Fingers Crossed MSC sails from US Soon. But when?

[BermudaBound2014]

15 minutes ago, KennyFla said:

 

You can still book a December cruise on MSC.  Whatever that means.  I just wish they would make a firm decision so we can plan.

 

As far as I can tell, it is only Virgin that has cancelled all of December. On the last round two rounds of cancellations, Virgin announced 2 days prior to the big 3 announcing cancellations. Not sure if the pattern will continue or not. We should know more by the 31st when the no-sail order expires, but with NCL stating it will take a full 60 days to ready a ship, I'm afraid 2020 sailings are slipping away :(.

 

When is your cruise scheduled to depart?

[Debde]

Hasn't NCL cancelled through March 2021?? I really gave up following so i could be wrong here.🥴

 

Honestly-I've always had my fingers crossed for November of 2021.

 

 

[BermudaBound2014]

25 minutes ago, Debde said:

Hasn't NCL cancelled through March 2021?? I really gave up following so i could be wrong here.🥴

 

Honestly-I've always had my fingers crossed for November of 2021.

 

 

 

No, NCL has not cancelled all cruises through March 2021. None of the main cruise lines have cancelled all cruises until March 2021, but some  have  cancelled  specific cruise markets  into 2021 (South America, Australia, Hawaii, etc..).

 

The Big three keep saying they are cruising in 2020 from the USA

[hamrag]

2 hours ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

....The Big three keep saying they are cruising in 2020 from the USA

 

But, we all know that's to keep the $$$'s rolling in....at least from those foolish enough to keep believing.....!

[sidari]

Posts on social media today that the Netherlands have advised people there not to visit Italy due to higher case numbers and that MSC there have suspended bookings. Not confirmed at this moment.

[Nunagoras]

Things are becoming very complex again here in Continental Europe again.

 

Italy is becoming a mess again. The Vatican has just announced today that Pope Francis will Celebrate Advent, Christmas and New Year season Masses privately with no people presence.

 

Spain is becoming an even worse mess again...

 

Even my own Portugal is starting to have its own record numbers both for new cases, Hospitalizations and deaths...

 

TBHH: For more than it may cost me, and it certainly costs, at least psychologically... But cruise returning is becoming my las priority these days... Indeed: Me thinks that being almost all the shipyards that build cruise ships European land, they should have done something to protect the cruise industry. To rent at least some of those ships to help as extra Hospitals for non Covid cases in some cities could have been an option...

 

...But indeed; for the sake of us all: I hope we all to stay here well and alive in an year term happily discussing our favorite hobby that is cruising... Meanwhile... Not for these days!...

 

Stay safe!... 😞

[rkacruiser]

On 10/27/2020 at 7:16 PM, Nunagoras said:

The Vatican has just announced today that Pope Francis will Celebrate Advent, Christmas and New Year season Masses privately with no people presence.

 

No Christmas Eve Mass televised?  This is the most disappointing news that I have received this week!  I was looking forward to that.  

[Fogfog]

9 hours ago, rkacruiser said:

 

No Christmas Eve Mass televised?  This is the most disappointing news that I have received this week!  I was looking forward to that.  

Maybe it will be televised yet they won't have the large audience in the piazza below?

Seems unreasonable to not televise when during times of crisis - the faith leaders should be out front to pray with and encourage believers.

 

We are thinking our B2B in Jan is going to be cancelled 😞 It IS a lot of $ as it is two YC sailings. We'll end up with FCC for the first leg - as we used FCC from a cancelled Sept sailing to pay for it...IF we can get the $ back for the second leg or chose a FCC we'll decide then. 

 

We have a TP in Sept Vancover to Tokyo (by way of Ak and Russia). I was thinking that was going to be fine and am not co certain now.

 

[Nunagoras]

12 hours ago, rkacruiser said:

 

No Christmas Eve Mass televised?  This is the most disappointing news that I have received this week!  I was looking forward to that.  

It will be like on the Easter Masses: Pope Francis will Celebrate them privately with no local attendance, but they will be televised and transmitted online. Disappointing? Certainly as well, but at least we can follow along spiritually...

 

Have a nice day!...

[rkacruiser]

10 hours ago, Nunagoras said:

It will be like on the Easter Masses: Pope Francis will Celebrate them privately with no local attendance, but they will be televised and transmitted online. Disappointing? Certainly as well, but at least we can follow along spiritually...

 

Have a nice day!...

 

I appreciate your encouraging words on a day that has been most discouraging for me.  

[cellfree]

Back to topic line, cruising from US, I hope soon, I have MSC booked in February and May, keeping hopeful, I realize some will reply "yeah" and others will reply "won't happen," it is all wait and see, and I do enjoy some anticipation as I wait.

[NCTribeFan]

I fully expect my HAL B2B in January to be cancelled, which will make me very sad as they were "free" casino offers.  Then have my first Celebrity booked for March.  THEN have my MSC B2B in late April (my replacement for an NLC TA I opted to cancel because of the cost and the uncertainty about European travel).

 

We'll see what happens when the no-sail order expires, the trending of virus infections, the development of a vaccine, and also what impact the election has on travel policy!

 

Wait and see is all we can do.

[Fogfog]

The no sail order from the US expires tom, yes?

[sidari]

Been lifted today.

[Geobugs]

Six weeks until my next cruise!

[NCTribeFan]

Has anyone actually read what the CDC posted today?  I did (yawn).  There's also an article here on CC's main page with a good summary.

 

This doesn't mean that sailing is going to immediately start back up.  It sounds like it could it still be months before there are any regular sailings and probably months after that before there's any semblance of "normalcy" with cruising.  And, if those early "test" cruises don't go well, who knows?

[BermudaBound2014]

26 minutes ago, NCTribeFan said:

Has anyone actually read what the CDC posted today?  I did (yawn).  There's also an article here on CC's main page with a good summary.

 

This doesn't mean that sailing is going to immediately start back up.  It sounds like it could it still be months before there are any regular sailings and probably months after that before there's any semblance of "normalcy" with cruising.  And, if those early "test" cruises don't go well, who knows?

Everyone should read the entire "Conditional Sail Order" released. This is a step in the right direction, but by no means does this even remotely imply cruising will resume immediately. https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/CDC-Conditional-Sail-Order_10_30_2020-p.pdf

 

 

Also, did you notice they are recommending 'volunteers' for the simulated requirements in phase 2? That could be very interesting. https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23792-cdc-to-require-simulated-voyages-here-s-what-they-are.html

 

Edited October 30, 2020 by BermudaBound2014

[rkacruiser]

5 minutes ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

Also, did you notice they are recommending 'volunteers' for the simulated requirements in phase 2? That could be very interesting. https://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/23792-cdc-to-require-simulated-voyages-here-s-what-they-are.html

 

 

Good old Cruise Industry News!  Their articles are always very informative.

 

In another post, I made the assumption before reading this that the volunteers were to be cruise line employees.  From what I just read, maybe not all will be?  

[BermudaBound2014]

2 minutes ago, rkacruiser said:

From what I just read, maybe not all will be?  

 

The MiamiHerald also implied 'regular' folks, but this news is so current that I have little faith in the media to report accurately. I suspect some details will still need to shake out. 

[hamrag]

2 hours ago, NCTribeFan said:

....This doesn't mean that sailing is going to immediately start back up.  It sounds like it could it still be months before there are any regular sailings and probably months after that before there's any semblance of "normalcy" with cruising.  And, if those early "test" cruises don't go well, who knows?

 

Absolutely, this 'Conditional Sail Order' reminded me of a 7 stage smoking cessation plan, used by many in the UK, back in the 80's. The main attraction was that you didn't actually stop until the 5th stage. So, in the cruise return context, at what stage in the phased plan and more pertinently when do passengers actually get to board.....answers on a postcard please!

[NCTribeFan]

But, fingers crossed that late April B2B will happen!  Doesn't sound hopeful for my Jan B2B on HAL, though.  X mid-March has seemed like the earliest but I haven't been too hopeful about that, even.

 

Still, it's better than having the no-sail order extended another month or two!

[BermudaBound2014]

1 hour ago, NCTribeFan said:

 

 

Still, it's better than having the no-sail order extended another month or two!

I was initially excited, but now I’m a bit sad. After reading the requirements Over again, it seems that the cdc is making it next to impossible, or at the very least extremely costly, to sail from the USA. 
 

I want to read the “technical” paper that the document keeps referring to. That will explain a lot. 
 

I also want to read the cruise line reactions to these conditions. Specifically how they plan to manage the “noNcommercial” transportation home for guests if covid is detected. The cdc required this of the Zandam passengers and to the best of my understanding HAL ended up charterIng planes to major cities and then driving guests home via private car for passengers. In the case of the upper peninsula in Michigan that could easily be a 10 hour taxi ride. Seems like a costly gamble. 
 

I wish I was happier with this latest development. Maybe some of you who are perpetually positive can help a girl out?At this moment im feeling defeated.

[KennyFla]

8 hours ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

I was initially excited, but now I’m a bit sad. After reading the requirements Over again, it seems that the cdc is making it next to impossible, or at the very least extremely costly, to sail from the USA. 
 

I want to read the “technical” paper that the document keeps referring to. That will explain a lot. 
 

I also want to read the cruise line reactions to these conditions. Specifically how they plan to manage the “noNcommercial” transportation home for guests if covid is detected. The cdc required this of the Zandam passengers and to the best of my understanding HAL ended up charterIng planes to major cities and then driving guests home via private car for passengers. In the case of the upper peninsula in Michigan that could easily be a 10 hour taxi ride. Seems like a costly gamble. 
 

I wish I was happier with this latest development. Maybe some of you who are perpetually positive can help a girl out?At this moment im feeling defeated.

 

I believe that the dock workers, cruise lines, high level politicians, and the public in general will unite and the CDC will be slapped down again.  These requirements are not about safety, they are a retaliation for being over ruled.   How dare we go against the bureaucracy.

[Formula280SS]

15 minutes ago, KennyFla said:

 

I believe that the dock workers, cruise lines, high level politicians, and the public in general will unite and the CDC will be slapped down again.  These requirements are not about safety, they are a retaliation for being over ruled.   How dare we go against the bureaucracy.

 

Yep. 

 

The document prelude in demonstrably biasedly based on Princess ships in January and February of 2020 in Asia (back when CDC said there is no need to wear a mask or lock down or worry about the Wuhan virus). 

 

Total intentional lack of reference to the cruise line protocols and successful resumption of cruises in Europe, of note MSC Grandiosa since August working with Italian (and Malta) local and national planning. 

 

PRETENDING, for the benefit of the low information general public, that the cruise lines have not "done a thing" so therefore here is truckload of regulations.

 

The CDC, Completely Destroying Cruising.

[hamrag]

9 hours ago, BermudaBound2014 said:

....I wish I was happier with this latest development. Maybe some of you who are perpetually positive can help a girl out?At this moment im feeling defeated.

 

I wish I could help you out, but it does seem that this Order is designed to defeat cruising.....

CDC = Completely Defeating Cruising.....