geocruiser Posted January 26, 2020 #1 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) I just thought you might want to see some of the most beautiful ships of the past. Niew Amsterdam Class of Passengers: First and Second Cabin Date of Departure: 20 June 1908 Route: Rotterdam to New York via Boulogne-sur-Mer Commander: Captain H. C. Van Der Zee Rotterdam Class of Passengers: Cabin Date of Departure: 15 October 1914 Route: Rotterdam to New York Commander: Commodore G. Stenger Rotterdam Class of Passengers: Cabin Date of Departure: 12 July 1921 Route: Rotterdam to New York via Boulogne-sur-Mer and Plymouth Commander: Commodore J. Baron Potsdam Class of Passengers: First and Second Cabin Date of Departure: 18 September 1909 Route: Rotterdam to New York via Boulogne-sur-Mer Commander: Captain G. Bruinsma Chief-Officer: Hartogh Heys Chief-Engineer: Van Steenwyk Purser: Hopman Chief-Steward: Le Jeune Physician: Dr. Meade Physician: Dr. Van Renken Stam Edited January 26, 2020 by geocruiser 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted January 26, 2020 #2 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Magical! Thank you for posting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geocruiser Posted January 26, 2020 Author #3 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) Here is another beautiful HAL ship, that I never heard of. SS Spaarndam Passenger List - 7 September 1899 Senior Officers and Staff Captain: G. Stenger, Commander Chief Officer: Van den Heuvel Chief Engineer: Sauer Physician: Dr. Harrington Purser: Spruyt Chief Steward: Vogelzang SS Spaarndam Edited January 26, 2020 by geocruiser 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geocruiser Posted January 26, 2020 Author #4 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) Here is another ship I never heard of. The M.V. Sibajak chartered by the Holland-America Line, Departing 31 August 1954 from Rotterdam to New York Senior Officers and Staff Captain: H. Rijnbergen Chief Officer: J. H. GRAUENKAMP Chief Radiostation: J. NESSELAAR Chief Engineer: H. FROLING Physician: P. G. VERTIN Purser: W. DEKKING Chief Steward: J. M. TRIJSBURG Edited January 26, 2020 by geocruiser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare VMax1700 Posted January 26, 2020 #5 Share Posted January 26, 2020 That is Spaarndam I (1890 - 1901). There was a second Spaarndam 1922 - 1939. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted January 26, 2020 #6 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Wonderful pictures. Thank you for sharing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeniEncinitas Posted January 26, 2020 #7 Share Posted January 26, 2020 WOW GREAT VINTAGE PICTURES! Denise😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted January 26, 2020 #8 Share Posted January 26, 2020 For anyone cruising on the current Rotterdam, the forward stairwell on the lower decks has mounted deck plans of previous ships that were called Rotterdam. It is interesting to start with the oldest ship and look at the evolution of deck layouts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer slope Posted January 26, 2020 #9 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Will definitely check those out in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted January 26, 2020 #10 Share Posted January 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, Homosassa said: For anyone cruising on the current Rotterdam, the forward stairwell on the lower decks has mounted deck plans of previous ships that were called Rotterdam. It is interesting to start with the oldest ship and look at the evolution of deck layouts. That's so interesting! I also love to look for Stephen Card's paintings of HAL ships, especially when there are previous ones with the same name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ski ww Posted January 26, 2020 #11 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Very interesting, thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare kazu Posted January 26, 2020 #12 Share Posted January 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Homosassa said: For anyone cruising on the current Rotterdam, the forward stairwell on the lower decks has mounted deck plans of previous ships that were called Rotterdam. It is interesting to start with the oldest ship and look at the evolution of deck layouts. Love those on the Rotterdam, the Stephen Card paintings and the art and statues on board. Thanks OP for the thread and the great pics 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Pete Cruiser Posted January 26, 2020 #13 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Yes, thanks. The NS is the first HAL ship I've been on to NOT have any of the old ships pictured. Sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USN59-79 Posted January 26, 2020 #14 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Those passenger lists are interesting. Can anyone remember the last time they were given out on a Holland America cruise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted January 26, 2020 #15 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I remember them on a Royal Viking cruise in 1990, and believe that was my first experience seeing one on a cruise. My next cruise was on HAL in 1992, and I don't recall one then---or since. so, I suspect passenger lists on HAL predate my time on the line, which started in 1978. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bnxshs Posted January 27, 2020 #16 Share Posted January 27, 2020 7 hours ago, geocruiser said: Here is another beautiful HAL ship, that I never heard of. SS Spaarndam Passenger List - 7 September 1899 Senior Officers and Staff Captain: G. Stenger, Commander Chief Officer: Van den Heuvel Chief Engineer: Sauer Physician: Dr. Harrington Purser: Spruyt Chief Steward: Vogelzang SS Spaarndam Wow! My great-grandmother (my father's father's mother) immigrated to the US on this very ship in 1893. Much of my family immigrated from the Netherlands between the 1880s and early 1900s, all on various ships of NASM and HAL. Thanks for the great finds! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL Sailer Posted January 27, 2020 #17 Share Posted January 27, 2020 During our mid-Nov 2019 NA cruise, the cruise director narrated a multi-media mainstage presentation on the history of HAL from cargo shipper to passenger cruise ships including, of course, the era when HAL transported immigrants. It was a well done presentation and some of the best 'entertainment' during our cruise. I can't remember its title but I would guess it is offered fleetwide. On another thread, a poster said they left when the plague was mentioned as that wasn't what the poster wanted to hear about on vacation. To each their own. We found it interesting and informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffElizabeth Posted January 27, 2020 #18 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Cool thread! The Spaarndam needs to be the name for the next Holland American ship! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geocruiser Posted January 27, 2020 Author #19 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, 0bnxshs said: Wow! My great-grandmother (my father's father's mother) immigrated to the US on this very ship in 1893. Much of my family immigrated from the Netherlands between the 1880s and early 1900s, all on various ships of NASM and HAL. Thanks for the great finds! I was looking up passengers list for immigration when I found this today. Di you go to the site to see if they have their names on the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geocruiser Posted January 27, 2020 Author #20 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) Check out the dinner menu on Noordam. https://www.gjenvick.com/OceanTravel/VintageMenus/Dinner/Noordam-1907-06-20-DinnerMenu.html Ryndam https://www.gjenvick.com/OceanTravel/VintageMenus/Dinner/Ryndam-1922-10-11-DinnerMenu.html SS Veedam is below Edited January 27, 2020 by geocruiser 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0bnxshs Posted January 27, 2020 #21 Share Posted January 27, 2020 9 hours ago, geocruiser said: I was looking up passengers list for immigration when I found this today. Di you go to the site to see if they have their names on the list? It doesn't appear that the site has passenger lists going back far enough or of the voyages my ancestors took, but I will keep checking. Thanks again for the reference to the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geocruiser Posted January 27, 2020 Author #22 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, 0bnxshs said: It doesn't appear that the site has passenger lists going back far enough or of the voyages my ancestors took, but I will keep checking. Thanks again for the reference to the website. I can't find my uncle's list either. I am trying to find out why he took a ship fro Harve to the US. He sailed on the ship named Paris. He live in Mola di Bari Italy and Harve France is a long way to go to catch a ship. The web site has a lot of info on ocean voyages. Lots of good reading there. Even a section on the Captains of the past. I enjoyed the in on HAL there. I think some of the old menus or PAX list covers would look great in a frame to hang on my wall. The were a work of art. Edited January 27, 2020 by geocruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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