rosepark Posted September 12, 2018 #1 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I have just received the itineraries for 2020, from which I see that the last Wind voyage that year is in August. There is then a huge gap until 15 February 2021 when she departs Ushuaia. Looks like she will be turned into an expedition ship during that period. Rp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tothesunset Posted September 12, 2018 #2 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Looks that way. Incidentally, how did you receive the new itineraries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosepark Posted September 12, 2018 Author #3 Share Posted September 12, 2018 From an agent. I got an email from SS yesterday, as did many of us I suspect,saying the itineraries are coming out on Friday but I suppose the agents get them that bit sooner. Rp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Silver Spectre Posted September 12, 2018 #4 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I have just received the itineraries for 2020, from which I see that the last Wind voyage that year is in August. There is then a huge gap until 15 February 2021 when she departs Ushuaia. Looks like she will be turned into an expedition ship during that period. Rp Thanks for the info, that’s a real shame. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseCat99 Posted September 12, 2018 #5 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I received the email as well with opportunity to book before the itineraries are released to the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosepark Posted September 12, 2018 Author #6 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I can't seem to copy it over here, otherwise I would do so. Sorry. Rp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unibok Posted September 12, 2018 #7 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I am glad to hear that they are honoring voyages through the end of the previous brochure, but disappointed to hear of the Wind's conversion. She was my first SS cruise, and such a lovely introduction it was. So, Whisper and Shadow will be the smallest in the traditional cruising fleet now? This feels like extra motivation to get back on the Wind before her conversion. Hmmm, I wonder if I can squeeze in one more? Eagerly awaiting the 2020 reveal, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brimary Posted September 12, 2018 #8 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Looks as if our four cruises on the Wind next summer will finish with our free cruise and end our 20 year love in with the Wind and Cloud as we don’t fancy Expedition cruising to the North and South Pole areas.Sad news !! The rest of the Musified fleet does not attract us ..too large and impersonal.Lots of happy memories to take away and enjoy in 2019! Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumblefoot Posted September 12, 2018 #9 Share Posted September 12, 2018 From an agent.Rose, Were there any voyages listed for the new Muse class ship; Silver Moon or Dawn (can’t remember which one was to be built first)? As of early this summer, the new ship was to launch in the fall of 2020. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyjones Posted September 13, 2018 #10 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Itineraries for the Moon should be coming out next week, and according to Charmaine, Cruise Con here on the Spirit, don't go making assumptions about the Wind despite what it might look like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosepark Posted September 13, 2018 Author #11 Share Posted September 13, 2018 there are Moon voyages listed from 6/8/20 which are in the Med and Ionian Sea and then Barcelona to Fort Lauderdale on 8/11/20. Comment re assumptions duly noted, Jolly Jones and it is indeed my interpretation of the schedule only. In 2019, however, the Wind does not appeaer to be going anywhere near Ushuaia and the Southern and South Atlantic oceans, hence my supposition concerning its future use. Wm Wm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyjones Posted September 13, 2018 #12 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Not criticizing your assumption, just looking for any glimmer of hope for the Wind. I’m not interested in expedition cruising so would be sad to lose the Wind as she offers quite a different experience from the bigger ships. That said, I’m getting used to the Muse and now the stretched Spirit and I do wonder if I’ll miss having the increased choices ... Well, I’ve got three cruises on the Wind next year, guess I’ll find out. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted September 13, 2018 #13 Share Posted September 13, 2018 So far as assumptions are concerned it is always a bit like reading smoke signals. However, people mostly believe what they want and take account of the signals or not depending on whether they want to or not. But it is always the context and evidence that either adds or reduces weight. In this situation, the line has an incentive not to share that "they are considering" the major "refit". When you share such a consideration your bookings are immediately disrupted and they take an immediate and ongoing hit. People book often a couple or several years ahead. The risk is from SS's point of view that the specific refit date wasn't mentioned in the June press briefing so many people that might have planned to make a Wind booking might not take the risk either because they don't want to book a cruise and have it cancelled and/or they think that a refit implies it is in poor condition so even if they avoid the actual dock dates they don't want to be on a less than optimal ship. Easily avoided by simply booking something else, as their are enough alternatives. And all the TAs worth their weight will be advising those that don't know "that a refit might be planned but we don't know when", So what Manfredi was probably saying was that "Wind is certainly going to dry dock for an extensive change of use - it has been designed and booked - but the new owners reserve their right to change their mind". I don't think he would have had said that in the press briefing unless he was 99% sure it was happening because he is no fool and he wouldn't make a statement that would avoidably considerably cause unrest and damage bookings unless he was pretty certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyk47 Posted September 13, 2018 #14 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Since we don’t have a cruised planned or booked I haven’t been following the whole Silversea and Wind story. At the end of July when the acquisition of Silversea by RCL was announced they also announced Project Invictus that included a drydock of the Wind late this year. As I recall this was portrayed as incorporating the new Muse standard to the Wind. I still see a void in the Wind’s calendar for about four weeks in November/December 2018. ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumblefoot Posted September 14, 2018 #15 Share Posted September 14, 2018 I have just received the itineraries for 2020, from which I see that the last Wind voyage that year is in August. There is then a huge gap until 15 February 2021 when she departs Ushuaia. Looks like she will be turned into an expedition ship during that period. Rp Interesting to see the file Les37b posted doesn’t show anything for the Wind after Aug 13, 2020. Rose, does the file you have show anything for the Wind after the Feb 2021 Ushuaia departure? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosepark Posted September 14, 2018 Author #16 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Nope, just the 15/2/21 Ushuaia to Cape Town, which look like exactly the same itinerary as the Cloud is doing in Feb 2020. Looking forward to hearing if Jolly Jones gleans any more info from the horse's mouth - as it were. Wm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumblefoot Posted September 14, 2018 #17 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Looking forward to hearing if Jolly Jones gleans any more info from the horse's mouth - as it were. Wm Me too! We haven’t received the link from SS yet today. Thx for the update on the Wind! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unibok Posted September 14, 2018 #18 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) Here's an important clue, from today's brochure: New, spectacular Iceland itineraries. Silver Wind will offer a circumnavigation of Iceland, a spectacular route which has previously only been offered on expedition itineraries. So she won't be an expedition ship, but will be able to circumnavigate Iceland? Best of both worlds??? Edited September 14, 2018 by Unibok formatting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKCruiseJeff Posted September 14, 2018 #19 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Here's an important clue, from today's brochure: New, spectacular Iceland itineraries. Silver Wind will offer a circumnavigation of Iceland, a spectacular route which has previously only been offered on expedition itineraries. At least they haven’t promised they will be stopping anywhere ........... ;):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rojaan19 Posted September 15, 2018 #20 Share Posted September 15, 2018 At least they haven’t promised they will be stopping anywhere ........... ;):D Now that is just plain naughty :D:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unibok Posted September 15, 2018 #21 Share Posted September 15, 2018 At least they haven’t promised they will be stopping anywhere ........... ;):D Clever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunprince Posted September 15, 2018 #22 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Since we don’t have a cruised planned or booked I haven’t been following the whole Silversea and Wind story. At the end of July when the acquisition of Silversea by RCL was announced they also announced Project Invictus that included a drydock of the Wind late this year. As I recall this was portrayed as incorporating the new Muse standard to the Wind. I still see a void in the Wind’s calendar for about four weeks in November/December 2018. ????? The gap in the Wind schedule is from Nov 25 (Ft Lauderdale) to Dec 21 (Barbados). Any idea of the extent of the makeover? Will suites get the new look for example? 4 weeks is a rather lengthy dry dock, unless major work is being done. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumblefoot Posted September 15, 2018 #23 Share Posted September 15, 2018 The gap in the Wind schedule is from Nov 25 (Ft Lauderdale) to Dec 21 (Barbados). Any idea of the extent of the makeover? Will suites get the new look for example?Yes, the Wind’s public spaces, restaurants and cabins will be transformed, a design initiative SS refers to as "Musification”. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisinPashmina Posted September 15, 2018 #24 Share Posted September 15, 2018 When I spoke to the butler this morning he said that along with the redecoration, there will be work done on the air conditioning/heating systems. He also told me that the butlers’ advice on what was most needed was solicited in a meeting. I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunprince Posted September 15, 2018 #25 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Thanks, will the Wind look more like the Cloud or the Muse? Not sure if I really like the Cloud decor, but that is just my personal taste. We sail on her in March for the first time, so it will be nice to enjoy the improvements. Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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