Why no deck 17?

I am new to MSC. We are booked in YC on Bellisima for Oct 2019 and noticed there is no deck 17. I perused the deck plans of the other larger MSC ships and have discovered no deck 17 on those either. Some sort of superstition? Just curious.

17 means bad luck, like number 13 in many countries.

Thanks. I did not know that.

17 is considered an unlucky number in Italy because - when written in Roman numerals - XVII is an anagram of VIXI which in Latin translates as 'I have lived' - implying death.

17 is considered an unlucky number in Italy because - when written in Roman numerals - XVII is an anagram of VIXI which in Latin translates as 'I have lived' - implying death.

Thanks for that information.

Do you also know why 13 means bad luck in many countries?

Thanks for that information.

 

Do you also know why 13 means bad luck in many countries?

There are so many stories around it, SC, that your best bet is to google it.

To the OP ............... there are no cabin numbers ending in 17, either!

17 means bad luck, like number 13 in many countries.

British definitely P & O and I think American cruise ships dont have a deck 13 because of superstition.

Thanks for that information.

 

Do you also know why 13 means bad luck in many countries?

Dont know what it means though.

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We sailed NCL on the epic last November and we were on deck 13. Every time I was on the elevator and asked to push the button for deck 13 it ended up in a conversation of how strange to have a deck 13. It also seemed like deck 13 was the only deck that swayed all the time back and forth! Strange but true!

We sailed NCL on the epic last November and we were on deck 13. Every time I was on the elevator and asked to push the button for deck 13 it ended up in a conversation of how strange to have a deck 13. It also seemed like deck 13 was the only deck that swayed all the time back and forth! Strange but true!

Did you notice if there were any cabin numbers ending in seven or a deck seven.

Some of the NCL ships that started in Asia do not have deck seven or cabin numbers ending in seven because seven is an unlucky number.

There are so many stories around it, SC, that your best bet is to google it.

 

To the OP ............... there are no cabin numbers ending in 17, either!

Actually there are cabin numbers ending 17 on Armonia and Sinfonia.

This is because the ships were bought from another cruise line (Festival Cruises) and the cabins were already numbered.

Opera and Lirica have neither 13 or 17 as the last two digits of their cabin numbers.

The rest of the fleet have cabin numbers ending 13.

All the fleet have a deck 13, non has a deck 17, bear in mind that the LIRICA and MUSICA class ships aren't big enough to have a deck 17.

Pete

Bad luck for Italians.

Did you notice if there were any cabin numbers ending in seven or a deck seven.

 

Some of the NCL ships that started in Asia do not have deck seven or cabin numbers ending in seven because seven is an unlucky number.

On NCL I think it was rooms ending in "4" for some of the older ships.

On NCL I think it was rooms ending in "4" for some of the older ships.

Could be. I thought it was seven, but it was a number that I was surprised to see missing.

I noticed it on one of the ships that originally sailed in Asia - Star? Pearl? I don't remember.

The Norwegian Star and the Spirit have no cabins ending in 4 but they do have a deck 4.

With regards to the subject matter, who on here would NOT book a cabin either on deck 13 or a cabin number ending in 13? Personally it wouldn't bother me. The drawback of deck 13 on Fantasia class ships is that it's beneath the buffet and Lido deck which would be the reason I wouldn't choose it.

I wonder if Italians won't book cabins on Armonia and Sinfonia ending in the number 17? Or would MSC just not release them to the Italian market?

Our last cabin was 16013 and it never even crossed my mind. We were deck 13 the previous year. Fairly certain we're booked on 13 on one for next year, specifically booked there as it's under the spa & quiet. Again, didn't even consider it. Nothing untoward occurred. ..touch wood...

17 is considered an unlucky number in Italy because - when written in Roman numerals - XVII is an anagram of VIXI which in Latin translates as 'I have lived' - implying death.

This is actually super interesting, I did not know this. Thank you for this! :D

There are so many stories around it, SC, that your best bet is to google it.

 

To the OP ............... there are no cabin numbers ending in 17, either!

Well that's interesting too. Funny what you can learn.

Thanks for that information.

 

Do you also know why 13 means bad luck in many countries?

Way late to the party - found the thread on a Google search on why no deck 17 and was happy to find the answer. But no one really addressed the 13 question. I always thought that it was because there were 13 at the Last Supper or, alternatively, that Judas was the 13th at the Last Supper.

I'm still looking to book cabin 666 or room 666 in a hotel.

I'm still looking to book cabin 666 or room 666 in a hotel.

The devil, you say.

I always thought that it was because there were 13 at the Last Supper or, alternatively, that Judas was the 13th at the Last Supper.

That is correct. Judas Iskariot was the 13th apostle and betrayed Jesus. The irrational fear or extreme superstition concerning the number 13 is Triskaidekaphobia.

That is correct. Judas Iskariot was the 13th apostle and betrayed Jesus. The irrational fear or extreme superstition concerning the number 13 is Triskaidekaphobia.

Thanks for the confirmation. I wasn't totally sure if it was correct or a myth I had heard.

Could be. I thought it was seven, but it was a number that I was surprised to see missing.

 

I noticed it on one of the ships that originally sailed in Asia - Star? Pearl? I don't remember.

No, 7 is a lucky number, but 4 is death. And Tetraphobia is much bigger than all the other number phobias :D