fuel surcharges, the clock is ticking

[mlmbar]

If we had leadrship that did not ban Gulf drilling, leadership that did nto ban drilling in a frozen wasteland, if we had leadership that was trying to shut down West Texas drilling....three years ago we would not be in this mess.

GAS has never been this high in February....with unemployment at 8+% and underemployment in the low teens...these prices are destroying our nation.

 

You can be clever with your Sarah wit...BUT, you, will in the coming days, begin to face facts and reality. You hoped ofr change and all you will have left is change in your pocket.

Uh this probably would be better remaining apolitical. Just talking about the possibility of fuel surcharge not political reasons for why

[Hondu]

If we had leadrship that did not ban Gulf drilling, leadership that did nto ban drilling in a frozen wasteland, if we had leadership that was trying to shut down West Texas drilling....three years ago we would not be in this mess.

GAS has never been this high in February....with unemployment at 8+% and underemployment in the low teens...these prices are destroying our nation.

 

You can be clever with your Sarah wit...BUT, you, will in the coming days, begin to face facts and reality. You hoped ofr change and all you will have left is change in your pocket.

 

Come on. This a cruise forum not Fox Noise. The bottom line is that oil drill here is not segregated from the open market price. Have you ever thought of why the price per barrel goes up when a hurricane is threatening the gulf or like what we have now with the unnecessary threats on Iran. All the saber rattling is hitting me in the pocket. My next cruise is 19 days which could cost me a bit more.

[uncleboo]

lets keep it to ourselves as cruiselines do read the websites

 

they want to not inact a fuel charge for as long as they can as whenever they

 

do that booking rates go down.

 

they also want you to spend your $$ on the ship bar casino spa shopping etc and not on gas surcharges

[rummenroman]

I guess I shouldn't tell you that we are at $3.01 - $3.15 range. We also have 85 octane whereas many other places the lowest you can get is 87 octane.

[peteukmcr]

I couldn't resist and give you an idea of the cost of gas over here in the UK in comparison with your "cheap" prices. :D

 

No flaming please, I feel your pain and understand the price increases that have taken place over recent years, but trust me it's no picnic over this side of the pond either.

 

To perform a price comparison I have to first convert the price in litres that is used in Europe to that equivalent of a US gallon.

 

There are approximately 3.79 litres in a US gallon. So at a price of £1.339 per litre for 'regular' (always expressed in pence here, so you will see 133.9 at the pump) that converts to nearly £5.08 for a US gallon.

 

Using an exchange rate for the GBP £ to US $ of £1 = $1.5269, this equates to $7.76 per gallon!

 

The same calculation for a gallon of 'premium' makes it around $8.04 a gallon.

 

Now if I were in Ireland, I'd be paying the equivalent of $8.20 a gallon, only for regular, ouch!

 

Germany, $7.80 per gallon, Denmark $8.56, France $7.80 for example of some European prices.

[dmwnc1959]

Oil hit huge price hikes and well over $4 a gallon during the Bush administration and there was no cruise industry surcharge levied then. Why should there be one now or in the near future?

 

"When oil prices hit a record $147 a barrel in July 2008, the Bush administration leaned on Saudi Arabia to pump more crude in hopes that a flood of new crude would drive the price down. The Saudis complied, but not before warning that oil already was plentiful and that Wall Street speculation, not a shortage of oil, was driving up prices."

 

Some of these Obama conspiracy theorist need to shut off Fox News and go play in the yard with the kids/dog/shovel/mower.

 

http://mobile.businessweek.com/finance/rising-gas-prices-not-demand-driven-02142012.html

 

http://www.chron.com/business/article/U-S-oil-gusher-blows-out-projections-3341919.php?cmpid=twitter

 

"Domestic Energy Production Has Soared Under President Obama: The number of oil drilling rigs in the U.S. hit a record last week, having quadrupled in number over the past three years. Between oil and gas drilling rigs, the U.S. now has more rigs at work than the rest of the world combined. The current oil boom has buoyed the projections of some leading oil industry analysts."

 

If you want to blame anyone, blame the Big Oil corporate giants and Wall Street, NOT Obama.

 

More here: http://thinkprogress.org/progress-report/five-facts-about-gas-prices/

 

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[Paulxyz2004]

Nobody likes to pay more than they have to and I´d not be happy if they imposed a fuel surcharge to my bookings, but then I have to say it is what it is and won´t break my bank.

If my finances would be at a point that the fuel surcharge would break my budget I´d not book the trip in the first place. JMO YMMV.

[midwife1021]

I couldn't resist and give you an idea of the cost of gas over here in the UK in comparison with your "cheap" prices. :D

 

Using an exchange rate for the GBP £ to US $ of £1 = $1.5269, this equates to $7.76 per gallon!

 

LOLOL...I was waiting for someone to bring up that in Europe $5/gallon gas would be awesome.

 

The last time I drove in England, I recall filling up our Ford Focus at a little petrol station along the M32 just outside of Bristol... It cost something obscene (well, to us anyway) like £57. The exchange rate was more like £1=$1.70, which we thought was awesome since it had been £1=$2.00+ only a few months prior. Our family and friends back in the States couldn't believe how much we paid for that tank of fuel.

[peteukmcr]

LOLOL...I was waiting for someone to bring up that in Europe $5/gallon gas would be awesome.

 

The last time I drove in England, I recall filling up our Ford Focus at a little petrol station along the M32 just outside of Bristol... It cost something obscene (well, to us anyway) like £57. The exchange rate was more like £1=$1.70, which we thought was awesome since it had been £1=$2.00+ only a few months prior. Our family and friends back in the States couldn't believe how much we paid for that tank of fuel.

I know I couldn't resist! My car only has a small gas tank compared to others, but even so, when I bought the car 5 years ago it only cost the equivalent of $38 to fill the tank, now it's around $72! For the Ford Focus you mentioned, that would cost you around £73 or $112 to fill the tank nowadays!

[little britain]

LOLOL...I was waiting for someone to bring up that in Europe $5/gallon gas would be awesome.

 

It costs between £75 - £80 to fill up my 3-series BMW ($114 - $121):eek:

[Jetdriver787]

Worth remembering that in the UK around 60% of that price is duty and sales tax (20%)

 

Currently unleaded averages around $8.36 per US Gall.

Duty and 20% sales tax (VAT) makes up around $5 of that figure.

product price retails (ex-tax) around $ $3.36 per US Gall.

[redwell]

Worth remembering that in the UK around 60% of that price is duty and sales tax (20%)

 

Currently unleaded averages around $8.36 per US Gall.

Duty and 20% sales tax (VAT) makes up around $5 of that figure.

product price retails (ex-tax) around $ $3.36 per US Gall.

 

we have an holiday rambler vacationer american rv which is an 6.5 v10 engine its costing us a fortune to run the market has dropped for the demand for these vechicles

in the uk so prices have hit rock bottom so we are stuck with it. we didnt use it for going to europe last year because of the fuel cost. so we will only be using it local this year so that why we have booked a cruise. i wish we were paying us costs for our fuel

[peteukmcr]

Worth remembering that in the UK around 60% of that price is duty and sales tax (20%)

 

Currently unleaded averages around $8.36 per US Gall.

Duty and 20% sales tax (VAT) makes up around $5 of that figure.

product price retails (ex-tax) around $ $3.36 per US Gall.

Very true regarding the high percentage of duty and sales tax, but seeing I can't reclaim any of that or offset against any other taxable payments, it's irrelevant what the price is ex tax in comparison to the prices in the US. It costs me around $8 a gallon here as opposed to the prices in the US.

[TEXASMUNK]

Youare 100% right, my apologizes. I was, actually, talking nabout of of them! But you are still right!!!!! Back to the boat....:-)

[cruisenfever]

So how much would a fuel surcharge be? just booked my flight to FLL on Sept 14 because it went up $10 in a week and the day after I booked it went up another $6. Still same price I paid last year

From the RCI website. This has been in place on the bottom of every itinerary page since the last fuel surcharge debacle.......

 

Royal Caribbean International reserves the right to impose a fuel supplement on all guests if the price of West Texas Intermediate fuel exceeds $65.00 per barrel. The fuel supplement for 1st and 2nd guests would be no more than $10 per guest per day, to a maximum of $140 per cruise; and for additional guests would be no more than $5 per person per day, to a maximum of $70 per cruise.

[cruisinfanatic]

I dont really like the way oil prices are going , I think thsi year we will see a fuel surcharge back in our invoice, I know so way is already in the price , but the cruise cant handle anything above 100$ a barrel

 

And you know all this how?

Oil was over $100 for awhile last yr

[TEXASMUNK]

Gasoline, at the pump, has never been this high in February. I think that is where the OP's opinion is originating.

[mking8288]

Very true regarding the high percentage of duty and sales tax, but seeing I can't reclaim any of that or offset against any other taxable payments, it's irrelevant what the price is ex tax in comparison to the prices in the US. It costs me around $8 a gallon here as opposed to the prices in the US.

 

+1 :eek: Very true & thanks for a balanced world view for us folks here from the North America. The last time we rented north of our border in Canada, it cost $60 USD to fill up a Toyota Corolla, AT with 4 cyclinders.

 

I barked at paying $50+ now to fill up our Honda (soon to hit $60, I predict ...) but have no pity nor sympathy for the driver next to me at the "petrol" station - $100+ worth of premium fuel for her/his oversized Chevy 4x4 with a 25 gallon tank - en route to shop at Walmart !!

 

Back on topic, RCCI and others have already "priced" in the fuel components in their final ticketing charges, with the optional fuel surcharges as additional contingency cushioning - we know that they know, as we all know - pulling last minute surprises are counter-productive to liquor sales, high-end dining, photography and spa treatments, duty-free & gift-shopping, and shore excurisons, etc. - so the game of playing chicken & egg continued. Counting our days (under 60 now, I think) before we head for the pier by driving - no flying (airline tickets & charges for checked luggages are simply "obscene" these days - not to mention the TSA security theater) - and we will deal with next year's cruise options later on.

 

The travel industry knows it - STAYcation (by not driving, flying and cruising) is their #1 enemy. A loaf of (downsized) Wonder Bread is $4 nowadays - wow, hello - "room service for cabin xxxx, please" - it was 49 cents back in the days when we're growing up as teens, LOL.

[nyyhoneybee]

We are over $4.00 a gallon here in NY already. I predit $5.00 by end of May here :(:eek:

[tahqa]

And you know all this how?

Oil was over $100 for awhile last yr

 

I suspect OP is trolling... :rolleyes:

[besberry]

$3.55 @ gal in Northern Wis. today. Still o.k. but $4.00 soon i think. How expensive is it where you live?

£1.35 a litre! That's about US$8.09 a gallon, and that's a US gallon not Imperial! :eek:

[Eng23]

Here in Central Florida Prices for gas are ranging from $3.67 - $3.73 (on Disney Property). I bet the 2 gas stations on 436 by OIA are well over $5 probably close to $6 per gallon.

Those two gas stations on 436 by the airport were charging over $5 a gallon last year. :eek:

[jonbgd]

If you want to blame anyone, blame the Big Oil corporate giants and Wall Street,

.

 

One big oil giant from Texas puts alot of its profits back into research more than the avg joe knows about.

While they have made huge profits over the past several years its the middle east that dictates the price.

 

Some countrys in OPEC can survive off of $28 a barrel other countries started building more infrastucture and new government buildings last time the price skyrocketed.

They need it @ $85-90 a barrel. So that is one reason OPEC cuts supply. To make sure the price doesnt drop to low.

 

We will never see oil below $85 for an extended period. Im blaming the $100 + a barrell on day traders spec/futures market

 

To the OP the price is already figured into our current cruise price

 

BTW the difference in cost of gas at the pump between TX and CA is all the extra taxes CA pays at the pump

[Maraprince]

With the price of category d and e balconies on the 11/4 sailing of the EOS already over $2,000.00, if RCCL decides to pass along the fuel surcharge they will be putting icing on their cake!

 

 

 

MARAPRINCE

[orville99]

 

"Domestic Energy Production Has Soared Under President Obama: The number of oil drilling rigs in the U.S. hit a record last week, having quadrupled in number over the past three years. Between oil and gas drilling rigs, the U.S. now has more rigs at work than the rest of the world combined. The current oil boom has buoyed the projections of some leading oil industry analysts."

 

While the quote is accurate relative to today's production numbers, the reality is that every one of the leases and permits that were executed in order to enable this increase in production was executed prior to the current administration taking office. There have been a total of zero new leases or permits executed in the past three years. It takes an average of five years between permitting and a well coming online.:)