A little news from the CDC

[BlerkOne]

2 hours ago, Lee Cruiser said:

So do you still have to get tested if you have been vaccinated?

Probably not for the cruise line, for vaccinated cruises, but foreign ports can still have their own requirements.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/covid19-operations-manual-cso.html#testing-of-embarking-and-disembarking-passengers

 

 

Edited May 19, 2021 by BlerkOne
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[jfunk138]

4 hours ago, TNcruising02 said:

If it's a requirement to present a negative covid test when flying into the US or entering by land, then it makes sense to present a negative covid test when arriving by cruise ship.  I know someone who was exposed to covid and was told to wait four days before getting tested.
 

There is no testing required to enter the US by LAND.  Testing only applies to arrivals by air.

[embarkation75]

4 hours ago, cruisingguy007 said:

Might be a good reason to stick to 3/4 day cruises at the outset. No testing, no covid.  

Unvaccinated still have to test prior to embarkation regardless of cruise length. Nobody, and I mean nobody in a position of authority cruise or CDC is saying unvaccinated will get on a ship without testing. This also includes multiple restrictions on unvaccinated that won't apply to vaccinated passengers.

Edited May 19, 2021 by embarkation75

[TNcruising02]

11 minutes ago, jfunk138 said:

There is no testing required to enter the US by LAND.  Testing only applies to arrivals by air.

Hmm.  So a person can enter the US from another country by land without submitting a negative covid test, but has to submit one when flying into the country?  That makes no sense.  It should be one way or the other for both, along with cruises.

[hurricane0226]

15 minutes ago, TNcruising02 said:

Hmm.  So a person can enter the US from another country by land without submitting a negative covid test, but has to submit one when flying into the country?  That makes no sense.  It should be one way or the other for both, along with cruises.

You would think, but you know the way things go.

[Joebucks]

When you block out your preconceived dangers of how cruising is this death trap, and consider what the health orders are looking like through the rest of society, you'll understand cruising is approaching us again. It's asinine to think about outbreaks and quarantines anymore. 

[jfunk138]

10 hours ago, TNcruising02 said:

Hmm.  So a person can enter the US from another country by land without submitting a negative covid test, but has to submit one when flying into the country?  That makes no sense.  It should be one way or the other for both, along with cruises.

https://mx.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/covid-19-information/

"A negative COVID test is not currently required for travel by land border."

[kdr69]

14 hours ago, SRQbeachgirl said:

Just saw this over on the RCI board. Apparently the CDC just watered down the requirement for agreements with port health authorities. The CSO is going up in flames by the minute!

 

What if a cruise ship operator is unable to document the approval of all local health authorities for a Phase 2A port agreement?

In lieu of documenting the approval of all local health authorities of jurisdiction, the cruise ship operator may instead submit to CDC a signed statement from a local health authority, on the health authority’s official letterhead, indicating that the health authority has declined to participate in deliberations and/or sign the Phase 2A port agreement, i.e., a “Statement of Non-Participation.”

To me this is interesting as in why would you need this statement unless there have already been instances of Health Authorities declining to participate.  Or are they anticipating that this will be an issue.  Makes me wonder.....

[cscurlock]

14 hours ago, SRQbeachgirl said:

 

From what I have read, these agreements were a serious barrier for the cruise lines, so this may get things moving.

While it might be a barrier.  Public pressure as happened last year can make a local authority refusing the disembarkation of infected passengers.  Could get very ugly without an agreement on how an outbreak will be handled once the ship returns.  Local citizens were at the port trying to block the people from coming off the ship.  If this is true then that a pretty big pass.

[ProgRockCruiser]

For those that want to read a news article about the mediation (very brief, though):

 

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/05/19/floridas-cruise-line-lawsuit-against-cdc-sent-to-mediation/

[ontheweb]

28 minutes ago, ProgRockCruiser said:

For those that want to read a news article about the mediation (very brief, though):

 

https://www.clickor

30 minutes ago, ProgRockCruiser said:

For those that want to read a news article about the mediation (very brief, though):

 

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2021/05/19/floridas-cruise-line-lawsuit-against-cdc-sent-to-mediation/

lando.com/news/local/2021/05/19/floridas-cruise-line-lawsuit-against-cdc-sent-to-mediation/

That article really does not say much.

 

It does mention that Norwegian cruise line wants to start with fully vaccinated cruises, but fails to mention that they want to move out of Florida. So while DeSantis is claiming he wants to save the cruise industry and its contribution to Florida's economy, he might be driving out one of the 3 biggest companies at the same time with his you cannot ask if someone is vaccinated law.

[TNcruising02]

17 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

That article really does not say much.

 

It does mention that Norwegian cruise line wants to start with fully vaccinated cruises, but fails to mention that they want to move out of Florida. So while DeSantis is claiming he wants to save the cruise industry and its contribution to Florida's economy, he might be driving out one of the 3 biggest companies at the same time with his you cannot ask if someone is vaccinated law.

Since you can get on a plane and sit for hours 8 inches from another person without being vaccinated, I think DeSantis wants the cruise ships to be treated fairly and consistently with other forms of travel, dining, hotels, and pools.

[Radiioman46]

22 minutes ago, ontheweb said:

That article really does not say much.

 

It does mention that Norwegian cruise line wants to start with fully vaccinated cruises, but fails to mention that they want to move out of Florida. So while DeSantis is claiming he wants to save the cruise industry and its contribution to Florida's economy, he might be driving out one of the 3 biggest companies at the same time with his you cannot ask if someone is vaccinated law.

Ppl forget, or, not mentioning the 'why' the Gov is against Vaccine Passports(general term). He has proven time and again, that he is For cruising in FL opening back up.

 

However, he will not sacrifice the Constitution and the unintended consequences of allowing anyone(or business) to force ppl to take vaccinations, in order for them to pursue happiness.

 

Now, there may be a work around if any of the destinations on the itinerary require the vaccinations, as that would take the decision process out of the hands of the cruise lines. Maybe?

Edited May 19, 2021 by Radiioman46

[BlerkOne]

4 minutes ago, Radiioman46 said:

Ppl forget, or, not mentioning the 'why' the Gov is against Vaccine Passports(general term). He has proven time and again, that he is For cruising in FL opening back up.

 

However, he will not sacrifice the Constitution and the unintended consequences of allowing anyone(or business) to force ppl to take vaccinations, in order for them to pursue happiness.

 

Now, there may be a work around if any of the destinations on the itinerary require the vaccinations, as that would take the decision process out of the hands of the cruise lines. Maybe?

There is no Constitutional right to cruise. Nobody is forced to get a regular passport unless their optional activities require one. There is no difference 

[Radiioman46]

18 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

There is no Constitutional right to cruise. Nobody is forced to get a regular passport unless their optional activities require one. There is no difference 

That's your opinion, not fact. It will eventually be sorted out, but I think that Gov DeSantis is a little bit more of a Constitutional authority than the average cruiser on this board. Fact check me.

[BlerkOne]

22 minutes ago, Radiioman46 said:

That's your opinion, not fact. It will eventually be sorted out, but I think that Gov DeSantis is a little bit more of a Constitutional authority than the average cruiser on this board. Fact check me.

I have no doubt he thinks he is. The courts will decide if necessary.