New loyalty level. Diamond++.

[serialcruiser48]

I would like to see a new loyalty level between Diamond Plus and Pinnacle. Even if there are no additional benefits. It's just a very long stretch from Diamond Plus to Pinnacle, 525 cruise nights to be exact. A really great looking loyalty pin would be perfect. I suggest the current Diamond Plus pin with two plus signs (++) on the right side.

If you are currently Diamond Plus. What would you like to see?

[OfTheSeasCruiser]

What would be the point of an additional level, if no additional benefits would be involved?

[wolfcathorse]

you can bet that if they add another level between D+ and P, that D's and D+'s will be kicked out of the Concierge Lounge and Diamond Lounge. And probably lose their nightly drink vouchers as well. Oops my mistake...since RCI is going to Suite Lounges and Diamond Lounges on their ships, once all ships have those, D's and D+'s will be kicked out, if they add another level.

[yogimax]

you can bet that if they add another level between D+ and P, that D's and D+'s will be kicked out of the Concierge Lounge and Diamond Lounge. And probably lose their nightly drink vouchers as well. Oops my mistake...since RCI is going to Suite Lounges and Diamond Lounges on their ships, once all ships have those, D's and D+'s will be kicked out, if they add another level.

 

Nonsense! There is no way that D+ will lose the nightly event. In theory, Diamonds may be relegated to drink coupons, but even that is pure speculation. In all honesty, I hate these threads and comments that imply that benefits will be taken away! We have been reading this stuff for years. Time to move on.

[looking4info]

If you are currently Diamond Plus. What would you like to see?

 

Would serve no purpose other than another tier to brag about.

 

All of the Pinnacle tier folks I've met appear to have gotten there in far far far less than 700 nights -- suites and single occupancy bonuses helps a lot. 233 nights for a single occupancy cruiser in a suite from G to P. 8 years of 4x week long cruisers.

 

I'll go from gold to diamond in just under 2 years (single occupancy, frequent cruiser), and I don't see much of a point in me having earned diamond privileges. I like the fact that D+ and P are so far away -- it SHOULD be tiers that are earned with time (and spending).

 

We will hit Pinnacle next spring with far less than 700 actual nights sailed. With suites, solo and the Diamonds in December promo the points added up rather quickly

 

The tiers are very reachable very quickly for some. Four 7 day cruises solo in JS gets you to Diamond. Nine 7 day cruises solo in JS gets you to D+. Have a coworker heading out on a cruise in February will be number 8 x 21=168.

[serialcruiser48]

I think my thread is being hijacked! its not about changes that may be made to current levels or loss of benefits. It's only about a new level between DP and P.

[Clarea]

I know RCCL stopped the Diamonds in December promo a few years ago (before my RCCL time) -- what did they offer in terms of tier points?

They gave Diamonds (and better) an extra point per night for cruises in December.

[serialcruiser48]

No one is hijacking the thread -- we're all just bored with the topic that gets brought up consistently.

 

Search CC for "black diamond" for a hefty thread last year about this very topic -- and just like every other thread since then, nothing has changed, and nothing looks like it will change.

 

RCCL's loyalty program is obviously working, and it's working just fine (for them, and that's the only entity that matters). For them to add yet another tier doesn't appear to make any sense for either the shareholders or the loyal customers. D+ offers quite a bit, and P really should be a top tier that means something. D++ or Black Diamond or Pinnacle Minus or whatever you want to call it doesn't really have a reason to exist.

 

I agree. Nothing will change. If all the responses would have been positive with a few hundred agree'rs. Considering this current trend, nothing will change.

[SamFritz]

I will start trying other lines after I reach D+. That huge gap does give me s reason to see what else is out there. I could be incentivized to keep coming back if they could toss me a free specialty restaurant, free internet, or maybe a free shore excursion from a reasonable selection.

 

 

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[Pumbaamd]

These D+ benefits are already in place:

 

Meal with an Officer for members with 340 or more cruise points.

Upgraded bathroom amenities for members with 340 or more cruise points.

Bonus Gift for members with 350 or more cruise points.

 

Throw in another minor goodie or two. Maybe D++ (or whatever) could start here.

 

R&D

[Starry Eyes]

As noted above, they add a few benefits at 340 to 350 points. I look forward to those little extras soon. Should they chose to name that level...great. But to add a pin?...no thanks, we do not ware the pins...shudder.

[Retired LEO]

The point system and tiers are fine just the way they are.

[rubrrick]

The point system and tiers are fine just the way they are.

 

Ray, I could not agree with you more!! The system that Royal Caribbean has put in place for returning guests, IMHO is the best perks program in the industry.

 

The difference between D+ and Pinnacle equals a different pin, a partially free cruise (it used to be free) when one reaches 700 points (again, in the past it was 100 cruises.......but that was before they created a Pinnacle level.) A recent new perk is free internet for PC's, which is very nice.

 

Reaching D+ gives so many perks, I'm amazed that some want so much more, or more recognition.

 

As a Pinnacle Club member, just now ready to achieve Pinnacle Club 2.0, which we jokingly refer to as someone is reaching 1400 points, does give us an advantage, that being that we will be given a dollar amount equivalent to a 7 day Caribbean cruise in a JS. We have friends that are 2.5 members, 3.0 members...that would equal 2100 points, and Super Mario, with well over 5,000 total points.

 

Other than that, Pinnacle Club members do not receive anything more than D+, for the most part.

 

FWIW!:D

 

Rick

Edited November 20, 2015 by rubrrick
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[minn0315]

Considering how easy it is to get to D, and how many people are already there, they're going to need to do something to manage crowd control. I remember Harrah's old "diamond lounge" in the casinos was pretty empty for years and then Vegas got popular and they slaughtered the lounges to being pretty worthless. Same will be true in any loyalty club that makes it too easy.

 

Look at UA and AA switching their loyalty programs to revenue -- I think it makes sense, you want the loyalty of people who spend money, not the loyalty of the Groupon Generation.

 

I agree that those of us that pay premium prices to stay in suites should be rewarded more than those than rack up nights on interior cabins. I am tired of seeing diamond and pinnacles that have never spent a dime on premium cabins!

[Clarea]

I agree that those of us that pay premium prices to stay in suites should be rewarded more than those than rack up nights on interior cabins. I am tired of seeing diamond and pinnacles that have never spent a dime on premium cabins!

Suites get an extra point per night.

[OfTheSeasCruiser]

I agree that those of us that pay premium prices to stay in suites should be rewarded more than those than rack up nights on interior cabins. I am tired of seeing diamond and pinnacles that have never spent a dime on premium cabins!

 

Seriously?

 

700 nights in inside/balcony cabins or 350 nights in suites sounds pretty comparable to me, if not favoring the suite guest a little more.

Edited November 20, 2015 by OfTheSeasCruiser

[WeatherFx]

I agree that those of us that pay premium prices to stay in suites should be rewarded more than those than rack up nights on interior cabins. I am tired of seeing diamond and pinnacles that have never spent a dime on premium cabins!

 

And I'm tired of the "Suite Elitist" who think they are so much better. You get your additional point per night and also the CL for your $$$. I spent all my dimes on an inside and made diamond the hard way - "racking" up one night at a time. Doesn't make me any better, but doesn't make me less either. A dime is a dime.

 

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[DarthGrady]

I agree that those of us that pay premium prices to stay in suites should be rewarded more than those than rack up nights on interior cabins. I am tired of seeing diamond and pinnacles that have never spent a dime on premium cabins!

Most of the ships in the fleet have special areas and perks just for suite guests, as do the private islands. Not to mention the double points. The Oasis Class ships even have a suite lounge in the old VCL. It's called "The Ivory Tower". The elites can sit up there and glare down with disdain at the plebeians below.

[gkbiiii]

These D+ benefits are already in place:

 

Meal with an Officer for members with 340 or more cruise points.

Upgraded bathroom amenities for members with 340 or more cruise points.

Bonus Gift for members with 350 or more cruise points.

 

Throw in another minor goodie or two. Maybe D++ (or whatever) could start here.

 

R&D

 

I always thought that these could be the new level, lets say Royal Diamond.

[TM38Rob]

Pretty sad when someone needs a new title to feel special.

 

Before 2011, Diamond Plus was the highest Crown & Anchor "achievement" one could earn with 24 Cruise Credits (24 cruises, or 12 suite cruises). Diamond only needed 10 Cruise Credits (10 cruises, or 5 suite cruises).

 

With the 2011 change from Cruise Credits to Cruise Points, the non-suite cruiser would now need 12 cruises to get to Diamond and 25 cruises for Diamond Plus (based on 7-Night sailings). Emerald was added to help take the sting off by increasing the gap between Platinum and Diamond, although you might as well call it Platinum Plus (a welcome basket).

 

Pinnacle was added to honor and recognize those who had sailed 100 cruises or more, and was never meant to be anything more than that.

 

The only time I identify myself as a Diamond member is to a staff or crew member when I want to use the benefits that come with that level. Beyond that I'm no more special than any one else sailing on the same ship.

 

As others have posted about getting additional benefits at 340 to 350 Cruise Points, why not just refer to it as "Diamond Plus 340 or Diamond Plus 350" and be done with it. To the OP: That's your Diamond Plus Plus. No need for Royal to make any changes to the C&A Tiers. Happy sailing on your journey to Pinnacle.

;)

Edited November 20, 2015 by TM38Rob

[roquejo]

Some points:

 

- We already had an official announcement from C&A that they are not changing the structure of C&A as of the moment.

 

- D+ although will take long to reach pinnacle, has escalating benefits to keep D+'s interested. For solo cruisers, only 150% single supplement once you reach 340 points is huge savings. Upgraded amenities and meal with an officer at 340 points, bonus gifts at 350 and 525 points etc..

 

- The distribution of D's worldwide is uneven.. for US and Europe, it is already too much that the lounge is crowded. But if you sail Asia where RCCL is targeting right now, the D lounge is usually empty even for a Voyager class. The last time I sailed with an Asian crowed, we have only 12 D's out for 3,000 passengers. And we don't have a top tier party as there are so few Platinums and up in Asia!!

 

Something to think about....

Edited November 20, 2015 by roquejo

[Dizziedi]

I agree that those of us that pay premium prices to stay in suites should be rewarded more than those than rack up nights on interior cabins. I am tired of seeing Diamond and Pinnacles that have never spent a dime on premium cabins!

 

Where's the "like" button? As a Suite "payer" and Diamond Plus member, there is a difference in "attitude". Sick of doing Trans Pacific cruises (and others of the like) and listening to Loud Mouths of how many cruises they have done - they talk at each other as opposed to talking to each other. In Australia, I hate listening to Inside Cabin dwellers who have achieved Diamond Plus cruisers raving on about how special they are but who don't show up on the last night so they can avoid paying tips:mad:

 

Whilst I do believe in a Loyalty Program, regardless of cabins chosen, I think they will move the Pinnacle and Diamond Plus members into the DL and the Diamond members into the bar(s) with complimentary drinks for the simple reason, the current Lounges just can't cope with the influx of new Diamond/Diamond Plus members, not to mention the amount of Pinnacles coming through.

 

If the current "Diamond Lounge" was made a Pinnacle and Diamond Plus Lounge it would have more credibility and due to increasing numbers, perhaps it will eventually become a Concierge Lounge and a Pinnacle Lounge with Diamond Plus members having complimentary drinks in the bar(s) and the Diamond members losing that perk altogether.

 

Cheers

Di

[travelgoddess1]

I agree that those of us that pay premium prices to stay in suites should be rewarded more than those than rack up nights on interior cabins. I am tired of seeing diamond and pinnacles that have never spent a dime on premium cabins!

 

So you think there's no overlap between Suites and top tier C&A members?

[FLACRUISER99]

Some points:

 

- We already had an official announcement from C&A that they are not changing the structure of C&A as of the moment.

 

And I remember when Adam M. Goldstein stated that D+ would always have access to the CL. However RCI in their infinite wisdom decided to rename them Suite Lounges.:rolleyes: So he didn't lie.:rolleyes:

[travelgoddess1]

And I remember when Adam M. Goldstein stated that D+ would always have access to the CL. However RCI in their infinite wisdom decided to rename them Suite Lounges.:rolleyes: So he didn't lie.:rolleyes:

 

The C&A announcement was made two days ago on another social media websiste. I imagine it was done because of all the phone calls regarding rumors about loyalty program changes. I realize there is a lot of erroneous information floating around, but I sincerely hope this was legitimate. :)