ONECRUISER Posted March 12, 2019 #76 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, John&LaLa said: Kind of like Wonderland 😉 Daughter on 9nite Cruise in June Celebrating her 10th Anniversary, she's considering going Wonderland. Haven't myself, what's your opinion? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMESCC Posted March 12, 2019 #77 Share Posted March 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, ONECRUISER said: Daughter on 9nite Cruise in June Celebrating her 10th Anniversary, she's considering going Wonderland. Haven't myself, what's your opinion? We absolutely LOVED Wonderland. I actually didn't want to do it, I thought it was gimmicky and weird but I think they ran a special on the first night on our Anthem cruise so we decided to try it. We have a 5 year old son too. It turned out to be SO much fun. It was just a fun and interesting experience. We loved the food as well as it being fun. It was a really nice way to start our cruise, so much so that on our next Anthem cruise in Sept. I want to start the cruise the same way, in Wonderland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 13, 2019 #78 Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 hours ago, ONECRUISER said: Daughter on 9nite Cruise in June Celebrating her 10th Anniversary, she's considering going Wonderland. Haven't myself, what's your opinion? Dissapointed on Harmony. We had a bad waiter. The fish is decent. Chocolate ball is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikew0805 Posted March 13, 2019 #79 Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 hours ago, MacMarauder said: Unfortunately I think/fear that RCI will put the "infinity verandas" from Celebrity Edge on Icon class. What about them is bad? I have only seen pictures and thought they looked nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakeDad Posted March 13, 2019 #80 Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 2/14/2018 at 2:58 PM, soremekun said: Everything the Quantum class has plus water slides. Promenade instead of Esplanade. All I can say about this is the Navigator was such a pain in the ass in dry dock it was stated more than once she will be the ONLY ship to have that slide in the fleet. We'll see if they stick with that or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Researcher Posted March 13, 2019 #81 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, SakeDad said: All I can say about this is the Navigator was such a pain in the ass in dry dock it was stated more than once she will be the ONLY ship to have that slide in the fleet. We'll see if they stick with that or not. Interesting. What source did these comments come from? That's the first I've heard that. The slide still isn't operating (as far as we know as of today, 3-13-19), but that isn't the first time on a RCCL ship (Tidal Wave on the LOS). Dan Edited March 13, 2019 by The Fun Researcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeRick Posted March 13, 2019 #82 Share Posted March 13, 2019 20 hours ago, MacMarauder said: Unfortunately I think/fear that RCI will put the "infinity verandas" from Celebrity Edge on Icon class. Actually after sailing Edge recently and previously Anthem, Edge shares a lot of features with Quantum Class. I doubt RCCL will go to Infinite Verandas on one of their new ship classes after the mixed-to-negative overall feedback about the IV's on Edge. The IV's will also be on Apex. I guess time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacMarauder Posted March 13, 2019 #83 Share Posted March 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Mikew0805 said: What about them is bad? I have only seen pictures and thought they looked nice. My problem is that the infinite veranda is just a big window that opens, not a real balcony. Yes it looks cool and gives you more room in the cabin but you no longer have your own outdoor space. That's a deal-breaker for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Researcher Posted March 13, 2019 #84 Share Posted March 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, MacMarauder said: My problem is that the infinite veranda is just a big window that opens, not a real balcony. Yes it looks cool and gives you more room in the cabin but you no longer have your own outdoor space. That's a deal-breaker for me. It's more boxed in looking for sure, even with the window open, but there are some major benefits (for me) as well. I would prefer it to a typical balcony. I haven't been on the X discussion board in a while and I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death by now, with both sides loudly making their case. :) Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikew0805 Posted March 14, 2019 #85 Share Posted March 14, 2019 8 hours ago, MacMarauder said: My problem is that the infinite veranda is just a big window that opens, not a real balcony. Yes it looks cool and gives you more room in the cabin but you no longer have your own outdoor space. That's a deal-breaker for me. Ok I understand. I think I would like it better, but I guess I can not be sure until I try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 14, 2019 #86 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Mikew0805 said: Ok I understand. I think I would like it better, but I guess I can not be sure until I try it. Pretty sure I'd prefer it. I mean it can't be worse than a cove balcony like Adventure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saab4444 Posted March 14, 2019 #87 Share Posted March 14, 2019 9 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Pretty sure I'd prefer it. I mean it can't be worse than a cove balcony like Adventure I prefer the cove balconies as they provide much more privacy and protection regarding smoke, noise and views from left and right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasukkie Posted March 14, 2019 #88 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I really like the look of the infinite veranda and the built-in flexibility. I would welcome that on new RC ships. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted March 14, 2019 #89 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Saab4444 said: I prefer the cove balconies as they provide much more privacy and protection regarding smoke, noise and views from left and right. Feels like a tin can to me. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted March 14, 2019 #90 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I just got off the Symphony. I realize this is not a new design as ships go, but what a pleasure to have a full balcony with recliners, foot stools, and enough room to stretch out on our standard balcony. I haven't been on a Quantum clas ship, so I don't know about the balconies, but I would hope the Icon Class would be like the Symphony. A big difference from the newer ships of Princess, NCL, and MSC, where the balcony depth is about half of what we had on the Symphony. We were on all those lines so I can compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShillyShally Posted March 14, 2019 #91 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 hours ago, John&LaLa said: Pretty sure I'd prefer it. I mean it can't be worse than a cove balcony like Adventure I feel like we'd like it too, but not sure when I'll be trying it. I will say our balcony on Indy felt much more spacious than our balcony on our last cruise on Carnival - I forget how much I enjoy feeling like I can move around on the balcony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted March 14, 2019 #92 Share Posted March 14, 2019 11 hours ago, John&LaLa said: ... I mean it can't be worse than a cove balcony like Adventure Those first gen Voyager balconies are the ones we prefer.🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cws Posted April 1, 2019 #93 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) Richard Fain says in this 2-month-old L.A. Times article that there will be Infinite Veranda staterooms on a new Royal Caribbean ship: https://www.latimes.com/travel/la-tr-cruise-edge-20190127-story.html Edited April 1, 2019 by cws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairsky84 Posted April 2, 2019 #94 Share Posted April 2, 2019 3 hours ago, cws said: Richard Fain says in this 2-month-old L.A. Times article that there will be Infinite Veranda staterooms on a new Royal Caribbean ship: https://www.latimes.com/travel/la-tr-cruise-edge-20190127-story.html Given the negative feedback from Edge-cruisers, how much you wanna bet Royal Caribbean is busy redesigning the Icon-class to remove the Infinite Verandas? Honestly, the IV’s feel like the worst cabin design blunder since the Nor. Epic’s split bathroom design. When you get past the hype, Infinite Verandas (Like Epic’s odd bathrooms) were an attempt to reduce overall cabin size in order to fit more cabins. It was a cost saving decision, not a brilliant design innovation passengers would love and pay a premium for. I’m just surprised the IV design was first attempted by a premium like like Celebrity. I would have expected it first from NCL or Carnival or some Asian start-up. I suspect RCI/Celebrity is working overtime to determine how to reduce the number of IVs on Epic III and IV (Opus and Luxe), as well as the Icon-class. It was a rare misstep after decades of design innovation wins for the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairsky84 Posted April 2, 2019 #95 Share Posted April 2, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 2:04 PM, Captain Billy Bob said: I've never seen more than a few people there and there is usually a bartender standing there to assist the robot in making the drinks.🙄 I think some groups also use it s a meeting place. A hugh waste of space. Totally agree. Just returned from Anthem. The Bionic Bar was usually empty. The two times I tried to order a drink there the system didn’t work. And watching the human attendant use a mop to clean up the liquid on the “bar” spilled by the robots wasn’t very appetizing. Dumb gimmick and waste of prime space onboard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fairsky84 Posted April 2, 2019 #96 Share Posted April 2, 2019 On 3/8/2019 at 1:13 AM, Chiliburn said: Bring back the Viking crown lounge I read somewhere that RCI had the original VCL removed from the funnel of Song of Norway before the ship was sold and stored. If that’s true, I’d LOVE to see them incorporate that original lounge into the design of the first Icon-class ship as a tribute to the line’s first ship. Maybe make it into a small museum with RCI memorabilia. Carnival is honoring their original ship by naming their first LNG newbuild “Mardi Gras.” Maybe Royal Caribbean should go nostalgic and name their first Icon-class ship “Song of the Seas” to honor Song of Norway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikew0805 Posted April 2, 2019 #97 Share Posted April 2, 2019 28 minutes ago, Fairsky84 said: Given the negative feedback from Edge-cruisers, how much you wanna bet Royal Caribbean is busy redesigning the Icon-class to remove the Infinite Verandas? Honestly, the IV’s feel like the worst cabin design blunder since the Nor. Epic’s split bathroom design. When you get past the hype, Infinite Verandas (Like Epic’s odd bathrooms) were an attempt to reduce overall cabin size in order to fit more cabins. It was a cost saving decision, not a brilliant design innovation passengers would love and pay a premium for. I’m just surprised the IV design was first attempted by a premium like like Celebrity. I would have expected it first from NCL or Carnival or some Asian start-up. I suspect RCI/Celebrity is working overtime to determine how to reduce the number of IVs on Epic III and IV (Opus and Luxe), as well as the Icon-class. It was a rare misstep after decades of design innovation wins for the company. I still cannot grasp this. It is more private, more interior cabin space to use as you wish. I have not experienced these, but I just cannot grasp that they are a blunder of any kind. Every since I saw them announced, I have thought they were great. I would actually pay for a balcony if RCI had these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Bridget Posted April 2, 2019 #98 Share Posted April 2, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 10:45 AM, Host Clarea said: Those first gen Voyager balconies are the ones we prefer.🙂 Thought I was the only one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Bridget Posted April 2, 2019 #99 Share Posted April 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mikew0805 said: I still cannot grasp this. It is more private, more interior cabin space to use as you wish. I have not experienced these, but I just cannot grasp that they are a blunder of any kind. Every since I saw them announced, I have thought they were great. I would actually pay for a balcony if RCI had these. I too really like the looks of IVs but what concerns me is seems like they are frequently locked by the captain, during sail aways, under slightly bad weather, etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikew0805 Posted April 2, 2019 #100 Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Brooklyn Bridget said: I too really like the looks of IVs but what concerns me is seems like they are frequently locked by the captain, during sail aways, under slightly bad weather, etc etc. I didn't even know that was an option. I would not like it lock during sail away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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