Masks required for August sailings from Florida even if vaccinated while walking around

[newcruzer2]

56 minutes ago, firefly333 said:

 

I hope rcl does vaccinated cruises by dec when I board, but they make the policy and didnt have the gumption to do vaccinated at 95%. 

DITTO

[coffeebean]

2 hours ago, Jimbo said:

I believe they are on cruises out of Florida

Cruises out of Florida does not allow unvaxxed in the casino among other adult oriented venues such as some bars and the spa.

[jean87510]

after reading all these posts, I am so glad I cancelled my September cruise.  Had to add that in before the usual suspects get yet ANOTHER mask/covid/vaccine post cancelled.  

 

or get my post deleted...;)

Edited July 10, 2021 by jean87510

[crewsweeper]

2 minutes ago, jean87510 said:

after reading all these posts, I am so glad I cancelled my September cruise.  Had to add that in before the usual suspects get yet ANOTHER mask/covid/vaccine post cancelled.  

 

or get my post deleted...;)

Sorry you cancelled your cruise.  Hope you reconsider and rebook down the road.

[jean87510]

1 minute ago, crewsweeper said:

Sorry you cancelled your cruise.  Hope you reconsider and rebook down the road.

I did.  September of 2022.  It was Carnival Vista a b2b out of Galveston.  We were going to visit family in Houston and some were coming on cruise.  We are all medical field so really needed this little reunion but we all decided we would not enjoy ourselves with masks on a vacation.  The islands wont disappear.

[coffeebean]

2 hours ago, harkinmr said:

True.  But closing the casino to unvaccinated passengers is also a good disincentive to them cruising.  Just more ammunition for RCI.

I just wish Royal would piss or get off the pot. Keep the un-vaxxed off their ships and we can all enjoy ourselves with a cruise experience that Celebrity and Carnival are offering. If they ever do sail, NCL will offer the same cruise vacation as Carnival and NCL ALL OUT OF FLORIDA.

[coffeebean]

2 hours ago, BND said:

What exactly are you implying?

That is easy to grasp. It is very well known who is not getting vaccinated.

[coffeebean]

1 hour ago, smplybcause said:

 

Considering the Alaska cruises have the same protocols as Florida even though they're vax only for those that can, I'd say it's very safe to assume Galveston will be the same. 

Are you sure those cruises to Alaska and from Galveston are at least 95% vaxxed? It makes no sense at all to have fully vaccinated people masking up for 5% unvaxxed on board. That is against CDC guidelines.

[smplybcause]

6 minutes ago, coffeebean said:

Are you sure those cruises to Alaska and from Galveston are at least 95% vaxxed? It makes no sense at all to have fully vaccinated people masking up for 5% unvaxxed on board. That is against CDC guidelines.

 

They're requiring anyone over the age of 16 in July and 12 in August to be vaccinated. But Royal has said nothing of them hitting the needed 95%. Serenade has a test cruise scheduled. My friend is on the first ovation cruise and was emailed the protocols including mask wearing inside except for vax only locations. They're the exact same as Freedom rules except the mandatory vaccinations. I'm assuming Royal is anticipating more than 5% being too young - maybe they decided on the same protocols for all ships though that's less likely as Harmony in Europe is requiring masks even outside.

Edited July 10, 2021 by smplybcause

[Iamcruzin]

2 hours ago, bucfan2 said:

Easier fix....cruise on the lines that have protocols that suit you.

Probably not so easy for some folks who stacked up the 125% FCCs.  

Edited July 10, 2021 by Iamcruzin

[orville99]

1 hour ago, coffeebean said:

That is because the casino is off limits to the unvaxxed. That is a venue to vaxxed only.

YUP. That's what the published protocols that we got last week said.😉

[Iamcruzin]

No sense arguing over mask or no mask, vaccinated or unvaccinated. Anyone who booked a cruise for startup knew that there would be protocols and issues in the beginning. If you don't like the rules cancel your cruise and wait it out like the rest of us.  The more I read these threads with the ever changing protocols and covid testing requirements the happier I am that I don't have anything booked. It shoulds like an on board nightmare and a lot of precruise stress.  I never felt stress planning a vacation.

Edited July 10, 2021 by Iamcruzin

[SidneyHuff1950]

1 hour ago, coffeebean said:

Seriously? Even on sailings with all adults vaccinated, everyone must mask up indoors? That is just plain silly. Have the kids mask up, not the adults. But that just seems to logical.

They are following the science and listening to the experts. What are your qualifications to say CDC what the experts recommend is silly?

[SidneyHuff1950]

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Edited July 10, 2021 by SidneyHuff1950

[sellwingri]

There are so many locations that unvaccinated passengers can’t go (casino, most bars, shows except for those designated just for the unvaccinated, etc) that the only time I’ll have to wear my mask is walking inside on the ship and shopping.  

[coffeebean]

22 minutes ago, SidneyHuff1950 said:

They are following the science and listening to the experts. What are your qualifications to say CDC what the experts recommend is silly?

There is no science there. I have absolutely no qualifications other than I read the CDC website to see what the latest guidelines are for vaccinated people. I was basing my comments on the CDC guidelines that are in place on land for fully vaccinated people.

 

Any cruise that sails with at least 95% vaccinated, vaxxed people do not have to mask up. THAT is the science and that comes from the CDC guidelines in the CSO. Ask those people who sailed on the first Celebrity ship OUT OF FLORIDA what it was like to transverse the ship without having to mask up. THAT is the science I'm talking about and those are not my rules.

Edited July 10, 2021 by coffeebean

[Mikew0805]

I am okay with all the protocols, I just want to be on a ship. Sorry for those that do not like the protocols, I am sure they will change in the near future. hang in there.

[kirtihk]

1 hour ago, coffeebean said:

Hubby and I don't have any cruises booked either. It's going to be a while before we will book. When we do book, masking will NOT be required for vaccinated passengers anywhere on the ship. That is for sure!

Agree. I only hope that will not occur in the next life.

[not-enough-cruising]

1 hour ago, SidneyHuff1950 said:

They are following the science and listening to the experts. What are your qualifications to say CDC what the experts recommend is silly?

Nowhere does the CDC recommend masking of a 100% vaccinated cohort.  Heck, just a day or two ago they stated schools don’t need to mask the vaccinated kids. 
Why the cruise ship double  standard? It’s certainly not science. 

BTW my qualifications are 30 plus years of internal / acute care medical practice. 

 

 

 

[SidneyHuff1950]

2 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

I guess I would classify the WHO as experts "kind of".  The situation in the USA is different from many other places, the WHO paints with a very broad brush, hence the WORLD in their title. I wouldn't count their advice as applicable to all areas.  One can look at the numbers (hospitalizations and deaths) in this country and easily conclude that the vaccinated do not have much to worry about with the Delta variant.

Ahh, ok, so the World Health Organization are "kind of" experts, but the CDC are the real experts. Im curious, do you look at the unvaccinated and think less of them?