Use of legally prescribed Marijuana on board

[Cruise Junky]

Why not test this out? Try to carry a gun (with your concealed weapon permit) onto a celebrity ship when boarding in Florida....then enjoy discussing how local laws trump corporate policies while sitting on the dock watching your ship sail.

 

Did you realize you're quoting yourself?

[Kamloops50]

If you have marijuana with a legal prescription. The Canadian authorities will charge you with possession and trafficking. After a court date you'll be deported and banned from Canada for at least 10 years .

 

 

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[ghstudio]

Did you realize you're quoting yourself?

 

That's really funny.....and you're right. I guess my views have changed in 2 years since I wrote what I wrote....however it really isn't clear what will happen.

 

I guess it shows I qualify as a debater....I can take either side :)

Edited December 30, 2016 by ghstudio

[Cruise Junky]

That's really funny.....and you're right. I guess my views have changed in 2 years since I wrote what I wrote....however it really isn't clear what will happen.

 

I guess it shows I qualify as a debater....I can take either side :)

 

I definitely had to look twice. Too funny :)

[keithm]

Tell that to the two gay men arrested a few years ago for having sex on ther balcony in a very gay unfriendly port.

Happened in Dominica. One of the guys was a cop. It was done on purpose, too. we're a gay couple & would never do anything so stupid. Still, I have to wonder, if it was a straight couple, would the same penalty apply? That's when you can tell if the law is fair or not.

[Cruise Junky]

Happened in Dominica. One of the guys was a cop. It was done on purpose, too. we're a gay couple & would never do anything so stupid. Still, I have to wonder, if it was a straight couple, would the same penalty apply? That's when you can tell if the law is fair or not.

 

They were arrested for buggery, illegal in Dominica. Male/female sex is not illegal. They were idiots. The pictures were crazy, they didn't even try to be discreet.

[DirtyDawg]

That's really funny.....and you're right. I guess my views have changed in 2 years since I wrote what I wrote....however it really isn't clear what will happen.

 

I guess it shows I qualify as a debater....I can take either side :)

 

Just hold off debating yourself in a crowded public place.:)

[Tedferg]

Interesting to see how few commented on their reaction to someone smoking in a next door cabin. I for one would not be happy with a next door smoker. Though it was pointed out that you can 'use' MJ without smoking.

 

So, if it was deemed to be legal, should smoking be limited to smoking areas ?

[ChucktownSteve]

That's really funny.....and you're right. I guess my views have changed in 2 years since I wrote what I wrote....however it really isn't clear what will happen.

 

I guess it shows I qualify as a debater....I can take either side :)

 

Maybe even qualify as a Master? :p Now say that three times real fast. ;)

[Fish Lover]

I had no idea there were so many criminal attorneys on this board.

[ChucktownSteve]

I had no idea there were so many criminal attorneys on this board.

 

Guess you can learn something new every day.

[bigbenboys]

Because of my work. I'm in a random drug testing. I get checked for drugs and alcohol. I can not do any forms of drugs without a prescription. Marijuana medical prescription would not cut it with our government.

 

As I live in Washington state and and marijuana is legal here. But illegal to take cross state lines. Friends and I have talked about edibles. The edibles look just like candy. I did a google search. What I'm trying to get across here is that pot is talked about in the work place now that it is legal.

 

Do you really think that our US government or Celebrity is going to throw the book at someone with 7 pieces of pot edibles on a cruise ship or airport that look like candy. Are they going to test every piece of candy in a checked bag or carry on. I'm not sure if dogs are trained for small amounts of edibles. Am I going to test the system no.

[Fish Lover]

The Alaskan cruise route will become extremely popular once Alaska irons out all of the details of it's recent legalization of MJ.

 

On November 4, 2014, Alaskans voted 53-47% to end decades of harmful and ineffective marijuana prohibition, and replace it with a system in which marijuana is taxed and regulated like alcohol.

The initiative, which took effect on February 24, allows adults 21 years of age and older to possess up to one ounce of marijuana and grow up to six plants (three mature) in a private, secure location. Beginning in 2016, marijuana will be cultivated, tested, and sold by licensed, taxpaying businesses that require proof of age, instead of criminal enterprises in the underground market.

 

As though alcohol isn't a big enough problem....

[galensgrl]

Interesting to see how few commented on their reaction to someone smoking in a next door cabin. I for one would not be happy with a next door smoker. Though it was pointed out that you can 'use' MJ without smoking.

 

So, if it was deemed to be legal, should smoking be limited to smoking areas ?

 

I wouldn't be happy being subjected to second hand smoke, being forced to smell it and breathe it in, especially in our own cabin or on our balcony. We enjoy the balcony for fresh ocean air. DH grew up with cigarette chain smoking parents, he is sensitive to smoke of any kind. If deemed legal I would hope smoking would be limited to smoking areas that could be avoided by those of us who don't smoke and don't want to be subjected to secondhand smoke. If people want to smoke whatever, fine. But I shouldn't be forced to smoke with them.

Edited December 31, 2016 by galensgrl

[jlivings]

I smoke marijuana, have had the recommendation for over three years, before recreational marijuana became legal here in Washington State. I was told it was illegal to smoke marijuana in a public place, just as drinking alcohol in public is illegal. Where would it be smoked on a cruise ship? I use a pipe, not very discrete. I plan to bring oils and consume them in my cabin, if I can find a way for them to be discrete. I for one do not want to lose out on my vacation going to jail outside of the country.

[sanger727]

I smoke marijuana, have had the recommendation for over three years, before recreational marijuana became legal here in Washington State. I was told it was illegal to smoke marijuana in a public place, just as drinking alcohol in public is illegal. Where would it be smoked on a cruise ship? I use a pipe, not very discrete. I plan to bring oils and consume them in my cabin, if I can find a way for them to be discrete. I for one do not want to lose out on my vacation going to jail outside of the country.

 

Where is your cruise leaving from? You posted on another thread that you are traveling on a cruise in April out of San Juan. You aren't really suggesting that you are going to travel from Washington to San Juan via plane with drugs on you, are you? Umm, there are dogs on almost all flights I board anymore that can detect drugs. Not to mention now you are escalating to a federal crime by transporting drugs across state lines. Marijuana products are still illegal to possess once you leave the state of Washington. Either way, even if you are embarking and debarking in the state. I think that is a poor decision, it is clearly against Celebrity's rules

 

"Drugs or Other Illeg al Substances

No illegal drugs or other illegal substances are allowed onboard or may be utilized during a Celebrity Cruises® vacation, including during

transfers to and from ships, inside terminals, while on board, at our ports-of-call, during shore excursions or at our private destinations.

Illegal drugs or substances will be confiscated and appropriate action taken, which may include removal from the ship and involvement

of appropriate authorities. In addition, foreign governments at ports-of-call have strict laws that address drug possession. Guests found

in violation of such laws are subject to arrest and prosecution by the foreign jurisdiction (and perhaps United States or other authorities

as well) and may be prevented from re-boarding the ship."

 

Regardless of Washington state's new laws, marijuana is federally illegal and pretty well agreed upon as an illegal drug by a majority of the world.

Edited December 31, 2016 by sanger727

[GUT2407]

I had no idea there were so many criminal attorneys on this board.

 

Well, I'm an attorney (Barrister actually) but try not to do too much criminal.:p

[chengkp75]

Once again, when this discussion comes up, it is the flag state laws that trump even US federal, US state, or in some cases port state laws. When a ship is in a port of a nation, other than the flag state of the ship, there is a jurisdictional overlap between port state and flag state. International law generally recognizes that port state laws will only be enforced on the ship when the "safety or good order" of the port is involved. So, unless the local municipality or the port state have laws making it illegal specifically for foreign ships to do something, then the flag state laws prevail. So, in this case, while the local city may allow marijuana, if the port state (US) does not, or the flag state (where the ship is registered) does not, then it is illegal.

[Beanb41]

The problem as I understand medicinal marijuana is prescribed by the doctor for the state of residence. Ships are mainly governed by the country of registration and international law . I don't think that you should even try to use it on board . Many companies now only allow smoking in designated areas. You still have go thru customs and immigration , which could or probably will consider your trying to import the drug illegally.

If you try and cross the Canadian Border you'll be arrested for possession and importation of a illegal substance.

 

Similarly in New Zealand and Australia and I wouldn't dream of trying it in Indonesia and Singapore where the death penalty is in vogue for drug smugglers

[Rob the Cruiser]

I wouldn't be happy being subjected to second hand smoke, being forced to smell it and breathe it in, especially in our own cabin or on our balcony. We enjoy the balcony for fresh ocean air. DH grew up with cigarette chain smoking parents, he is sensitive to smoke of any kind. If deemed legal I would hope smoking would be limited to smoking areas that could be avoided by those of us who don't smoke and don't want to be subjected to secondhand smoke. If people want to smoke whatever, fine. But I shouldn't be forced to smoke with them.

 

While on our Panama Canal/South America cruise several of us at Oceanview Bar smelled marijuana smoke. (Not that I would know what it smells like. :) )

 

We told one of the bartenders. He smelled pot smoke as well and notified security. The passengers were caught, confined to their cabin and kicked off Infinity at the next port. This is not a rumor. We saw them escorted off the ship, handcuffed by local police and taken away. I don't know what happened after that.

[keithm]

They were arrested for buggery, illegal in Dominica. Male/female sex is not illegal. They were idiots. The pictures were crazy, they didn't even try to be discreet.

Still a totally biased law! Like I said..What would happen if it was a straight couple doing the exact same thing on their balcony. Is that fair?

[Ex-Airbalancer]

Going on a ship and you need cannabis , just use oil

I been using oil for 2 months now , and never had a buzz

It all depends on the amount of THC you take , my precipitation is limited to less than 12% of THC

My doctor believes it better than taking opioids

https://www.tweed.com/pages/extracts

 

Never heard of anyone ODing on cannabis , but opioids :eek:

Here is a by-the-numbers look:

 

Six or seven — Number of Canadians who die daily from opioid overdose, according to Ontario Health Minister Eric Hoskins

 

One in eight — Deaths of Ontarians 25 to 34 years in 2010 related to opioids.

 

100 — Number of times fentanyl is more powerful than morphine.

 

488 — Number of illicit drug deaths in British Columbia as of the end of August 2016, according to the coroner, roughly 61 deaths a month.

 

655 — Number of fentanyl-related deaths in Canada between 2009 and 2014, according to the Canadian Centre on Substance Abuse.

 

800 — Number of illicit drug overdose deaths expected in British Columbia in 2016, half of which are expected to involve fentanyl.

[keithm]

Right down there with "If I ask if you're a cop you have to tell me... "

 

:cool:

actually in NH that IS true. There's been many cases thrown out by judges for cops lying about this. Entrapment IS illegal in NH. If you ask: "Are you a law enforcement officer?", by state law they have to say yes. Of course it ALWAYS helps to have a witness who heard the discussion.

[Charles4515]

Still a totally biased law! Like I said..What would happen if it was a straight couple doing the exact same thing on their balcony. Is that fair?

 

 

 

It is a biased law. I agree it is not fair. That is not the point. Other countries have different laws than our own country or state. We don't have the same rights in other countries as we may have at home. The point is that when we are in those countries if we don't abide by their laws we could suffer consequences.

 

 

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Edited December 31, 2016 by Charles4515

[springfire]

I wouldn't be happy being subjected to second hand smoke, being forced to smell it and breathe it in, especially in our own cabin or on our balcony. We enjoy the balcony for fresh ocean air. DH grew up with cigarette chain smoking parents, he is sensitive to smoke of any kind. If deemed legal I would hope smoking would be limited to smoking areas that could be avoided by those of us who don't smoke and don't want to be subjected to secondhand smoke. If people want to smoke whatever, fine. But I shouldn't be forced to smoke with them.

 

Agreed!