Billy Baltic Posted April 5, 2021 #501 Share Posted April 5, 2021 5 hours ago, sgmn said: I agree, only good thing is no airfare or hotels, but still way more expensive pppd in normal times than the Caribbean or Med. Maybe because the season is fairly short? They’ll charge what people will pay. If people stop paying, the prices will drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamonia Posted April 5, 2021 #502 Share Posted April 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Biker19 said: RCI could source plenty of vaccinated customers from the EU if it wanted to and was allowed even if the individual country's vaccination rates are "low". Even in Israel (the most vaccinated country with at least 5M population) the vaccination rate has plateaued at just above 70%. I dunno. Cruising just isnt that big in Europe with the average cruiser being much older and less inclined to spend money when on board so the chance of making money on reduced capacity is even more limited for Royal. There are better value lines which actually have nice ships and food and cost much less and cater for Europeans much better and MSC doesnt even mandate vaccines. Its not hard to fill one ship but if one can sail then they all can and then its about finding enough people week in week out who meet that criteria. Europes vaccine rate is 9-11% and its getting slower not faster. Doesnt bode well the way its all looking Edited April 5, 2021 by Pandamonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaroleC Posted April 5, 2021 #503 Share Posted April 5, 2021 “Cruising just isn’t that big in Europe” Really??? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamonia Posted April 5, 2021 #504 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, CaroleC said: “Cruising just isn’t that big in Europe” Really??? Well at least for Royal anyway. It struggles to fill ships all the time. Thats why it only dumps its best ships in Europe when they have to come here for repairs and upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare little britain Posted April 5, 2021 #505 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 hour ago, bigeck said: Lets go. I would do that Or even Anthem to Gib Oh now you’re talking! Anthem to Gib and back! See you in the DL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted April 5, 2021 #506 Share Posted April 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, Pandamonia said: Well at least for Royal anyway. It struggles to fill ships all the time. Thats why it only dumps its best ships in Europe when they have to come here for repairs and upgrades. With the maintenance on the Oasis class, it means 1 big ship per year in Europe. The med has very limited ports that can hold ships that size. Odyssey was scheduled to sail from Rome and Anthem from Southampton. Along with Harmony from Barcelona that's 3 new/big ships in Europe. I'm sure Indy will be back soon in Southampton, once a decent level of normal returns. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaroleC Posted April 5, 2021 #507 Share Posted April 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, little britain said: Oh now you’re talking! Anthem to Gib and back! See you in the DL! I’ll be in there too! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool1054 Posted April 5, 2021 #508 Share Posted April 5, 2021 How quick do we reckon these will take to sell out? I heard the P&O Website crashed. So was it gone in minutes like concert tickets or are cruise websites not used to demand? My question will I need to be refreshing the tab at 3pm to get on the cruise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted April 5, 2021 #509 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Cool1054 said: How quick do we reckon these will take to sell out? I heard the P&O Website crashed. So was it gone in minutes like concert tickets or are cruise websites not used to demand? My question will I need to be refreshing the tab at 3pm to get on the cruise? Welcome to CC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool1054 Posted April 5, 2021 #510 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, bigeck said: Welcome to CC Thank You, glad to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamonia Posted April 5, 2021 #511 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cool1054 said: How quick do we reckon these will take to sell out? I heard the P&O Website crashed. So was it gone in minutes like concert tickets or are cruise websites not used to demand? My question will I need to be refreshing the tab at 3pm to get on the cruise? Its just peak demand. Alton towers booking system is still broken after it started taking bookings. Last year i had to wait 50 minutes just to connect to the Lazy Spa website. Hard to know any facts. Its all spin from company CEO's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaroleC Posted April 5, 2021 #512 Share Posted April 5, 2021 32 minutes ago, Cool1054 said: How quick do we reckon these will take to sell out? I heard the P&O Website crashed. So was it gone in minutes like concert tickets or are cruise websites not used to demand? My question will I need to be refreshing the tab at 3pm to get on the cruise? Not sure about P&O but when I was looking at MSC last week on the day the Virtuosa UK cruises went on sale, their website kept saying that all sailings were fully booked! I ended up ringing them and after being on hold for over an hour I finally got through and there was plenty of availability. I think it was just the sheer volume of people browsing/attempting to book all at the same time. I actually ended up booking through a TA as I got a far better price than direct with the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static events Posted April 5, 2021 #513 Share Posted April 5, 2021 4 hours ago, bigeck said: 7 night cruise with an overnight in Gib Should give Michael a call. He is Welsh, so he might know that. could even stop at Lisbon they have no COVID now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted April 5, 2021 #514 Share Posted April 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Static events said: could even stop at Lisbon they have no COVID now. That would be better. I've never been to Lisbon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted April 5, 2021 #515 Share Posted April 5, 2021 I was going to book both 8 nighters as a b2b but might just book 1 to see if anything else gets added. I think they will try and do as much as possible to bring in revenue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixie21 Posted April 5, 2021 #516 Share Posted April 5, 2021 MSC prices have really gone up from what people are saying they have paid. I looked this morning and they wanted £1500 pp for a balcony on a 7 night cruise. This does not make me look forward to Anthem pricing on Wednesday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare FionaMG Posted April 5, 2021 #517 Share Posted April 5, 2021 28 minutes ago, Static events said: could even stop at Lisbon they have no COVID now. I wouldn't go quite that far but cases are definitely way down from where we were in January. Now we just need to get vaccines into people's arms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare FionaMG Posted April 5, 2021 #518 Share Posted April 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, bigeck said: That would be better. I've never been to Lisbon It's a great place to visit and should definitely be on your bucket list but you'd do yourself a huge favour by jumping on a cheap flight and spending a long weekend in the city as opposed to a few hours on a port call. Wait till this mess is all over so that you can really make the most of it. You won't regret it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted April 5, 2021 #519 Share Posted April 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Trixie21 said: MSC prices have really gone up from what people are saying they have paid. I looked this morning and they wanted £1500 pp for a balcony on a 7 night cruise. This does not make me look forward to Anthem pricing on Wednesday! I reckon £1200 to £1400 pp for the 8 night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixie21 Posted April 5, 2021 #520 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, bigeck said: I reckon £1200 to £1400 pp for the 8 night If it came in at £1200 I think I'd be OK with that. £1500 I would have to think about (but in fairness I'm so desperate to get away i'd probably pay it lol!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static events Posted April 5, 2021 #521 Share Posted April 5, 2021 40 minutes ago, bigeck said: I was going to book both 8 nighters as a b2b but might just book 1 to see if anything else gets added. I think they will try and do as much as possible to bring in revenue b2b aren’t allowed apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted April 5, 2021 #522 Share Posted April 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, Trixie21 said: If it came in at £1200 I think I'd be OK with that. £1500 I would have to think about (but in fairness I'm so desperate to get away i'd probably pay it lol!) Celebrity Silhouette is £1450 and that includes drinks, grats and wi fi I think we will be fine as prices will be competitive. P&O, 'X' and Msc are lall touting for our ££ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static events Posted April 5, 2021 #523 Share Posted April 5, 2021 20 minutes ago, FionaMG said: It's a great place to visit and should definitely be on your bucket list but you'd do yourself a huge favour by jumping on a cheap flight and spending a long weekend in the city as opposed to a few hours on a port call. Wait till this mess is all over so that you can really make the most of it. You won't regret it. Agree. also the algarve is great. I really enjoy vilamoura. I wonder why there isn’t a cruise ship port for the algarve.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted April 5, 2021 #524 Share Posted April 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Static events said: b2b aren’t allowed apparently. Ah. Hadn't seen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Static events Posted April 5, 2021 #525 Share Posted April 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, bigeck said: Celebrity Silhouette is £1450 and that includes drinks, grats and wi fi I think we will be fine as prices will be competitive. P&O, 'X' and Msc are lall touting for our ££ I would take £1,450 inc drinks, brats and WiFi... in theory it should be slightly lower than Celebrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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