Elaine5715 Posted March 6, 2019 #51 Share Posted March 6, 2019 12 hours ago, ldubs said: Come on now. Are you seriously suggesting it is discourteous to hold the door for someone in a wheelchair without getting their approval? The number of people who would object to someone holding a door for them is minuscule. If you are behind them, yes. If you are in front on them already, no. If you rush up behind someone, it can be frightening since they can't guess your intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacruise804 Posted March 6, 2019 #52 Share Posted March 6, 2019 12 hours ago, ldubs said: Come on now. Are you seriously suggesting it is discourteous to hold the door for someone in a wheelchair without getting their approval? The number of people who would object to someone holding a door for them is minuscule. I've actually known a few fiercely independent people who do object to others helping them. I still err on the side of being helpful, but there is a saying "no good deed goes unpunished." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenquixote66 Posted March 6, 2019 #53 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Some people on CC love to argue about everything. They remind me of a Twight . Zone episode. I am visibly disabled and I truly appreciate people who hold doors open for me.I always smile and thank them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 6, 2019 #54 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I have made offers of help for things like doors and ramps etc, and have had some rejected and others accepted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted March 7, 2019 #55 Share Posted March 7, 2019 The rule in sailing is, do NOT ever help without getting approval. So the person knows you are helping. You ask, and if they agree, then you help. Otherwise, stay out of the way. That seems to work well off the sail boat also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Kmkub Posted March 7, 2019 #56 Share Posted March 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, SRF said: That seems to work well off the sail boat also. Also the grocery store, gas station, movie theater, etc. I am perfectly able bodied and I have had men cut me off so they could get in front of me to "help" me with the door. I help elderly & disabled people a lot, but never without informing them of my plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 7, 2019 #57 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Sometimes it is easier just to make your intentions clear using communication. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan Posted March 8, 2019 #58 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I can’t imagine anyone wanting an elevator door to hit their wheelchair and bounce off it. I appreciate anyone putting their hand out to stop the door from closing whether they are in the elevator or coming up behind me. And I’m on my feet sometimes with a walker or cane, sometimes without. I’d love to hear some opinions from wheelchair users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted March 8, 2019 #59 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Well, the rule I will continue with is to hold elevator doors for folks. Just seems like a common courtesy, but I guess some folks will find something wrong with it. I can live with that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL3XCruise Posted March 8, 2019 #60 Share Posted March 8, 2019 10 hours ago, SRF said: The rule in sailing is, do NOT ever help without getting approval. So the person knows you are helping. You ask, and if they agree, then you help. Otherwise, stay out of the way. I think the issue with that comparison is that there are a lot more situations on a sail boat (or operating any equipment, really) where taking action without communicating first is inherently dangerous, potentially resulting in injury and damage. Not judging the approach, nor saying there isn't potential for injury if someone gets startled or pushed, but its not quite the same. 1 hour ago, jagsfan said: I can’t imagine anyone wanting an elevator door to hit their wheelchair and bounce off it. Reminds me of a recent cruise. A woman with a stroller is trying to get on to a nearly packed elevator, and the passengers are quietly talking to each other about how to rearrange everyone so there is room. The woman angrily complains that the discussion is too loud and these people are going to wake the baby. Of course, her nasty complaint is in a much louder voice than anyone else had been speaking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 8, 2019 #61 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Some people have no idea how they come across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRF Posted March 8, 2019 #62 Share Posted March 8, 2019 16 hours ago, ldubs said: Well, the rule I will continue with is to hold elevator doors for folks. Just seems like a common courtesy, but I guess some folks will find something wrong with it. I can live with that. It is not the holding of the door. It is pushing past them to do so, without telling them what you are doing. A simple, "let me grab the door for you" would go a long way to making it a less hostile act. As MANY reports are here, there are those that push past people in wheelchairs or with canes or walkers, not to help, but to get on the elevator first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 8, 2019 #63 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Quick or the dead for some, especially if trying to get to the buffet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted March 9, 2019 #64 Share Posted March 9, 2019 5 hours ago, SRF said: It is not the holding of the door. It is pushing past them to do so, without telling them what you are doing. A simple, "let me grab the door for you" would go a long way to making it a less hostile act. As MANY reports are here, there are those that push past people in wheelchairs or with canes or walkers, not to help, but to get on the elevator first. Yeah, no one should be pushing past anyone really, IMO. Anything resembling a hostile act is not good. The right thing to do is mostly just common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldubs Posted March 9, 2019 #65 Share Posted March 9, 2019 5 hours ago, MicCanberra said: Quick or the dead for some, especially if trying to get to the buffet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 9, 2019 #66 Share Posted March 9, 2019 13 minutes ago, ldubs said: Yeah, no one should be pushing past anyone really, IMO. Anything resembling a hostile act is not good. The right thing to do is mostly just common sense. I agree, pushing past even when with good intentions is still rude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyroad Posted March 27, 2019 #67 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I haven't gone through all the replies but it amazes me when I hear passengers complain about the food. I have never gotten a bad meal on any of my cruises. If you want a 5 star meal go some place on land that serves it, not a cruise ship. Also parents that let their kids run around like crazy animals in the hall way at all hrs. You are still parents even on vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted March 27, 2019 #68 Share Posted March 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, dustyroad said: I haven't gone through all the replies but it amazes me when I hear passengers complain about the food. I have never gotten a bad meal on any of my cruises. If you want a 5 star meal go some place on land that serves it, not a cruise ship. Also parents that let their kids run around like crazy animals in the hall way at all hrs. You are still parents even on vacation. I’ve had some crap meals, but you can always grab something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwcruise1 Posted March 28, 2019 #69 Share Posted March 28, 2019 15 hours ago, dustyroad said: Also parents that let their kids run around like crazy animals in the hall way at all hrs. You are still parents even on vacation. So why should they CHANGE the way they parent just because they are on vacation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustyroad Posted March 28, 2019 #70 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, jwcruise1 said: So why should they CHANGE the way they parent just because they are on vacation? LOL! Good point. Edited March 28, 2019 by dustyroad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare MicCanberra Posted March 28, 2019 #71 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Are the kids the problem or the parents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted March 28, 2019 #72 Share Posted March 28, 2019 So wish cruise ships would offer more to do between 1 - 5 on PORT days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted March 28, 2019 #73 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, MicCanberra said: Are the kids the problem or the parents? For me it’s the kids, darn things cost me a small fortune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT2407 Posted March 28, 2019 #74 Share Posted March 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, OCruisers said: So wish cruise ships would offer more to do between 1 - 5 on PORT days. But is there the demand?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted March 28, 2019 #75 Share Posted March 28, 2019 57 minutes ago, GUT2407 said: But is there the demand?? More people stay on the ship than you might expect ... ESPECIALLY on Caribbean Cruises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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