Alaska back on

[Eli_6]

https://www.carnivalcorp.com/news-releases/news-release-details/three-carnival-corporation-cruise-line-brands-plan-resume?fbclid=IwAR24bIIIUQ12DK0Pynz34MqJqLRgmFQyi9HJgWXT_JrbInn0tkDMaLeN8F4

[TNcruising02]

That's great news!

[pc_load_letter]

"Plans for these itineraries to fulfill obligations under the Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA) are expected to be approved."

 

Isn't the elephant in the room Canada? Did they change their mind?

 

I did not see anything about POTUS signing the Alaska Tourism Restoration Act (ATRA)

 

 

[ProgRockCruiser]

The real interesting bit is what I posted in a different thread:
 

Based on recent guidance from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and close collaboration with Alaskan officials, Princess Cruises, Holland America Line and Carnival Cruise Line plan to resume guest cruise operations for a partial season in Alaska, each with one ship sailing round-trip. These Alaska cruises are available for guests who have received their final dose of an approved COVID-19 vaccine at least 14 days prior to the beginning of the cruise and have proof of vaccination. Crew vaccinations will be in accordance with CDC guidelines.

 

Bold my emphasis.

 

42 minutes ago, pc_load_letter said:

I did not see anything about POTUS signing the Alaska Tourism Restoration Act (ATRA)

I guess everyone is counting on it, and these announcements add a little pressure to "get it done".

[pc_load_letter]

2 minutes ago, ProgRockCruiser said:

The real interesting bit is what I posted in a different thread:
 

Based on recent guidance from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and close collaboration with Alaskan officials, Princess Cruises, Holland America Line and Carnival Cruise Line plan to resume guest cruise operations for a partial season in Alaska, each with one ship sailing round-trip. These Alaska cruises are available for guests who have received their final dose of an approved COVID-19 vaccine at least 14 days prior to the beginning of the cruise and have proof of vaccination. Crew vaccinations will be in accordance with CDC guidelines.

 

Bold my emphasis.

 

I guess everyone is counting on it, and these announcements add a little pressure to "get it done".

 

Quid pro quo with the cruise lines and the feds perhaps.

 

You give us this....and we'll play ball with requiring vaxs.

[lizord]

3 minutes ago, ProgRockCruiser said:

The real interesting bit is what I posted in a different thread:
 

Based on recent guidance from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and close collaboration with Alaskan officials, Princess Cruises, Holland America Line and Carnival Cruise Line plan to resume guest cruise operations for a partial season in Alaska, each with one ship sailing round-trip. These Alaska cruises are available for guests who have received their final dose of an approved COVID-19 vaccine at least 14 days prior to the beginning of the cruise and have proof of vaccination. Crew vaccinations will be in accordance with CDC guidelines.

 

Bold my emphasis.

 

I guess everyone is counting on it, and these announcements add a little pressure to "get it done".

Are Alaska sailings particularly profitable? Maybe CCL is will go for a quicker restart in AK while they can and run other cruise markets differently. The HAL pricing is available on the 3 word cruise site based in Houston, and it looks pretty high.

[BlerkOne]

49 minutes ago, pc_load_letter said:

"Plans for these itineraries to fulfill obligations under the Passenger Vessel Services Act (PVSA) are expected to be approved."

 

Isn't the elephant in the room Canada? Did they change their mind?

 

I did not see anything about POTUS signing the Alaska Tourism Restoration Act (ATRA)

 

 

The Senate and House voted unanimously. I don't think there is any doubt.

[pc_load_letter]

3 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

House voted unanimously.

 

double post opps

Edited May 20, 2021 by pc_load_letter

[pc_load_letter]

3 minutes ago, BlerkOne said:

The Senate and House voted unanimously. I don't think there is any doubt.

 

Ha ha, welll...one step to go though

 

Never the less, I wish it applied to CA cruises and not needing to go to Mexico. Two days at sea and a stop in Catalina would be perfect weekend jaunt for me as we rarely got off in Ensenada anyways.

Edited May 20, 2021 by pc_load_letter

[lizord]

"Carnival Cruise Line has already opened Alaska sailings departing from Seattle beginning July 27, with weekly departures through September 14 aboard Carnival Miracle. There are seven 7-day cruises featuring calls in Juneau, Skagway, and Ketchikan, as well as scenic cruising in Tracy Arm Fjord. The September 14 departure is an 8-day cruise with an additional stop in Icy Strait Point. Carnival Cruise Line is also working to finalize its plans to operate Carnival Horizon from Miami, and Carnival Vista and Carnival Breeze from Galveston in July. Itineraries along with specific details about protocols are expected to be finalized and announced next week."

 

From the Press release, how are they planning an 8 day cruise in September, I thought CDC said 7 day max. excited to see the protocols for the Galveston Sailings, I don't know why they would need to release itineraries, they already exist.

 

Edit: also how is CCL selling these sailings on the site without notice of the vaccine requirement, when will that appear on the site? Guests who can't get vaccinated, do they get the full refund or $600 OBC FCC option?

Edited May 20, 2021 by lizord

[BlerkOne]

44 minutes ago, lizord said:

Edit: also how is CCL selling these sailings on the site without notice of the vaccine requirement, when will that appear on the site? Guests who can't get vaccinated, do they get the full refund or $600 OBC FCC option?

Carnival has only offered OBC for cruises Carnival cancelled.

 

As Carnival hasn't finalized Covid protocols or received permission from the CDC to sail, how could they notify people of covid cruising requirements. They are still changing.

 

[lizord]

1 minute ago, BlerkOne said:

Carnival has only offered OBC for cruises Carnival cancelled.

 

As Carnival hasn't finalized Covid protocols or received permission from the CDC to sail, how could they notify people of covid cruising requirements. They are still changing.

 

I wonder what Princess and Hollands plans are for guests already booked who can't or won't get the vaccine. I don't think any cruiseline has gotten "permission" from the CDC to sail out of the US.

[BlerkOne]

1 minute ago, lizord said:

I wonder what Princess and Hollands plans are for guests already booked who can't or won't get the vaccine. I don't think any cruiseline has gotten "permission" from the CDC to sail out of the US.

Who knows, but they are also requiring vaccines for Alaska cruises this year. Otherwise they would have to do test cruises and the season will be short enough as it is. I doubt NCL or Royal have finalized protocols, either.

[richstowe]

Great news

Three Carnival Corporation Cruise Line Brands Plan to Resume Cruising in U.S. with Alaska Sailings in July

Princess Cruises, Holland America Line and Carnival Cruise Line plan to return to service from the U.S. this summer with Alaska itineraries departing directly from Seattle

 

 

https://www.carnivalcorp.com/news-releases/news-release-details/three-carnival-corporation-cruise-line-brands-plan-resume

 

[Shakatime]

20 minutes ago, lizord said:

I wonder what Princess and Hollands plans are for guests already booked who can't or won't get the vaccine. I don't think any cruiseline has gotten "permission" from the CDC to sail out of the US.

Hopefully cancel them unless they gat vax’d!

[mondello]

2 hours ago, lizord said:

Are Alaska sailings particularly profitable? Maybe CCL is will go for a quicker restart in AK while they can and run other cruise markets differently. The HAL pricing is available on the 3 word cruise site based in Houston, and it looks pretty high.

I know a lot of excursions in Alaska are rather expensive (but worth it), they may see a higher revenue stream from that.

[BlerkOne]

40 minutes ago, mondello said:

I know a lot of excursions in Alaska are rather expensive (but worth it), they may see a higher revenue stream from that.

Everything is more expensive in Alaska. I suspect bar revenue and casino profits are lower as Alaska is not the party destination the Caribbean is 

[Purvis1231]

I hope this happens but I have serious doubts the feds will allow it. 

 

[BlerkOne]

25 minutes ago, Purvis1231 said:

I hope this happens but I have serious doubts the feds will allow it. 

 

Which Feds are you referring to? The Carnival brands will be requiring vaccines and I don't see them objecting to much else.

[eroller]

The President of Carnival Cruise Line made a big deal about proclaiming CCL would not require vaccinations because no other industry requires them, and Carnival carries so many children.  Looks like she is eating those words with these Alaska cruises.  Honestly I don't think any of the lines know what is up or down right now.  It's not entirely their fault of course because much is out of their control, but they may want to refrain from making broad statements that they will regret later.  They end up losing credibility.  

[TNcruising02]

13 minutes ago, eroller said:

The President of Carnival Cruise Line made a big deal about proclaiming CCL would not require vaccinations because no other industry requires them, and Carnival carries so many children.  Looks like she is eating those words with these Alaska cruises.  Honestly I don't think any of the lines know what is up or down right now.  It's not entirely their fault of course because much is out of their control, but they may want to refrain from making broad statements that they will regret later.  They end up losing credibility.  

I am not surprised that cruises out of Seattle will be for fully vaccinated.  I would also not be surprised if they do that with California cruises, New York, and a few of the other eastern ports.

Edited May 21, 2021 by TNcruising02

[eroller]

27 minutes ago, TNcruising02 said:

I am not surprised that cruises out of Seattle will be for fully vaccinated.  I would also not be surprised if they do that with California cruises, New York, and a few of the other eastern ports.

 

 

I'm not surprised either.  I just think it was silly and premature for the head of the line to proclaim that Carnival would not require vaccinations.  Obviously she was superseded by the head of Carnival Corporation, and it should be amusing to see her backpedal.  More PR spin I'm sure.  

[BlerkOne]

Christine never said Carnival wouldn't require vaccines, she just said there were no plans to do so. That was before the Alaska bill passed the Senate and House.

 

Arnold Donald said months ago he though some cruises could require vaccines.

 

I don't see any spin coming from Carnival.

 

[CI66774]

10 hours ago, BlerkOne said:

The Senate and House voted unanimously. I don't think there is any doubt.

Senate voted already?

[ontheweb]

2 hours ago, CI66774 said:

Senate voted already?

Yes, another passed by unanimous consent.