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no knowledge of UK, but AU seems to be able to do it. at least from what I've read around here.

 

Hard to say now, as every airline I have flown on (and that number is over 100) has banned smoking.

 

Even flights between 3rd world countries.

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A search of the government's trademark database has turned up a number of new ship names registered to Royal Caribbean. Although they may not use all of these names, the fact that RCI has trademarked them means some may be used for upcoming ships.

Seems to me that some of those placeholders are just to throw people off. There was several posts indicating the next two Q class ships would be Passion and Pulse (and those have been trademarked for some time), yet the Q4 will be Spectrum and Q5 will likely not be Passion nor Pulse.

 

Biker, who doubts either Q5 or O5 names are on that lists. OTOH Icon of the Seas may be the first Icon class ship name

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I'll take a wild guess that Icon of the Seas will be the first of that class.

Not necessarily. It depends on whether this is Icon class or Project Icon. The OP has both contexts listed.

 

Project Genesis led to Oasis class. Project Sunshine led to Quantum class.

 

This early out, I'm thinking it's Project Icon and the class name will come much closer to actual construction of the first ship in that class.

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Seems to me that some of those placeholders are just to throw people off. There was several posts indicating the next two Q class ships would be Passion and Pulse (and those have been trademarked for some time), yet the Q4 will be Spectrum and Q5 will likely not be Passion nor Pulse.

 

Biker, who doubts either Q5 or O5 names are on that lists. OTOH Icon of the Seas may be the first Icon class ship name

 

I'd like to see some of the old names re-used. Apparently they have no issues recycling an off Broadway show. ;)

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They ( the ports ) should rather see to it that they just allow ships into their ports who take propper care of what they blow out of their funnels during their stay- what utterly nonsense that they wont allow ships into their ports were smoking on board is allowed ( outside- of course- where else) ! By the way I am a nonsmoker, but a " friendly" one- can´t stand them hysterical reformed smokers who smoked in their cars with their kids next to them and now are on a cursade against smokers! Hypocrites!

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Finnish shipbuilder Meyer Turku Shipyard and DNV GL have signed a contract for the classification of Royal Caribbean International’s new Project Icon vessels.

The contract covers two vessels with delivery scheduled for 2022 and 2024.

Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd entered into financing agreementsfor the first and second Project Icon ships last October.

 

‘It is a proud day for DNV GL to have been entrusted with the classification of the first vessels of the new Icon Class,’ says Knut Ørbeck-Nilssen, ceo of DNV GL – Maritime.

‘These ships are set to push the envelope of what we can expect from a modern cruise vessel in terms of environmental performance, and we are looking forward to supporting Royal Caribbean and Meyer Turku to realise a successful delivery.’

Liquefied natural gas (LNG) is envisioned as the primary fuel for the new vessels. The pair will also introduce fuel cell technology, which in combination with hull air lubrication means that the ships could potentially be some of the most fuel efficient cruise vessels ever constructed, notes DNV GL.

‘To have been chosen to be part of this innovative project is a huge win for our entire global cruise team,’ says Paal Johansen, global cruise ship director, DNV GL – Maritime.

The final concept for the first vessel is currently being discussed, and the concept design phase is expected to start this spring. The initial building phase of the first ship will begin next year, with keel laying planned for October 2019.

 

 

http://www.seatrade-cruise.com/news/news-headlines/royal-caribbean-s-icon-newbuilds-to-be-classed-by-dnv-gl.html

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With the AIDAnova slated to start regular service in the Canary Islands in December, Carnival Corporation has been working on the LNG bunkering processes and procedures not only for the new AIDA ship, but also for the Costa and Carnival ships that will follow.

Carnival has contracted Shell to supply AIDA and Costa with LNG in Northern and Southern Europe and Carnival in Southern Florida. A bunkering solution for P&O’s new ships, which will also be LNG-fueled, was in the discussion stage, according to Tom Strang, senior vice president of maritime affairs.

“Because of the volume we are going to consume, LNG will be supplied by a bunker vessel,” he continued. “Shell already has a bunker vessel, the Cardissa, based out of Rotterdam, and has another vessel under contract that is currently being adapted to bunkering.

“There are only six bunkering vessels for LNG in the world of which two will be dedicated to our trade going forward.”

A barge is under construction for bunkering in South Florida that will be ready by the first quarter of 2021.

The LNG capacity of the new cruise ships will be 3,620 cubic meters in three tanks, Strang said. “The typical maximum bunkering load we can take will be just over 3,000 cubic meters which should take from six to 10 hours, a little bit longer than traditional bunkering, but not significantly so.”

The ships will be dual fuel, meaning that will also carry MGO onboard as a pilot fuel and also to satisfy the safe return to port requirements.

In order to bunker, Shell needs approval permits in every port, Strang explained. He described it as a complex process where Shell has to run risk and hazard assessments together with the ports and authorities, unlike bunkering HFO or MGO that do not require a similar approval process.

“As part of the process we have gone through with Shell we have developed a very specific bunkering protocol,” Strang said.

The cruise line’s class society must also approve the procedures as must the class society for the bunkering vessel along with the port and local authorities, before permits are granted.

Strang added: “If we had waited until the infrastructure was there before placing orders we would only now be thinking about possible orders. We took the view that this is the best fuel available for environmental performance and a number of other reasons, and then we entered into partnerships to build the infrastructure when and where we need it.”

https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/19327-new-technology-carnival-lng-bunkering.html

 

Biker, who assumes RCCL is also working on a solution for Icon class.

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Was bored and reading through the recently released RCCL 10-Q financial report (no, I'm not an accountant) and noticed something interesting.

 

As part of their statement, RCCL includes info on upcoming ships. Starting with the 2017 August 10-Q report, RCCL is reporting ICON as having 5,650 berths (most places listed the initial estimate at 5000). On the same report is lists Symphony and O5 at 5,500 and Spectrum and Q5 at 4,250.

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Was bored and reading through the recently released RCCL 10-Q financial report (no, I'm not an accountant) and noticed something interesting.

 

As part of their statement, RCCL includes info on upcoming ships. Starting with the 2017 August 10-Q report, RCCL is reporting ICON as having 5,650 berths (most places listed the initial estimate at 5000). On the same report is lists Symphony and O5 at 5,500 and Spectrum and Q5 at 4,250.

 

Well that’s disappointing. Just going by numbers her passenger to space ratio will be worse than Oasis class. I guess a lot will depend on how the ship is laid out.

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Was bored and reading through the recently released RCCL 10-Q financial report (no, I'm not an accountant) and noticed something interesting.

 

As part of their statement, RCCL includes info on upcoming ships. Starting with the 2017 August 10-Q report, RCCL is reporting ICON as having 5,650 berths (most places listed the initial estimate at 5000). On the same report is lists Symphony and O5 at 5,500 and Spectrum and Q5 at 4,250.

 

While I understand that they will attempt to continue to make the ship the destination, I have serious concerns that the more this continues (by every line) it's going to ruin the ports of call.

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While I understand that they will attempt to continue to make the ship the destination, I have serious concerns that the more this continues (by every line) it's going to ruin the ports of call.
I think that happened 40 years ago

 

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Was bored and reading through the recently released RCCL 10-Q financial report (no, I'm not an accountant) and noticed something interesting.

 

As part of their statement, RCCL includes info on upcoming ships. Starting with the 2017 August 10-Q report, RCCL is reporting ICON as having 5,650 berths (most places listed the initial estimate at 5000). On the same report is lists Symphony and O5 at 5,500 and Spectrum and Q5 at 4,250.

Bad news. Could they have also upped the GT?

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Oasis-class: 2nd Quarter 2021 5,500

Unnamed

 

Quantum-class:

Spectrum of the Seas 2nd Quarter 2019 4,250

Unnamed 4th Quarter 2020 4,250

Icon-class:

Unnamed 2nd Quarter 2022 5,650

Unnamed 2nd Quarter 2024 5,650

 

Celebrity Cruises —

Edge-class:

Celebrity Edge 4th Quarter 2018 2,900

Celebrity Apex 2nd Quarter 2020 2,900

Unnamed 4th Quarter 2021 3,200

Unnamed 4th Quarter 2022 3,200

Celebrity Flora 2nd Quarter 2019 100

From the report.

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