Protesters dive into Venice's canal to block cruise ships

[RetiredMustang]

I saw this article this morning in The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/10326417/Protesters-dive-into-Venices-canal-to-block-cruise-ships.html

 

Dave

[kazu]

I saw this article this morning in The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/10326417/Protesters-dive-into-Venices-canal-to-block-cruise-ships.html

 

Dave

 

Thanks for the link - hopefully the people don't get sick from jumping in the Canal - it's not the cleanest water in the world:rolleyes:

 

I for one am glad the Government is cracking down on the 40,000 + ton ships. Venice is very fragile and a beautiful spot. As much as I enjoy the sail in and sail a way - I'd far prefer Venice remain to visit in the future;) And small ships will still be permitted:D

[Randyk47]

Thanks for the link - hopefully the people don't get sick from jumping in the Canal - it's not the cleanest water in the world:rolleyes:

 

I for one am glad the Government is cracking down on the 40,000 + ton ships. Venice is very fragile and a beautiful spot. As much as I enjoy the sail in and sail a way - I'd far prefer Venice remain to visit in the future;) And small ships will still be permitted:D

 

I too can't imagine jumping into the Canal! I understand it's gotten better but 20 so years ago my ex and I were in Venice and she asked me what that white fuzzy stuff was floating in the water. Leaned over in the gondola and whispered in her ear....I thought she was going to get sick. :eek::)

 

Luckily next year we'll be sailing in and out of Venice on the very small 17,000 ton Wind. :)

[jtl513]

As in a lot of places, the battle is between those who depend on tourism for their livelihood and those who don't. Maybe a port on the mainland with tourists arriving by excursions would be a compromise.

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[Krazy Kruizers]

Thanks for the link Dave.

12 ships in one day -- way above the normal 2 -- no wonder they were protesting.

[Wakepatrol]

Those wine petitioners will go to any length:D

[shrimp56]

those wine petitioners will go to any length:d

 

rofl

[holacanada]

Is this what they call a Minestrone ? :confused:

 

Holacanada on Noordam in 63 days, 13 hours and 7 minutes

[Essiesmom]

And the interesting thing is, that those people were probably 'delaying' the departing ships, not those arriving. I followed all of them in on AIS, and there did not appear to be any delays. EM

[MR NW GUY]

Those wine petitioners will go to any length:D

I Love it!!!

 

I saw the topic and was going to make a similar comment... But, you beat me to it.

 

How about the petition signers find something as powerful has these folks did make their positon know. But - I hear they are looking forward to getting 200 signatures!

[Vict0riann]

It's the most amazing departure from a city, isn't it? It will be sad if it is curtailed, but I can understand why the locals complain. And 12 ships on one day - can't imagine how they allowed that many in in the first place. There isn't that much space to dock, is there?

[OVgirl]

I agree that we shouldn't sacrifice the beauty of a city just for the almighty dollar.

 

Having never sailed out of Venice, I can only imagine the amazing view, but we have to think of the future.

[startwin]

I Love it!!!

 

I saw the topic and was going to make a similar comment... But, you beat me to it.

 

How about the petition signers find something as powerful has these folks did make their positon know. But - I hear they are looking forward to getting 200 signatures!

 

 

Awwww - it's so nice that you two have found one another:D

[serendipity1499]

Thanks for the link - hopefully the people don't get sick from jumping in the Canal - it's not the cleanest water in the world:rolleyes:

 

I for one am glad the Government is cracking down on the 40,000 + ton ships. Venice is very fragile and a beautiful spot. As much as I enjoy the sail in and sail a way - I'd far prefer Venice remain to visit in the future;) And small ships will still be permitted:D

 

I was in Venice in the 60's & it was beautiful, but the canal's were dirty at that time..

Can't imagine 35,000 tourists in that small area..I would be as upset as they are if something like this were to spoil our view..

Cheers...Betty

[ScriptOhio]

Re: Defenders of the ships say 5,000 local families are supported by the jobs guaranteed by the traffic, while protesters counter that the city's character is being crushed by the daily wave of tourists who disembark, buy a souvenir and then leave.

 

And if the protesters get their way, next year you'll be reading this....."Protesters are jumping into the Venice canals to protest a raise in taxes. Government officials reported that the tax increases were necessary to make up for the lost revenue from port fees, decline of other tax revenue (generated from passengers spending $$$ while in port), and the increase in government welfare programs/spending due to job losses when they banned cruise ships from Venice last year."

 

:p

[MR NW GUY]

Awwww - it's so nice that you two have found one another:D

Thanks for following my postings so closely. It is nice to have fans and followers.

:rolleyes:

[startwin]

Thanks for following my postings so closely. It is nice to have fans and followers.

:rolleyes:

 

Indeed it it! I've kind of gotten used to it now and enjoy the company.:D

[kazu]

I Love it!!!

 

I saw the topic and was going to make a similar comment... But, you beat me to it.

 

How about the petition signers find something as powerful has these folks did make their positon know. But - I hear they are looking forward to getting 200 signatures!

 

 

glad you are happy - but I really thought this post was about Venice??

 

Have you even been there - or just take delight out of derailing threads with your counterpart.??

 

This is very important as Venice is really suffering - if you want to derail a thread - please pick another one

 

 

And definitely go to Venice:D

[startwin]

glad you are happy - but I really thought this post was about Venice??

 

Have you even been there - or just take delight out of derailing threads with your counterpart.??

 

This is very important as Venice is really suffering - if you want to derail a thread - please pick another one

 

 

And definitely go to Venice:D

 

 

I must apologise for my part in derailing, as well.:o

 

I have been to Venice, and to be honest I cannot imagine the negative impact of 12 cruise ships all at the same time. I was there way back in the day before it got so popular with the cruise lines.

[gigianne]

Cruising from Venice was one of the most memorable ship experiences I have had. It would be a shame not to still be able to do this - however, I too understand the importance of protecting the city and environs for future generations. I have a friend who cruised from Venice on Saturday - it will be interesting to hear of her experiences with the protests. 12 ships - 35,000 passengers - that's huge.

[MR NW GUY]

glad you are happy - but I really thought this post was about Venice??

 

Have you even been there - or just take delight out of derailing threads with your counterpart.??

 

This is very important as Venice is really suffering - if you want to derail a thread - please pick another one

 

 

And definitely go to Venice:D

The cruise lines seem to differ with your position. I hope you exercise your freedom of speech and start a petition or never cruise in Venice.

[Seavoyage]

Would rather visit and spend our US dollars in ports where we are welcome...

arrivederci! addio! scortese Venezia!!!

[KirkNC]

Re: Defenders of the ships say 5,000 local families are supported by the jobs guaranteed by the traffic, while protesters counter that the city's character is being crushed by the daily wave of tourists who disembark, buy a souvenir and then leave.

 

And if the protesters get their way, next year you'll be reading this....."Protesters are jumping into the Venice canals to protest a raise in taxes. Government officials reported that the tax increases were necessary to make up for the lost revenue from port fees, decline of other tax revenue (generated from passengers spending $$$ while in port), and the increase in government welfare programs/spending due to job losses when they banned cruise ships from Venice last year."

 

:p

 

Exactly, while I understand the downside of cruise ships and other visitors, the decline in Venice's population would sky rocket without them.

[jresn02]

Exactly, while I understand the downside of cruise ships and other visitors, the decline in Venice's population would sky rocket without them.

 

 

So it is Okay to ruin the environment there and do long term damage so others won't be allowed to visit in the future in hopes of saving Venice's Population that may leave if a few boats don't come? Venice Population is dwindling because of lack of grocery stores and modern amenities. Population is not dwindling because of jobs (job market there is not worse than any other tourist part of Italy). Look at the devastation that the Costa has done to the environment and how tourism has been hurt by it. I can see why they are concerned just by looking at all the incidents on cruise lines the past few years.

[cruisemom42]

Would rather visit and spend our US dollars in ports where we are welcome...

arrivederci! addio! scortese Venezia!!!

 

This is not any kind of protest aimed at Americans. Many other nationalities are cruising on those ships and some of the cruise lines are Italian based.

 

It's concern about the future of their city and how best to preserve it, not some sort of "dig" at tourists.