PSA: No magnets are safe - stolen door magnets on Encore

[Two Wheels Only]

9 minutes ago, cruiseny4life said:

I'd like to see NCL enforce no housekeeping carts in the hallway since those block a good 50% of the hall. I may be joking. Or I may not be, but housekeeping carts = mobility scooters to me.

 

The carts should have an employee nearby associated with them. If needed, a cart can be quickly moved by the employee. A wheelchair/scooter would also have a person nearby but the mere fact that the person has mobility issues makes them less reliable to quickly move something out of the hallway. Plus, the person could be asleep whereas the employee with the cart probably isn't asleep (I do wonder, sometimes...).

 

13 minutes ago, cruiseny4life said:

Oh, and I'm crazy enough to think it's ok for folks to put their dirty dishes in the hallway. 

 

It isn't. The public passing through the hallway shouldn't have to be subject to messy dishes. It's best to keep them in the stateroom until the steward can take care of them. 

 

15 minutes ago, cruiseny4life said:

I'm absolutely in the school of, magnets are no more a safety issue than the towels on the housekeeping carts. If it makes someone happy (and doesn't damage the door), then magnetize away!

 

NCL's ship, NCL's rules. If NCL (for whatever reason) doesn't want people to decorate the exterior doors, guest shouldn't decorate the exterior doors. 

 

17 minutes ago, cruiseny4life said:

To the OP, I'm sorry your magnets were stolen! 

 

I agree. It's unlikely that this was NCL's doing. I believe that it was another guest who figured that since they were leaving the ship soon, nobody would catch them. 

[ChiefMateJRK]

I can't for the life of me understand why anybody would want a magnet bad enough to jack it from somebody else's door.  What are they going to do with it?  Stick it on their refrigerator as a daily reminder that they are a thief?  Give it to a friend so that they become a possessor of stolen property?  What world do such people live in?  They can afford a cruise but can't afford to plop down a buck ninety-five at the next port's souvenir shop.  As I often say, "there are all kinds of stupid in this world."  Yikes!!

[dlh015]

5 minutes ago, ChiefMateJRK said:

Stick it on their refrigerator as a daily reminder that they are a thief?

Y'know, I thought the very same thing. Then I remembered the world we live in today...it's likely (sad but true) that the thief would indeed display the magnet *and* brag about how they lifted off a cabin door...

 

<sigh>

[CptBoatface]

We had a scooter in the hall on the Bliss last week. And no pack of rats absconded with my magnet 

[dmwnc1959]

42 minutes ago, cruiseny4life said:

 

 
 

Just….WOW! 😳 😳 😳 

[david_sobe]

People steal the craziest things.  I was a store detective when I was in college and they would teach you there were 2 types of thieves:  The professional who goes to the store to purposely steal things and the spontaneous thief who just thinks no one will notice or care and takes something relatively small.  People steal the dumbest stuff.  In my first apartment I used to have a pair of flip flops outside my door to take the trash out.  Old, worn and just used to walk to the trash bin.  Someone stole them.  You would be amazed how many little lawn ornaments are stolen from people's yards all the time.  Someone drives by, admires it and then just takes it.  As they say: If its not locked down someone will steal it.  Sadly the same is for cruise magnets 🥺

[dlh015]

12 minutes ago, david_sobe said:

You would be amazed how many little lawn ornaments are stolen from people's yards all the time.

LOL!!!  Not just little things...one of my buddies down in Texas (around Houston) had 2 of those big concrete lions on each side at the end of his driveway...house is only like 30 or 40 feet away.

 

Somebody stole them one night!

 

Sorta like these but larger and heavier:

https://www.amazon.com/Concrete-Handmade-Figurine-Guardian-Sculpture/dp/B0BXLDWT2M

 

 

Edited March 11 by dlh015

[Travelling2Some]

Way back in high school I knew somebody who shoplifted from Walmart regularly.  I had to ask her why she didn't go to higher end stores instead since, obviously, price was no object.  All stealing is wrong of course, but that there is just common sense.  My economy compact car is 10 years old and one of the benefits of owning it is that nobody sensible would steal it.

[Tenderpaw]

15 hours ago, cruiseny4life said:

They do occasionally get stored in the hallways. NCL does do a better job at enforcing this than Carnival did. Carnival actually had a similar policy. They're just enforcing it also.

 

I'd like to see NCL enforce no housekeeping carts in the hallway since those block a good 50% of the hall. I may be joking. Or I may not be, but housekeeping carts = mobility scooters to me. Oh, and I'm crazy enough to think it's ok for folks to put their dirty dishes in the hallway. 

 

Oh wait. We're talking about magnets. Yikes! However did we get to scooters in the first place? I'm absolutely in the school of, magnets are no more a safety issue than the towels on the housekeeping carts. If it makes someone happy (and doesn't damage the door), then magnetize away!

 

We're not talking Holland America (or Disney) style magnets and door decorations here!

 

 

To the OP, I'm sorry your magnets were stolen! 

 

This is an example of why cruise lines ban things.  Someone always has to go and do something crazy and ruin a fun thing for everyone else.  Like the person who hid 500 ducks on the one of the Disney ships.

 

We were on the Prima in January and had a couple of magnets on the door and a couple on the wall to help us find the cabin.  One of the wall ones was jacked on the second to last day and we figured it was a kid because the kid's club was nearby.  Annoying but you don't put anything out there you don't mind losing.  And no, we didn't know they weren't allowed.

 

[rxlowry]

15 hours ago, cruiseny4life said:wait. We're talking about magnets. Yikes! However did we get to scooters in the first place? I'm absolutely in the school of, magnets are no more a safety issue than the towels on the housekeeping carts. If it makes someone happy (and doesn't damage the door), then magnetize away!

 

We're not talking Holland America (or Disney) style magnets and door decorations here!

 

 

To the OP, I'm sorry your magnets were stolen! 

 

This is the excessive behavior that causes many things to disappear or get banned. 
Do people decorate hotel room doors too?

[cruiseny4life]

19 minutes ago, Tenderpaw said:

This is an example of why cruise lines ban things.  Someone always has to go and do something crazy and ruin a fun thing for everyone else.  Like the person who hid 500 ducks on the one of the Disney ships.

 

 

1 minute ago, rxlowry said:

This is the excessive behavior that causes many things to disappear or get banned. 
Do people decorate hotel room doors too?

I do not condone the amount of...ummm...crap on that door! A magnet here and there - fine by me! An entire vision board on the door and walls - yea, that needs to go! 

 

But, I don't think this should lead to the banning of anything (not saying you're saying it will). I work in corporate HR (yep, I be an office drone - think Office Space). That's Office Space. Not The Office! I'm not a Toby. At least I sure hope not. The point is - we don't ban things because an employee does it. We work with the specific employee to help them understand why what they did is inappropriate.

 

Cruise lines should do this too. Educate the retired teacher (it has to be a former teacher, right) on why sticking 100 pieces of junk on the door, ceiling, and walls is inappropriate. Don't ban it for all. If someone has a "F*$# ________ and F*$& you too for voting for him" on their stateroom door. Well, educate them on why that's inappropriate. Don't ban magnets for all.

And yes, I understand NCL does have a regulation that any type of decoration is banned. It's their cruise line. They can do such things. I don't have to agree with it, but I also feel no desire whatsoever to decorate my door. That would mean packing more crap and that doesn't feel like a vacation to me. 

[G-DawgMN]

16 hours ago, ChiefMateJRK said:

I can't for the life of me understand why anybody would want a magnet bad enough to jack it from somebody else's door.  What are they going to do with it?  Stick it on their refrigerator as a daily reminder that they are a thief?  Give it to a friend so that they become a possessor of stolen property?  What world do such people live in?  They can afford a cruise but can't afford to plop down a buck ninety-five at the next port's souvenir shop.  As I often say, "there are all kinds of stupid in this world."  Yikes!!

 

 Well you take that magnet and stick it to the lock on your stolen luggage!

[NYcruzzer]

19 hours ago, graphicguy said:

Maybe people view them like ducks…you see them..you keep them!

Woof, I hope that same principle doesn't apply to my luggage out in the hall in front of my cabin.

[UKstages]

1 hour ago, Tenderpaw said:

This is an example of why cruise lines ban things.

 

1 hour ago, rxlowry said:

This is the excessive behavior that causes many things to disappear or get banned. 

 

perhaps. but door decorations were actually banned on NCL due to valid fire and safety concerns, not because people were stealing magnets or papier-mâché effigies.

 

i'm thankful for that and support that.

 

1 hour ago, Tenderpaw said:

We were on the Prima in January and had a couple of magnets on the door and a couple on the wall to help us find the cabin.

 

i have found the numbers adjacent to the door to be a great help in finding my cabin. they are invariably sequential and unique, with no cabin numbers repeated. i'd never be able to find my cabin without this helpful guidance and i recommend this method to all concerned about the ban on door decorations.

 

as for magnets on the wall... presumably we're talking about the wall in the hallway outside your cabin? i can understand why some guests think they "own" the door and have a right to decorate it (they don't), but the adjoining wall? really? you placed a magnet in a public walkway? and expected it to remain there?

[elcuchio24]

19 hours ago, www3traveler said:

Carnival is also BANNING all Mobility Scooters that can fit through a cabin doorway.  Scooters must be able be stored in your cabin.

 

about time 

[rxlowry]

59 minutes ago, UKstages said:

 

 

perhaps. but door decorations were actually banned on NCL due to valid fire and safety concerns, not because people were stealing magnets or papier-mâché effigies.

 

i'm thankful for that and support that.

 

 

i have found the numbers adjacent to the door to be a great help in finding my cabin. they are invariably sequential and unique, with no cabin numbers repeated. i'd never be able to find my cabin without this helpful guidance and i recommend this method to all concerned about the ban on door decorations.

 

as for magnets on the wall... presumably we're talking about the wall in the hallway outside your cabin? i can understand why some guests think they "own" the door and have a right to decorate it (they don't), but the adjoining wall? really? you placed a magnet in a public walkway? and expected it to remain there?

Ok change to leads to be enforced. But the excess people go to…bringing home 8 bottles of Vueve, 500 ducks, plates of cookies, lobster tails…that’s why things are gone 

[Tenderpaw]

1 hour ago, UKstages said:

 

 

 

i have found the numbers adjacent to the door to be a great help in finding my cabin. they are invariably sequential and unique, with no cabin numbers repeated. i'd never be able to find my cabin without this helpful guidance and i recommend this method to all concerned about the ban on door decorations.

 

as for magnets on the wall... presumably we're talking about the wall in the hallway outside your cabin? i can understand why some guests think they "own" the door and have a right to decorate it (they don't), but the adjoining wall? really? you placed a magnet in a public walkway? and expected it to remain there?

 

Thanks for your helpful response about the numbers on the wall.  No one would have thought of that without your witty input. 

 

The reality is a couple a magnets on the door or wall aren't the reason for the "ban".  It's because of the excessiveness of a few on every voyage.  Corporations will always use a safety argument for policy if they can because it sounds much better than "because a few clowns are excessive with door decorations, causing damage, and we don't want to police it, they are all now banned".

[UKstages]

and the folks who argue that point invariably are the same who justify surreptitiously vaping on the pool deck, in the nonsmoking casino and in the MDR. and who justify hogging chairs and who justify bring controlled substances onboard and who smoke cigarettes on their balconies. and who justify the sharing of drink packages. and who ask for their balcony dividers to be opened. and who justify the breaking of many other rules while onboard.

 

"i'm breaking this rule responsibly, it's OK if i do this because i know what i'm doing, there's no real safety or fire issue, that's just silly. i know better than NCL's fire wardens and risk assessors. and it's because of these other people over there, not me, that we can't have nice things."

 

slope just got a whole lot more slippery.

 

Edited March 12 by UKstages

[julig22]

2 hours ago, Tenderpaw said:

The reality is a couple a magnets on the door or wall aren't the reason for the "ban".  It's because of the excessiveness of a few on every voyage.  Corporations will always use a safety argument for policy if they can because it sounds much better than "because a few clowns are excessive with door decorations, causing damage, and we don't want to police it, they are all now banned".

True. However, crepe paper streamers are flammable and if there is a fire in the hallway and you happen to be in an OV cabin it's not looking good for you.  Using tape to hold up those streamers takes off the paint. Somebody has to fix that, not to mention the additional work when the decorations are left behind for someone else to clean up.

Could you imagine the conversations on CC if, instead of "banning" decorations entirely, NCL policy said something like "decorations that don't do any damage and aren't flammable, offensive, or over-the-top are allowed."

Much easier to say no and then look the other way.

[JGander]

Add your name to any custom magnets, this makes them less attractive.

 

Place a pineapple on them and people will be less inclined to steal them for fear of being labeled a swinger.

[Travelling2Some]

18 minutes ago, JGander said:

Add your name to any custom magnets, this makes them less attractive.

 

Place a pineapple on them and people will be less inclined to steal them for fear of being labeled a swinger.

True.  That was my point in saying that including the specific ship name and date turns your  magnets into attractive souvenirs for thieves.  Adding your names/pineapple/home town would kill the buzz for them.  This is exactly the reason that many high end hotels have stopped putting their logo on their towels.  

[Davechipp74]

On 3/11/2024 at 5:19 PM, dlh015 said:

LOL!!!  Not just little things...one of my buddies down in Texas (around Houston) had 2 of those big concrete lions on each side at the end of his driveway...house is only like 30 or 40 feet away.

 

Somebody stole them one night!

 

Sorta like these but larger and heavier:

https://www.amazon.com/Concrete-Handmade-Figurine-Guardian-Sculpture/dp/B0BXLDWT2M

 

 

I had a cement lawn jockey with working lantern  stolen off my front lawn just last week, I loved that little guy, it was there for 6 years, it weighed over 100 lbs. 

[ChiefMateJRK]

Cmon' folks.  Work smarter, not harder.  Just take that gaudy red handkerchief off your luggage handle and tie it around the door knob.  End of cruise, reverse the process.  Do I have to do all of the thinking around here?

[AllHandsAstern]

I have a hypothesis: there is a direct correlation to how much junk someone puts on the door, and how insufferable that someone is as a table mate in the dining room.

I don't want to know about your nephew's baby mama! Or your skin condition! Or how you didn't like your last table mates cause they asked for a different table!

[floridafish]

Are people really that attention starved that they need to place magnets on their cabin doors? I've been fortunate enough to have travelled around the world by land and sea. Never once did I have the impulse to decorate my hotel room door. And no hotel would allow it.

Cruise ship operators are most like concerned about damage to the door surface and I don't blame them.