Formula280SS Posted October 26, 2020 #1 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Warning - Level 3, Avoid Nonessential Travel. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/warning/coronavirus-cruise-ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d9704011 Posted October 26, 2020 #2 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Breaking news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don't-use-real-name Posted October 26, 2020 #3 Share Posted October 26, 2020 NOTE dates on the "Breaking News" document - perhaps OLD news ? Extension Dates April 9 2020 - July 16 2020 - September 30 - something NEW for October/November ? In any event you ain't sailing until the CDC issues a Health Travel release of sorts ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger001 Posted October 26, 2020 #4 Share Posted October 26, 2020 If I read it right, that is from almost 8 months ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted October 26, 2020 #5 Share Posted October 26, 2020 This article was published today https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23757-cdc-defer-all-cruise-travel.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted October 26, 2020 #6 Share Posted October 26, 2020 ~ sigh ~ "This notice was originally posted March 17, 2020." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted October 26, 2020 #7 Share Posted October 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said: This article was published today https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23757-cdc-defer-all-cruise-travel.html That's just quoting the same old CDC warning that the OP posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmom Posted October 26, 2020 #8 Share Posted October 26, 2020 What I found interesting in the article from October 26th is that they are issuing an advisory to not sail on cruise ships. They aren't saying that cruise ships can't sail or that the no-sail order has been extended. Sort of like when the US issues an advisory to not visit certain countries, but isn't necessarily forbidding it. I just find the wording interesting and wonder if it means that cruises may start up at some point soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formula280SS Posted October 26, 2020 Author #9 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, d9704011 said: Breaking news! 14 minutes ago, don't-use-real-name said: NOTE dates on the "Breaking News" document - perhaps OLD news ? Extension Dates April 9 2020 - July 16 2020 - September 30 - something NEW for October/November ? In any event you ain't sailing until the CDC issues a Health Travel release of sorts ! 11 minutes ago, roger001 said: If I read it right, that is from almost 8 months ago. 6 minutes ago, ColeThornton said: ~ sigh ~ "This notice was originally posted March 17, 2020." Please, the CDC is "updating" its' warning, as per announcement quotes today from large number of sources. When "updating" they reference "previous warnings and levels." Hence, some may be confused. I have no idea why, but it could be disagreement over extending the NSO so they want to forcefully advise (i.e., "warning") against such to emphasize their point. Edited October 26, 2020 by Formula280SS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ColeThornton Posted October 26, 2020 #10 Share Posted October 26, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Formula280SS said: Please, the CDC is "updating" its' warning, as per announcement quotes today from large number of sources. When "updating" they reference "previous warnings and levels." Hence, some may be confused. I have no idea why, but it could be disagreement over extending the NSO so they want to forcefully advise (i.e., "warning") against such to emphasize their point. But is there anything new from when it was previously posted? Everyone already knows about their previous warnings. Not trying to be snarky but it's frustrating for those waiting to find out if their sailings will occur. Edited October 26, 2020 by ColeThornton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nclcruise1415 Posted October 26, 2020 #11 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Old News... or Updated Old News... Whichever you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formula280SS Posted October 26, 2020 Author #12 Share Posted October 26, 2020 37 minutes ago, ColeThornton said: But is there anything new from when it was previously posted? Everyone already knows about their previous warnings. Not trying to be snarky but it's frustrating for those waiting to find out if their sailings will occur. The link on the CDC website (referenced in the dozens of outlets today) re: the Warning Level leads to the explanation of what the risks are at that level. It was issued internally October 21, 2020 per the CDC website. I don't know if the previous warnings, by issue date, expired (which I doubt) or if they are re-emphasizing the CDC position on cruises because they are somehow precluded by issuing a new NSO. Just reporting what was in the news. 24 minutes ago, Nclcruise1415 said: Old News... or Updated Old News... Whichever you prefer. October 21, 2020. Best I can do is just provide the links and illustrate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Dave Posted October 26, 2020 #13 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Have there been any actual cases on the cruises that are currently sailing in Europe and the Far East? Every article I read about passengers or crew testing positive on those cruises was the result of rapid tests, which were then followed up with PCR tests that all came back negative. Or is the CDC just using the data from the cases on Princess and other lines back in March to continue their advisory? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhorseman Posted October 26, 2020 #14 Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 hours ago, GA Dave said: Have there been any actual cases on the cruises that are currently sailing in Europe and the Far East? Every article I read about passengers or crew testing positive on those cruises was the result of rapid tests, which were then followed up with PCR tests that all came back negative. Or is the CDC just using the data from the cases on Princess and other lines back in March to continue their advisory? This article states there recently were positives aboard a chartered Costa ship . There is nothing in the article that states or suggests that the test results were later determined to be false positives: https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5666/ October 19, 2020 Chris Gray Faust Managing Editor (10:55 a.m. EDT) --" Health and safety protocols developed by Costa Cruises seem to have contained a COVID-19 outbreak on a recent charter cruise, but the line has canceled a subsequent sailing on the ship, out of an abundance of caution." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger001 Posted October 27, 2020 #15 Share Posted October 27, 2020 There is nothing in today's news that suggests anything good, not for Europe or the US. It is increasing at an explosive rate. Cruises will not be happening anytime soon, protocols or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formula280SS Posted October 27, 2020 Author #16 Share Posted October 27, 2020 7 hours ago, BirdTravels said: Not new. Old warning with a few updates. The guidance has not changed. If you read all the way to the bottom you would have seen that it dates back to the start of the COVID shutdowns. If you go back a post of mine I clearly explained the matter and gave a screenshot of the CDC website with the noted date. Yes, it is a new warning that refers to a "level" (3 in this case) which, since March is a static definition. The updated warning "to that level 3" (from "level 2") was October 21, 2020, regardless if the definition of level 3 is the same as it was in March. There was no inference that the definition, terms and conditions of the CDC warning level has changed; rather, that the CDC has reissued its' update to level 3 (and continues to uniquely refer to an "activity," i.e., cruising, in its warning as usually it does such regarding countries and destinations). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macandlucy Posted October 28, 2020 #17 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) A thought occurred to me. Is the CDC elevating its warning level to Level 3 because they expect that they will be encouraged/pressured into not extending the No Sail order? And so they elevate the warning level to convey the "we still don't think cruising is a good idea right now" message, despite no official ban being in place? Edited October 28, 2020 by macandlucy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger001 Posted October 28, 2020 #18 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Princess Cruises announced on Tuesday that it will suspend sailings departing from Australia and New Zealand through the end of May. Everything keeps getting pushed farther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BermudaBound2014 Posted October 28, 2020 #19 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, roger001 said: Everything keeps getting pushed farther. Costa just pulled the Favolosa from the Caribbean entirely. They are putting the ship in the Med market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formula280SS Posted November 22, 2020 Author #20 Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 10/26/2020 at 12:31 PM, Formula280SS said: Warning - Level 3, Avoid Nonessential Travel. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/notices/warning/coronavirus-cruise-ship Warning updated to Level 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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