those who need their chocolate fix. Soon there'll be no public spaces left on board, only interest specific closed off venues. Here's an idea. Why doesn't everyone just stay in his cabin and do what he wants. Except on the verandah, of course. And except smoking. Or wearing too much foul smelling perfume. Or eating or drinking too much.

 

That leaves just Sex then.:)

[zich6]

... and given how patient Seabourn's many loyal guests continue to be (as evidenced by the many active cruisers of this thread), it really can only be a matter of time that Seabourn acknowledges our forbearance and bans smoking in the Observation Bar and on balconies.

 

Under that scenario we will have a happy ending to this thread with its thousands and thousands of views.

 

Happy sailing!

 

If I understand you correctly, how many of the "thousands" you mention did the smoking issue bother enough to comment here? It's not thousands, nor hundreds and may be barely tens (I'm to lazy to count). How can you conclude that "thousands" will be happy with smoking banned in the Observation Bar and on balconies? Since we've established that those here are a tiny fraction of the total PAX, I'm not even sure the majority of PAX would agree with your statement. We do know what we don't know and that is what percentage of PAX smoke. Without that I'm not sure I would draw conclusions about what would make any number of people happy, other than those who stated so in this thread. Look, we all very know you're one of the most vocal and strident anti-smokers here. But as been said "you're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts."

 

IMHO, here is what is likely to happen to the smoking policy. Seabourn changed their smoking policy rather recently. To change it again soon would be admitting they didn't get it right. I don't know of any people who would agree that good companies frequently? Therefore, IMHO, the Seabourn smoking policy isn't changing anytime soon.

 

I know you disagree and I respect your right not to.

 

As you've said, time will tell and it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong.

[MrsWaldo]

That leaves just Sex then.:)

 

Ah, but then you need to be non exclusive and consider those of us who do not have partners….

 

Therefore any form of physical contact should be banned in public areas, except for the front of deck 6 and in the Spa area ;)

[zich6]

Ah, but then you need to be non exclusive and consider those of us who do not have partners….

 

Therefore any form of physical contact should be banned in public areas, except for the front of deck 6 and in the Spa area ;)

 

I'm sure I speak for Mr. Lux when I say that he fully supports inclusiveness, especially those that are unattached, as we say in the US.

[lincslady]

Apart from the anti-smoking people who inhabit this board (and I am one), I notice whenever we are on a ship the subject tends to come up (not introduced by me!) and the great majority who we speak to, who probably do not even know about CC, say they dislike being near smokers and wish the policy would change.

 

We cruise Seabourn at least twice a year, and on the ships with 450 or so on board there are rarely more than 10 smokers.

[zich6]

Apart from the anti-smoking people who inhabit this board (and I am one), I notice whenever we are on a ship the subject tends to come up (not introduced by me!) and the great majority who we speak to, who probably do not even know about CC, say they dislike being near smokers and wish the policy would change.

 

We cruise Seabourn at least twice a year, and on the ships with 450 or so on board there are rarely more than 10 smokers.

 

So, you know of every person that smokes only on their balcony on both sides of the ship?

[Mr Luxury]

Ah, but then you need to be non exclusive and consider those of us who do not have partners….

 

Therefore any form of physical contact should be banned in public areas, except for the front of deck 6 and in the Spa area ;)

 

Many a ship romance has started with an invite to a hosted table for singles;)

Edited May 25, 2014 by Mr Luxury

[Mr Luxury]

I'm sure I speak for Mr. Lux when I say that he fully supports inclusiveness, especially those that are unattached, as we say in the US.

 

I'll let you speak for me just this once.

[Mr Luxury]

So, you know of every person that smokes only on their balcony on both sides of the ship?

 

To back up what lincslady says I would say that the figure is not too far away from this.

It's a small ship and if you put yourself around a bit you soon realise who is doing whom and what?

 

I would say that more crew smoke than guests

Edited May 25, 2014 by Mr Luxury

[lincslady]

I agree about more crew than guests smoking. No, of course there might be people who only smoke on their balcony, but I have a strong feeling that on a lovely day most smokers would spend some of their time at least at the Sky Bar, socialising and having their drinks served to them and checking the all round view.

[tv24]

I agree about more crew than guests smoking. No, of course there might be people who only smoke on their balcony, but I have a strong feeling that on a lovely day most smokers would spend some of their time at least at the Sky Bar, socialising and having their drinks served to them and checking the all round view.

 

I think lincslady has her finger on the pulse of the Seabourn passenger profile. There are not that many smokers on board, and there are a lot of folks who express their negative concerns regarding Seabourn's smoking policies. Of course no one has taken a scientific poll, and no one will.

[zich6]

No one knows how many people smoke on board, not even Seabourn.

[vi1234]

My husband and I have never sailed on Seabourn specifically because of the smoking policy. We sail Regent (just returned from a 21 day cruise with no smoking problem). We sail Crystal. I have looked longingly at some of the Seabourn offerings, but will not take the gamble of having a smoker in the ajoining balcony. That happen to us once years ago and it spoiled the cruise. I could tolerate not using the Oberservation Lounge after 8PM, but am not willing to tolerate smoke invading my private space. I have many friends who feel the same.

[zich6]

From a recent cruise review:

 

"My husband and I were on the Seabourn Quest - April 29- May 13- Gems of Western Europe- 14 day cruise.

 

I see how sometimes people on these boards complain about the food. I was honestly concerned after reading some of the forums before we left for the cruise. Speaking to other passengers on our cruise- 90% of the passengers never heard of Cruise Critic. "

 

As has been said, this community is a very small fraction of SB Pax.

Edited May 30, 2014 by zich6

[Kevnzworld]

I just exited the Quest on a 12 night Baltic cruise. I've sailed on just two other lines, Regent five times and Celebrity a dozen or so.

Both of the other lines have strict smoking policies, and smoking is still a constant topic on their CC message boards.

I didn't find the " smoke " on the Quest that noticeable or offensive, and I HATE the smell of cigarette smoke. There is one lady, she has 3000 nights on Seabourn on her resume, that actively smokes on the ship. She lights up at 8pm in the Observation bar. She lives on deck 5, so there is smoke smell in that hallway near the cabins. Anyone that lives on a Seabourn ship and is in their '80's is my hero so I'll give her a pass.

That being said, the smoking policy did come up a few times as I sat around the Observation lounge bar talking to other passengers. Most wish that Seabourn would just ban it. I'm ok with the current policy.

And BTW, the food was great. Seabourn will be my cruise line beginning next year.

[Roxburgh]

I just exited the Quest on a 12 night Baltic cruise. I've sailed on just two other lines, Regent five times and Celebrity a dozen or so.

Both of the other lines have strict smoking policies, and smoking is still a constant topic on their CC message boards.

I didn't find the " smoke " on the Quest that noticeable or offensive, and I HATE the smell of cigarette smoke. There is one lady, she has 3000 nights on Seabourn on her resume, that actively smokes on the ship. She lights up at 8pm in the Observation bar. She lives on deck 5, so there is smoke smell in that hallway near the cabins. Anyone that lives on a Seabourn ship and is in their '80's is my hero so I'll give her a pass.

That being said, the smoking policy did come up a few times as I sat around the Observation lounge bar talking to other passengers. Most wish that Seabourn would just ban it. I'm ok with the current policy.

And BTW, the food was great. Seabourn will be my cruise line beginning next year.

 

John - Observation Lounge pianist - played Smoke Gets in Your Eyes - a few times at 7.55pm on that cruise (which I was also on).

 

Did you try the Indian Market? Just incredible!!!!

[Ravenscroft]

john - observation lounge pianist - played smoke gets in your eyes - a few times at 7.55pm on that cruise (which i was also on).

 

 

 

 

:D

 

And I imagine his point was missed by the smoker!

Edited May 30, 2014 by Ravenscroft

[wripro]

He should sing it, only change the word eyes to lungs!