Sad story about crew member suicide on Wonder of the Seas

[time4u2go]

Cruise Ship Worker Took Own Life After Not Being Allowed to Leave: Report (msn.com)

 

[time4u2go]

35 minutes ago, dada2199cc said:

Crew Center (the source of this story) are really off in saying that the cruise lines don't do enough for the mental health of their employees.

The suicide rate of cruise workers is below the suicide rate of of the general US population and below the suicide rate of the general world population.

 

While this is a tragedy for the individual and their friends and family, this isn't a cruise line issue, per se.

 

I know enough *retired* cruise line workers to know that the average person loves the time they spent traveling the world and the money they made doing it.  You'll always have mentally unstable folks in any business.  You can't account for outliers in how you treat everyone.

I'm curious...do cruise lines provide counseling or other mental health services for crew members?  It's something I've never really thought about.

[nelblu]

Question, why wouldn't/couldn't  Royal let him leave.

[Ferry_Watcher]

37 minutes ago, dada2199cc said:

The mental health industry is always up in arms about this, but when you call them out on the fact that there are fewer suicides on a ship than in society, they go silent.

 Even one suicide is too many.

[John&LaLa]

Hasn't this story received enough attention already 🙄 

[fenton04]

As far as the Newsweek article.  Since the print version went belly up.  The news gathering for the online version HAS really suffered.  Caveat emptor.

[Airbear232]

2 hours ago, nelblu said:

Question, why wouldn't/couldn't  Royal let him leave.

Question two, why didn’t they just leave?  It’s very sad but I don’t believe it’s Royal’s fault.  My heart goes out to their family for their loss. 

[chengkp75]

29 minutes ago, Airbear232 said:

Question two, why didn’t they just leave?  It’s very sad but I don’t believe it’s Royal’s fault.  My heart goes out to their family for their loss. 

The crew are in whatever country the ship is in, on a crew visa.  Whether this allows for joining/leaving the ship is a different question.  In the US, crew only transiting US ports, require a D visa.  If they plan on joining/leaving the ship in the US, they need a C1 visa as well.  The terms of the C1 visa are that the crew member will be escorted at all times by a bonded security guard from the ship to the airport security line.  Further, if the crew has little cash on hand, as most of their salaries are sent home, how is he/she to pay for transportation to the airport.  When a crew member leaves a ship normally, they get an entrance stamp from CBP.  Without that, the airline may not allow the crewmember to check in.  Without completing the contract, the crew member is liable for the cost of the airline ticket.  In short, the crew member who leaves without notice would be entering the country illegally.  This is the same for all crew on all foreign ships, not just cruise ships.

[BecciBoo]

Clarity as usual😶

[Mapleleafforever]

Wonder gonna be haunted now. 

 

RIP

Edited November 22, 2022 by Mapleleafforever

[LouChamp]

blessings and prayers 

[Joebucks]

I loathe how all of unfortunate events on cruise ships become "cruise stories" where everyone with a keyboard draws up their own conclusion on how terrible cruising is, yet the same scrutiny doesn't apply to the rest of the world. Many people out there live a hard life. Including but not limited to those in other countries who provide customer service, manufacturing, and yes, even cruising. We don't always know the facts. Nor does our liberal approach to "needing more mental health services" really provide any concrete solve. Working on a cruise is a hard life, but it also provides better opportunities to many who wouldn't have been as fortunate otherwise.

 

Be fortunate for what you have. Please, also be kind to the workers. They work so hard for some of the most disrespectful pigs out there. Being constantly yelled at or berated doesn't help rough scenarios they may or may not be going through. Treat them like people. Greet them. Thank them. Make them smile. It doesn't help working a 12 hour day then being yelled at by an ungrateful, spoiled, Karen who NEEDS XYZ.

[IonImplantTech]

My very 1st cruise which was on Liberty of the Seas a crew member jumped overboard.  Very sad. 😞

 

[IonImplantTech]

Correction, Vision of the Seas.

Edited November 23, 2022 by IonImplantTech

[brillohead]

If we believed everything the media said happens on a cruise ship, then that grandfather "didn't know the window was open" and it was "in a children's play area" and the baby wasn't held outside of the window.....