My Pet Peeve when cruising

[Elaine5715]

12 hours ago, ldubs said:

 

Come on now.  Are you seriously suggesting it is discourteous to hold the door for someone in a wheelchair without getting their approval?  The number of people who would object to someone holding a door for them is minuscule. 

If you are behind them, yes.  If you are in front on them already, no.  If you rush up behind someone, it can be frightening since they can't guess your intention.

[pacruise804]

12 hours ago, ldubs said:

 

Come on now.  Are you seriously suggesting it is discourteous to hold the door for someone in a wheelchair without getting their approval?  The number of people who would object to someone holding a door for them is minuscule. 

 

I've actually known a few fiercely independent people who do object to others helping them.  I still err on the side of being helpful, but there is a saying "no good deed goes unpunished."

[lenquixote66]

Some people on CC love to argue about everything. They remind me of a Twight . Zone episode.

 

 

I am visibly disabled and I truly appreciate people who hold doors open for me.I always smile and thank them.

[MicCanberra]

I have made offers of help for things like doors and ramps etc, and have had some rejected and others accepted.

[SRF]

The rule in sailing is, do NOT ever help without getting approval.  So the person knows you are helping.

 

You ask, and if they agree, then you help.  Otherwise, stay out of the way.

 

That seems to work well off the sail boat also.

[Kmkub]

3 minutes ago, SRF said:

 

That seems to work well off the sail boat also.

Also the grocery store, gas station, movie theater, etc.

 

I am perfectly able bodied and I have had men cut me off so they could get in front of me to "help" me with the door. 

 

I help elderly & disabled people a lot, but never without informing them of my plan.

[MicCanberra]

Sometimes it is easier just to make your intentions clear using communication.

[jagsfan]

I can’t imagine anyone  wanting an elevator door to hit their wheelchair and bounce off it. 

I appreciate anyone putting their hand out to stop the door from closing whether they are in the elevator or coming up behind me. And I’m on my feet sometimes with a walker or cane, sometimes without. 

I’d love to hear some opinions from wheelchair users. 

 

[ldubs]

Well, the rule I will continue with is to hold elevator doors for folks. Just seems like a common courtesy, but I guess some folks will find something wrong with it.  I can live with that.  

[AL3XCruise]

10 hours ago, SRF said:

The rule in sailing is, do NOT ever help without getting approval.  So the person knows you are helping.

 

You ask, and if they agree, then you help.  Otherwise, stay out of the way.

 

I think the issue with that comparison is that there are a lot more situations on a sail boat (or operating any equipment, really) where taking action without communicating first is inherently dangerous, potentially resulting in injury and damage. 

 

Not judging the approach, nor saying there isn't potential for injury if someone gets startled or pushed, but its not quite the same.

 

1 hour ago, jagsfan said:

I can’t imagine anyone  wanting an elevator door to hit their wheelchair and bounce off it.

 

Reminds me of a recent cruise.  A woman with a stroller is trying to get on to a nearly packed elevator, and the passengers are quietly talking to each other about how to rearrange everyone so there is room.  The woman angrily complains that the discussion is too loud and these people are going to wake the baby.  Of course, her nasty complaint is in a much louder voice than anyone else had been speaking!  

[MicCanberra]

Some people have no idea how they come across.

[SRF]

16 hours ago, ldubs said:

Well, the rule I will continue with is to hold elevator doors for folks. Just seems like a common courtesy, but I guess some folks will find something wrong with it.  I can live with that.  

 

It is not the holding of the door.

 

It is pushing past them to do so, without telling them what you are doing.

 

A simple, "let me grab the door for you" would go a long way to making it a less hostile act.

 

As MANY reports are here, there are those that push past people in wheelchairs or with canes or walkers, not to help, but to get on the elevator first.

[MicCanberra]

Quick or the dead for some, especially if trying to get to the buffet.

[ldubs]

5 hours ago, SRF said:

 

It is not the holding of the door.

 

It is pushing past them to do so, without telling them what you are doing.

 

A simple, "let me grab the door for you" would go a long way to making it a less hostile act.

 

As MANY reports are here, there are those that push past people in wheelchairs or with canes or walkers, not to help, but to get on the elevator first.

 

Yeah, no one should be pushing past anyone really, IMO.  Anything resembling a hostile act is not good.   The right thing to do is mostly just common sense.   

[ldubs]

5 hours ago, MicCanberra said:

Quick or the dead for some, especially if trying to get to the buffet.

 

[MicCanberra]

13 minutes ago, ldubs said:

 

Yeah, no one should be pushing past anyone really, IMO.  Anything resembling a hostile act is not good.   The right thing to do is mostly just common sense.   

I agree, pushing past even when with good intentions is still rude.

[dustyroad]

I haven't gone through all the replies but it amazes  me when I hear passengers complain about the food.  I have never gotten a bad meal on any of my cruises.  If you want a 5 star meal go some place on land that serves it, not a cruise ship.  Also parents that let their kids run around like crazy animals in the hall way at all hrs.  You are still parents even on vacation.  

[GUT2407]

3 minutes ago, dustyroad said:

I haven't gone through all the replies but it amazes  me when I hear passengers complain about the food.  I have never gotten a bad meal on any of my cruises.  If you want a 5 star meal go some place on land that serves it, not a cruise ship.  Also parents that let their kids run around like crazy animals in the hall way at all hrs.  You are still parents even on vacation.  

I’ve had some crap meals, but you can always grab something else.

[jwcruise1]

15 hours ago, dustyroad said:

Also parents that let their kids run around like crazy animals in the hall way at all hrs.  You are still parents even on vacation.  

So why should they CHANGE the way they parent just because they are on vacation?

[dustyroad]

57 minutes ago, jwcruise1 said:

So why should they CHANGE the way they parent just because they are on vacation?

 

LOL!  Good point.  

Edited March 28, 2019 by dustyroad

[MicCanberra]

Are the kids the problem or the parents?

[OCruisers]

So wish cruise ships would offer more to do between 1 - 5 on PORT days.  

[GUT2407]

2 hours ago, MicCanberra said:

Are the kids the problem or the parents?

For me it’s the kids, darn things cost me a small fortune 

[GUT2407]

46 minutes ago, OCruisers said:

So wish cruise ships would offer more to do between 1 - 5 on PORT days.  

But is there the demand??

[OCruisers]

57 minutes ago, GUT2407 said:

But is there the demand??

 

More people stay on the ship than you might expect ... ESPECIALLY on Caribbean Cruises.