Dog on ship, continued

[CPT Trips]

It would probably be helpful to have official paperwork and/or certification. Hopefully those who need it will see the benefit instead of taking it as some kind of personal attack and feeling like it makes them a victim. People need Id. to enter certain places (casino, R-movie, etc.), or to purchase certain items, operate a vehicle, etc. So carrying an additional card for your animal to enter a place normally restricted to animals doesn't seem too imposing. And more importantly, if it is truly regulated, then the imposters won't keep making a mockery of needed service animals by being a nuisance to everyone else. There ought to be strict criteria to even issue service animal certification (if there ever becomes such a thing). In addition, there needs to be either an annual re-certification, or periodic evaluations done either as a pop-up or undercover the same way cities handle food inspections. This way, any doctor who decides to be "for sale" to any yahoo that wants a service animal card, will be exposed. Unlike how it is now where people can just ask their doctor to provide the necessary emotional support animal paperwork.

 

 

have ordinances that require everyone over the age of 15 to carry some for of state issued ID and provide it on demand from an officer.

 

Carrying a card isn't the issue.

 

It's obtaining such such a card that is one barrier for a person with a disability to overcome. Then there are the multiple bureaucracies needed to issue cards, certify trainers, etc.

 

The whole purpose of the ADA was to remove barriers to access to public accommodations by people with disabilities.

[Beachin2]

Most of our cruises these days are TA & TPs, so we don't get to see the pets in strollers, etc. too much anymore aboard ship considering the international importation of animals issues and costs.

 

Those of you who cruise differently and see this more often should start a "wall of shame" thread (with pictures of the animal, not the people) that you encounter on board along with date and ship. Blatant abuse is obvious - you know it when you see it. It isn't hard to tell the difference between the real and the posers.

 

Perhaps if these were concentrated somewhere RC and others could see what a really stupid and ridiculous situation they have allowed to evolve something besides carping here for 14 pages might happen.

 

 

Just an idea if someone wants to run with it. Better than doing nothing.

[newcruzer2]

Is this too much to ask royal Caribbean, I DONT THINK SO

 

Emotional Support Animal Policy effective on July 1, 2018.

Following are some of the highlights of the policy changes:

• Customers will submit documentation at least 48 hours before travel.
  
• JetBlue must be notified of emotional support animal travel and receive documentation no less than 48 hours prior to departure
  
• Three forms of documentation will now be required:
  
  • Veterinary Health Form
    
  • Medical/Mental Health Professional Form
    
  • Confirmation of Animal Behavior Form
    

• Each customer will only be allowed to travel with one Emotional Support Animal
  
• Acceptable emotional support and psychiatric service animals are limited to dogs, cats, and miniature horses
  
• Customers that have indicated they are traveling with an Emotional Support Animal will be sent an email with instructions on submitting documentation.
  

[Thorben-Hendrik]

I love miniature horses! (y)

[Luv2cruze!]

Not on a cruise :mad:ship!:mad::mad:

[Magnetchief]

Lol. A miniature horse !

ThT would be a first for me in a cruise ship.

 

 

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[Redrobo]

I love miniature horses! (y)

 

 

Horses or Unicorns :)

[SevenSeas1492]

Not on a cruise :mad:ship!:mad::mad:

 

 

Not on a plane either!!!

[voyager70]

Not on a plane either!!!

 

Agree. Miniature horse on a plane? You've got to be kidding.

[Cru-Zin]

Clydesdale? I could ride to the MDR. Wonder if I'd get free Budweiser at the pool bar.

[Merion_Mom]

Clydesdale? I could ride to the MDR. Wonder if I'd get free Budweiser at the pool bar.

I'm gonna go with...…………………..Clydesdale NOT a miniature horse.

[Cru-Zin]

But it's a big ship.

[mister windu]

I've read that miniature horses are gaining popularity because their life spans of about 30 years are so much longer than dogs'...thousands and thousands of dollars are spent training dogs and sadly, they are not with us long enough to be lifelong companions.

[Goodtime Cruizin]

Here you go. While standing outside the airport waiting on my Uber, a guy next to me w/ a small poodle wearing a red vest was carrying his dog in his arms. He also had a small collapsible, flexible type pet carrier. The dog was not on a leash. His Uber driver arrived before mine. Said driver jumped out to greet & assist the man w/ his luggage and quickly saw he had a dog. It went like this..

Uber - "You're going to need to place the dog in that carrier."

Man - "This is a service dog."

Uber - "I understand but he'll need to be in his crate or carrier. My car services 100's of riders per week and I can not afford to have dog hair or accidents in my car."

Man - "But this is a service dog. I need him out of his carrier."

Uber- "What is the dog trained for?"

Man - "I have Diabetes and need to take medications in a timely matter. He's trained to wake me up when I'm asleep and my alarm goes off."

Uber - "That's nice. But you'll to stay awake for this trip as your dog must be placed into his carrier."

Man - "This was not required when Uber brought me here."

Uber - "Sir, I will be more than happy to assist you in what capacity I can but your service dog must be contained or you'll need to cancel."

Man - "No problem."

 

Uber driver grabs the man's luggage and places in the trunk while the man places dog in his carrier.

 

Win for Uber driver as he gets a fare.

Win for man as he gets a ride w/ his dog.

Win for future Uber riders as they don't have to deal with potential dog hair, urine, or poop.

 

I thought Uber handled this very well. He did not doubt his rider's need for a dog. He only asked what the dog was trained to do. He then stood firm on his request while not denying the man a ride. All the while showing restraint, compasion and offered an explanation for his request.

Edited June 11, 2018 by Goodtime Cruizin

[Thorben-Hendrik]

I've read that miniature horses are gaining popularity because their life spans of about 30 years are so much longer than dogs'...thousands and thousands of dollars are spent training dogs and sadly, they are not with us long enough to be lifelong companions.

 

Yeah! Go horsis!(y):hearteyes::hearteyes::hearteyes:

[ONECRUISER]

Here you go. While standing outside the airport waiting on my Uber, a guy next to me w/ a small poodle wearing a red vest was carrying his dog in his arms. He also had a small collapsible, flexible type pet carrier. The dog was not on a leash. His Uber driver arrived before mine. Said driver jumped out to greet & assist the man w/ his luggage and quickly saw he had a dog. It went like this..

Uber - "You're going to need to place the dog in that carrier."

Man - "This is a service dog."

Uber - "I understand but he'll need to be in his crate or carrier. My car services 100's of riders per week and I can not afford to have dog hair or accidents in my car."

Man - "But this is a service dog. I need him out of his carrier."

Uber- "What is the dog trained for?"

Man - "I have Diabetes and need to take medications in a timely matter. He's trained to wake me up when I'm asleep and my alarm goes off."

Uber - "That's nice. But you'll to stay awake for this trip as your dog must be placed into his carrier."

Man - "This was not required when Uber brought me here."

Uber - "Sir, I will be more than happy to assist you in what capacity I can but your service dog must be contained or you'll need to cancel."

Man - "No problem."

 

Uber driver grabs the man's luggage and places in the trunk while the man places dog in his carrier.

 

Win for Uber driver as he gets a fare.

Win for man as he gets a ride w/ his dog.

Win for future Uber riders as they don't have to deal with potential dog hair, urine, or poop.

 

I thought Uber handled this very well. He did not doubt his rider's need for a dog. He only asked what the dog was trained to do. He then stood firm on his request while not denying the man a ride. All the while showing restraint, compasion and offered an explanation for his request.

Don't think I agree with you on this one. I agree there is abuse in some situations. But for this Dog to do what it's needed could't while in cage. Would you have a seeing eye dog in cage also? I'm not up on law's but this might have violated one here. Anyone know?

[SRF]

Don't think I agree with you on this one. I agree there is abuse in some situations. But for this Dog to do what it's needed could't while in cage. Would you have a seeing eye dog in cage also? I'm not up on law's but this might have violated one here. Anyone know?

 

Why would the dog have to wake him up while taking the ride in the car???????

[Goodtime Cruizin]

Why would the dog have to wake him up while taking the ride in the car???????

 

This.

[goldesq]

I think turkeys and warthogs should be included in the list of acceptable animals.

[Merion_Mom]

Porcupines.

 

Two reasons:

 

No issues of people wanting to pet it.

 

Matches personalities of many of their owners.

[Merion_Mom]

Here you go. While standing outside the airport waiting on my Uber, a guy next to me w/ a small poodle wearing a red vest was carrying his dog in his arms. He also had a small collapsible, flexible type pet carrier. The dog was not on a leash. His Uber driver arrived before mine. Said driver jumped out to greet & assist the man w/ his luggage and quickly saw he had a dog. It went like this..

Uber - "You're going to need to place the dog in that carrier."

Man - "This is a service dog."

Uber - "I understand but he'll need to be in his crate or carrier. My car services 100's of riders per week and I can not afford to have dog hair or accidents in my car."

Man - "But this is a service dog. I need him out of his carrier."

Uber- "What is the dog trained for?"

Man - "I have Diabetes and need to take medications in a timely matter. He's trained to wake me up when I'm asleep and my alarm goes off."

Uber - "That's nice. But you'll to stay awake for this trip as your dog must be placed into his carrier."

Man - "This was not required when Uber brought me here."

Uber - "Sir, I will be more than happy to assist you in what capacity I can but your service dog must be contained or you'll need to cancel."

Man - "No problem."

 

Uber driver grabs the man's luggage and places in the trunk while the man places dog in his carrier.

 

Win for Uber driver as he gets a fare.

Win for man as he gets a ride w/ his dog.

Win for future Uber riders as they don't have to deal with potential dog hair, urine, or poop.

 

I thought Uber handled this very well. He did not doubt his rider's need for a dog. He only asked what the dog was trained to do. He then stood firm on his request while not denying the man a ride. All the while showing restraint, compasion and offered an explanation for his request.

If that is the only service that this dog provides, it seems to me that all he needs is a louder alarm clock.

[SherriZ366]

Was watching a show on one of the news channels today at home about training REAL service dogs for wounded vets. Just saw intelligent dogs learning to follow commands. No sign of Little Fluffy in her Fourth or July outfit with her stroller decorated in red, white and blue bunting and ribbons.

 

I hope nothing that Little Fluffy's selfish owners do by bringing their dogs on a ship hurt the ability of these vets, who have served our country, to bring their REAL service dogs on-board a cruise ship.

[Cru-Zin]

We just returned from Harmony of the Seas last week and saw no dogs on the ship. We are a family of dog lovers and don't even try to take our dogs with us as we understand the level of anxiety they feel.

 

Like you, I feel they are a medical necessity for some people. They must be well trained for the service they provide and they must be intelligent and possess the ability to provide the service in any situation despite distraction. These dogs should be welcome everywhere.

[Merion_Mom]

Service caterpillar.

 

[SherriZ366]

We just returned from Harmony of the Seas last week and saw no dogs on the ship. We are a family of dog lovers and don't even try to take our dogs with us as we understand the level of anxiety they feel.

 

Like you, I feel they are a medical necessity for some people. They must be well trained for the service they provide and they must be intelligent and possess the ability to provide the service in any situation despite distraction. These dogs should be welcome everywhere.

The dogs in the report I watched were VERY well trained. As I stated in my post, I don't want Little Fluffy's owners messing it up for people who need real live trained service (sometimes called "assistance") dogs or other animals.