Man Overboard Oasis - Picked up by Disney Magic

Interesting about the way to make your clothes a floating device. Will have to try it this summer in my pool. That way if it doesn't work, I won't drown:)

I can't believe a passenger actually HEARD this guy from his balcony at 6 am in choppy seas and moderate winds. That was a million in one odds rescue. Needle in a haystack. He owes his life to that observant passenger!

As a 56 year old dude, waking up at 5am is sort of the thing I do... If my DW was asleep I would be out on my balcony... if he yelled loud... hearing him I might...

Just saying.... cruising has the right folks to find someone at that time..:D

jc

Our local FOX news station just facebooked this story, in it they stated " cameras saw the man go overboard at 6:07 am" and that the disney passenger found them at 7:31 am. It went on to say the passenger spent over 5 hours in the water. I asked how is it that after 1.5 hours in the water it took 3.5 hours to turn around and lower life boats. I further noted how the story has moved from rogue wave to a well known lawyer spewing his ideas bout the incident and how it was initially reported as a fall of the bow due to a rogue wave.... they replied "we relied on CNN sources for our article"

Independent reporting and fact checking are no longer part of our news cycle, sadly. :-(

As a 56 year old dude, waking up at 5am is sort of the thing I do... If my DW was asleep I would be out on my balcony... if he yelled loud... hearing him I might...

 

Just saying.... cruising has the right folks to find someone at that time..:D

 

jc

I've done my share of hours and days long search patterns at sea and it is very very hard to hear something at sea on a windy and choppy day. Add to that how high balconies are generally from the seapoint, it really is impressive- and so so lucky!

But thank God for you early birds! :-D He would not have made it otherwise.

Interesting about the way to make your clothes a floating device. Will have to try it this summer in my pool. That way if it doesn't work, I won't drown:)

Might not work so well with typical cruise attire... We might need to revisit dress codes as a safety topic. [emoji6]

Maybe this has been asked but... if Oasis has a video, why were they not doing a search? Doesn't someone monitor the cameras?

Also, was this guy travelling alone?

Maybe this has been asked but... if Oasis has a video, why were they not doing a search? Doesn't someone monitor the cameras?

Also, was this guy travelling alone?

I doubt that someone constantly monitors all of the cameras. They are probably there more for after-the-fact information (like was someone pushed, did they jump, etc.).

Maybe this has been asked but... if Oasis has a video, why were they not doing a search? Doesn't someone monitor the cameras?

Also, was this guy travelling alone?

There are lots and lots of cameras on ships. You have privacy behind your cabin door and inside the restrooms, but do not be surprised if you are on camera in all sorts of other places, even on your balcony, as cameras monitor there since Princess had a bad fire which started on a balcony.

I believe there are so many cameras, they do not watch the feed from each full time, but selected ones are likely monitored heavily. The feed from the rest can be pulled and viewed if an issue arises (like this one or lesser things like a fall or a fight).

If the man jumped when nobody was looking, and nobody reported him missing, then they had not reason to be searching for him.

I suspect most cameras are simply recorded on DVR and then reviewed if there is a need. Cameras in areas prone to theft might be monitored continually such as shops and the casino. Highly restricted areas of the ship may be also.

I suspect most cameras are simply recorded on DVR and then reviewed if there is a need. Cameras in areas prone to theft might be monitored continually such as shops and the casino. Highly restricted areas of the ship may be also.

I think you're probably right. There would be way too many cameras to have all of them continuously monitored in real time. A previous poster (on one of these threads - can't remember which) who was aboard Oasis said he had learned from crew that the ship video showed the guy climbing over a balcony railing (maybe on deck 6?) onto the top of a lifeboat and going into the sea from there. He didn't say what time, though.

The young man was traveling with family according to the news stories which said his family disembarked in Cozumel, where he was taken to the hospital. His family evidently didn't know he was missing or surely they'd have reported it.

Judy

I guess an article titled, "Man goes overboard and family does not even realize he's missing" would not garnish that much attention so "Man goes overboard and Royal Caribbean does not even realize he's missing" is the story of the week.

Crazy how these things take on a life of their own.

If this 22 year old navigated his way to the lifeboat and then jumped, he clearly knew what he was doing. Along with his life saving techniques, how close they were to shore... I'll be curious to see how this plays out in the next few months but I suspect we will never find out.

I should have pointed out in my previous post that I do not believe 3 quarters of the stuff reported in the news media here in Miami, and I don't believe ANYTHING CNN reports. The news media relies on sensationalism (if it bleeds, it leads) so if they can 'improve' on the sensationalism without getting caught in a lie, they will. So who knows what the real truth is, only that there was no giant wave and that guy is damn lucky to be alive.

Watching all the news reports yesterday (started off they did not have his name -....well check cruise critic NBC.... (wonder why it took so long), they were reported that the Oasis was back in port, so must the young man. NOT....still in Coz and guess what he had no passport (travelling on BC) - so I heard from a reliable source.

Say he was fooling around on the lifeboats and did in fact "slip", he is at fault and its too bad Royal is getting bad press and I'm sure this is scaring some people away from cruising. Don't forget this happened in the wee hours, it was still dark and RCI wouldn't have know he fell/jumped/slipped and no one reported him missing.

I don't see how RCCL could possibly be held responsible for someone climbing onto one of the lifeboats and the falling off (if indeed he fell). I'm sure someone will say the cruise line needs to be more aware. I tend to lean towards to 'cheerleader' side when a passenger does something they are not supposed to be doing or going where they are not supposed to be (like the guy who climbed the mast on the Carnival ship and fell off). Stupidity is the fault of the person. Cruise lines are in the business of providing a cruise, not baby sitting passengers who don't have good sense. They can't put safety netting around every open deck (well they could but c'mon, totally senseless.)

Common sense is a thing of the past I'm afraid. It won't surprise me if alcohol played a role in this (I personally like several cocktails a day on a cruise).

I don't see how RCCL could possibly be held responsible for someone climbing onto one of the lifeboats and the falling off (if indeed he fell). I'm sure someone will say the cruise line needs to be more aware. I tend to lean towards to 'cheerleader' side when a passenger does something they are not supposed to be doing or going where they are not supposed to be (like the guy who climbed the mast on the Carnival ship and fell off). Stupidity is the fault of the person. Cruise lines are in the business of providing a cruise, not baby sitting passengers who don't have good sense. They can't put safety netting around every open deck (well they could but c'mon, totally senseless.)

Common sense is a thing of the past I'm afraid. It won't surprise me if alcohol played a role in this (I personally like several cocktails a day on a cruise).

Totally agree! I heard today that he said that a rogue wave washed him overboard. I don't know where this story came from but again another example of someone sensationalizing the story to get ratings.

Totally agree! I heard today that he said that a rogue wave washed him overboard. I don't know where this story came from but again another example of someone sensationalizing the story to get ratings.

"Frank Jade mencionó que muy temprano salió de su camarote para dirigirse a la cubierta de la embarcación y cuando estaba en la proa una gran ola ocasionó que cayera del crucero sin que nadie se diera cuenta, por lo que se dijo sorprendido se seguir con vida ya que hubo un momento en que sintió que no sobreviviría, hasta que llegó el Disney Magic que lo rescató en altamar."

You can make a rather serviceable floating device from a pair of long pants. Take them off, zip them up, tie a knot near the ankles, grasp near the waist, take a deep breath, stick your head inside the waist band and exhale. Repeat. After a few minutes, you will have inflated your floating device. Put a leg under each arm. You may need to add air.

My junior lifesaving class (back in the late 1960s) practiced doing this in the diving area of our municipal pool. We tied the pant legs together and whipped the open waist forward to inflate it.

Maybe this has been asked but... if Oasis has a video, why were they not doing a search? Doesn't someone monitor the cameras?

Also, was this guy travelling alone?

From what I understand Oasis has over 1200 security cameras. That would make monitoring them unrealistic.

Not been on the Oasis, but we were told that the Quantum "has well over 1100 active security cameras on board". One can see them in all the public spaces and corridors and spaced in intervals along the outside of the ship. No one can monitor that many cameras--and Oasis is bigger than Quantum.

Kay

So he was climbing on the life boats?

Well for arguments sake let me use a person I know well in my building: the main penthouse of my building is owned by a international attorney; whom got a VERY large settlement (for the airlines) out of Muammar Gaddafi/Libyan Government for Lockerby Scotland, Pan Am Bombing. Was it bad, that my friend brought the lawsuit in the first place? What about the victims and what about accountability?

 

Who's to say, that this local attorney (I live in Miami Beach) has had reasonable success, with cases that DESERVED litigation, much like the example I gave. Why do we (the public) assume that corporations are correct and individual claimants & their attorneys are wrong?

 

Why is their such a biases on Cruise Critic & the public-at-large, against the average person; toward the will of large corporations, etc.?

 

I saw a documentary "Going Bananas" which was about the attempted suppression of a documentary Swedish film, by Dole Fruit Company. In the film, Dole tried to smear both the Swedish filmmaker and the LA attorney who won, his class action suit (involving mistreatment of Honduran plantation workers) against the company.

 

The movie and what I read here (as a Libertarian Republican) is why the public believes that plaintive attorneys are crooks, while corporations are pure & good???

Well, personally I think very often corporation gets away with far too much and ARE in the wrong. I think there are many good attorneys out there who bring legitimate claims to court.

I ALSO think that there is a subset of people, encouraged by a subset of attorneys, who wish to not be held accountable for their own actions and decisions and sue corporations inappropriate and use lots of rhetoric to try to pain a company as the bad guy to gloss over the stupidity of the plaintiffs. Reading Walker'S own inflammatory words, and using just a bit of common sense, i think he belongs to that subset and i have absolutely no respect for him or his kind.

I can see it now, the new pre-boarding questionaire:

___ Have you been sick in the past 7 days?

___ Do you have a death wish?

___ Have you vomited in the past 7 days?

___ What is your IQ?

___ Have you had diarrhea in the past 7 days?

___ Do you have an attorney on retainer?

___ Have you been to Africa in the past year?

___ Are you considered stupid by your friends/relatives?

___ Can you swim?

___ Are the Jacka$$ movies among your favorites?

I can see it now, the new pre-boarding questionaire:

 

 

___ Have you been sick in the past 7 days?

___ Do you have a death wish?

___ Have you vomited in the past 7 days?

___ What is your IQ?

___ Have you had diarrhea in the past 7 days?

___ Do you have an attorney on retainer?

___ Have you been to Africa in the past year?

___ Are you considered stupid by your friends/relatives?

___ Can you swim?

___ Are the Jacka$$ movies among your favorites?

I can see it now, the new pre-boarding questionaire:

 

 

___ Have you been sick in the past 7 days?

___ Do you have a death wish?

___ Have you vomited in the past 7 days?

___ What is your IQ?

___ Have you had diarrhea in the past 7 days?

___ Do you have an attorney on retainer?

___ Have you been to Africa in the past year?

___ Are you considered stupid by your friends/relatives?

___ Can you swim?

___ Are the Jacka$$ movies among your favorites?

Well done. Semi absurd, but point taken and funny.

Just for kicks, tell us how he might be a hero?

I can't wait to read the answer to your question. I need some entertainment today. Science fiction could take care it my needs.

Edit: I see the entertainment has already been provided.