DaveOKC Posted May 16, 2019 #1 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Yesterday was the final day to book under the current offer (cannot remember the name) which included free hotel service charge. So, this morning I rechecked my 2 upcoming reservations and noticed something interesting - both changed price, but one went up by $50 while the other declined by $50 (pp per week). Since the promotion I booked under is worth about $100 pp/week, I am not rebooking, but I found it interesting that one went up and the other down, plus the difference was about half of the promotion "value". For what its worth......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted May 16, 2019 Author #2 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Sorry that the title of this post got messed up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted May 16, 2019 #3 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) That's the HAL way of doing business. It seems they always raise prices during most major booking promotions. Last Fall when we booked our Alaska SS cruise for this July with the Explore 4 Promo the price dropped by $300pp for the SS the week after the X4 promo ended. We waited until last March when the same SS cabin dropped another $450pp so we rebooked saved over $1500 total on our original booking and gave up the X4 SBP and 2 PG dinners, we got to keep our original $200 OBC. Edited May 16, 2019 by terrydtx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted May 16, 2019 #4 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I just checked my N. Amsterdam alaska cruise for september. Every room class, every date in September, is showing as "Sold Out". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisingrob21 Posted May 16, 2019 #5 Share Posted May 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, terrydtx said: That's the HAL way of doing business. It seems they always raise prices during most major booking promotions. Last Fall when we booked our Alaska SS cruise for this July with the Explore 4 Promo the price dropped by $300pp for the SS the week after the X4 promo ended. We waited until last March when the same SS cabin dropped another $450pp so we rebooked saved over $1500 total on our original booking and gave up the X4 SBP and 2 PG dinners, we got to keep our original $200 OBC. seems like the last few years, the X4 deal has come with a pretty hefty price increase. The first year or two it was commonly the same price as a booking without the perks, now the math commonly doesn't pencil out. If you have a good TA, you can usually get quotes for both the X4 promo and without the promo. Some online TA's will show both also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare terrydtx Posted May 16, 2019 #6 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, cruisingrob21 said: seems like the last few years, the X4 deal has come with a pretty hefty price increase. The first year or two it was commonly the same price as a booking without the perks, now the math commonly doesn't pencil out. If you have a good TA, you can usually get quotes for both the X4 promo and without the promo. Some online TA's will show both also. When we first booked the X4 price and the Restricted fare (Non X4) was only a difference of $200pp and it as worth the extra cost. When we rebooked in March and saved almost $800pp our TA booked the restricted (non-promo) fare. At that time they still had the free gratuities promo and it was $300pp more for saving $105pp in gratuities which was such a ridiculous promo. Edited May 16, 2019 by terrydtx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted May 16, 2019 #7 Share Posted May 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, cruisingrob21 said: seems like the last few years, the X4 deal has come with a pretty hefty price increase. The first year or two it was commonly the same price as a booking without the perks, now the math commonly doesn't pencil out. If you have a good TA, you can usually get quotes for both the X4 promo and without the promo. Some online TA's will show both also. I remember when the X4 promo did not run the price up. Now I don't even bother to check out promos. I book as a solo and it's bad enough to pay the cruise fare for two people, but I am not paying a double price hike when I get the promo for only 1 person. Maybe if they'd give me 30 drinks per day... 🍸 🍷 🍾 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrislc Posted May 16, 2019 #8 Share Posted May 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said: I just checked my N. Amsterdam alaska cruise for september. Every room class, every date in September, is showing as "Sold Out". I think the website might be having issues as there were a number of cabins on the Veendam in July that we're still available and all categories are all now showing sold out. Seems unlikely that all those cabins would be booked over the course of a few hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted May 16, 2019 Author #9 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, RocketMan275 said: I just checked my N. Amsterdam alaska cruise for september. Every room class, every date in September, is showing as "Sold Out". This JUST happened on my Sept Alaska cruise as well. Must be doing some repricing I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syesmar Posted May 16, 2019 #10 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) I’ve noticed after a promo ends, there can be several days’ gap before the next one/ or better pricing. Like you said, sometimes the price goes down, sometimes up. Last year, I had my eye on a sailing. They had availability in the cabin I wanted but I was waiting on air and for a credit card promo to kick in, so I waited to put it on hold. When I called the next morning, the sailing was sold out. I thought surely it would return as available but it never did. One never really knows. Edited May 16, 2019 by syesmar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted May 16, 2019 #11 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, DaveOKC said: This JUST happened on my Sept Alaska cruise as well. Must be doing some repricing I bet. We're on the 14 Sep Nieuw Amsterdam. You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat04 Posted May 16, 2019 #12 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, jkrislc said: I think the website might be having issues..... I find that hard to believe 😂🤣 But in all seriousness, it does seem after a promo ends prices and the online ressie system go wacky. Edited May 16, 2019 by fatcat04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted May 16, 2019 #13 Share Posted May 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, fatcat04 said: I find that hard to believe 😂🤣 But in all seriousness, it does seem after a promo ends prices and the online ressie system go wacky. If you find that hard to believe, I have a bridge that I'm selling... It takes HAL a while to re-structure the pricing. I've noticed that during the change, the price you see on the first page of the process may be less than the price you see on the next page. Frustrating, to say the least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcat04 Posted May 16, 2019 #14 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 minute ago, 3rdGenCunarder said: If you find that hard to believe, I have a bridge that I'm selling... It takes HAL a while to re-structure the pricing. I've noticed that during the change, the price you see on the first page of the process may be less than the price you see on the next page. Frustrating, to say the least. Yes, the whole HAL website is an exercise in frustration. Rat in a maze but with no cheese at the end comes to mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveOKC Posted May 16, 2019 Author #15 Share Posted May 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said: We're on the 14 Sep Nieuw Amsterdam. You? Sep 9 Amsterdam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfish Posted May 16, 2019 #16 Share Posted May 16, 2019 6 hours ago, jkrislc said: I think the website might be having issues as there were a number of cabins on the Veendam in July that we're still available and all categories are all now showing sold out. Seems unlikely that all those cabins would be booked over the course of a few hours. Ya think? I just tried to check mine and the website says there is no such cruise. It shows up under My Account, but not when you do a search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger_77 Posted May 16, 2019 #17 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I just tried checking our cruise price by doing a dummy booking, but as usual, whenever I log in, when I get to choose your own stateroom, I end up with the Circle Of Death. I finally got tired of it (using several different browsers), I emailed in a complaint - not that it will do anything except give me the satisfaction of having complained. Grr. Smooth Sailing! 🙂🙂🙂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaktreerb Posted May 16, 2019 #18 Share Posted May 16, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, jkrislc said: I think the website might be having issues as there were a number of cabins on the Veendam in July that we're still available and all categories are all now showing sold out. Seems unlikely that all those cabins would be booked over the course of a few hours. HAL could have offered them to a TA that sells group bookings. Edited May 16, 2019 by oaktreerb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardmeyer Posted May 16, 2019 #19 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Same thing happened to two sailings on the Maasdam. Yesterday showed availability of all categories Today Sold Out for both sailings. At least curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oaktreerb Posted May 16, 2019 #20 Share Posted May 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, Ardmeyer said: Same thing happened to two sailings on the Maasdam. Yesterday showed availability of all categories Today Sold Out for both sailings. At least curious. I was on the line with HAL yesterday about the possibility of an upsell to a neptune suite for the May sailing . They refused to offer anything less than paying full price. This sailing was not sold out yesterday and neither was the June date. Maybe HAL is assigning guarantees or maybe a TA took over all remaining staterooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketMan275 Posted May 16, 2019 #21 Share Posted May 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, oaktreerb said: HAL could have offered them to a TA that sells group bookings. There are too many instances of "sold out" on multiple cruises. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare *Miss G* Posted May 16, 2019 #22 Share Posted May 16, 2019 1 hour ago, ger_77 said: I just tried checking our cruise price by doing a dummy booking, but as usual, whenever I log in, when I get to choose your own stateroom, I end up with the Circle Of Death I have that same problem and it’s driving me crazy! 22 minutes ago, RocketMan275 said: There are too many instances of "sold out" on multiple cruises. Agreed. There is definitely a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRPLE Posted May 16, 2019 #23 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Yep my Y1L showing SOLDOUT in August and it had lots of availability a couple of days ago.... something is weird for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybear Posted May 16, 2019 #24 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Oh, dear I was thinking that my stock was going to double with most of inventory sold out! 🙄 Unfortunately they may actually lose some real bookings! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted May 17, 2019 #25 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Sometimes they pull an entire cruise out of inventory while they're changing prices. When one person said a cruise went from available to full, I thought it could be guarantees, but if so many cruises are disappearing or suddenly full, it's either a BIG goof or they're taking some down to tweak prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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