grapau27 Posted July 30, 2018 #151 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Pretty much:halo:TBH most holidays revolve around alcohol and nothing wrong with letting your hair down on holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 30, 2018 #152 Share Posted July 30, 2018 You may be right but a Radiance concierge, very recently, told us that it would be going to the suite lounge concept. That said, we've received several tidbits of information from various concierges that never happened. Nonetheless, the Radiance class would be a relatively easy change.It was or he was hoping it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 30, 2018 #153 Share Posted July 30, 2018 TBH most holidays revolve around alcohol and nothing wrong with letting your hair down on holiday.For many it's more of a lifestyle than a holiday. [emoji6] Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocean Boy Posted July 30, 2018 #154 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Interesting thread, OP!! (And even more interesting to see how personally folks take your brainstorm question. ;)) Someone said "They are giving stuff that they think is valuable to their long term customers- and most appreciate it." That's correct. It's just that right now, their long-term customers are the older generation who have different appreciation standards/values than those 20- and 30- somethings who have been sailing with their parents all their life and are D already, or will be soon. When the lounge predominately empties of that older generation and they're on that cruise ship in the sky, RCI will either 1) realize the current D/D+ population doesn't want the current "stuff" and change to new "stuff" they value more, which I agree will include some things on your list....or, 2) as some folks have already mentioned, RCI will determine the ships fill up anyway, and do away with the valuable "stuff" altogether. Oh, they'll still CALL it a VIP program :rolleyes:, but it'll be a substantial decrease in quality and quantity of offers. Just like with any other business, they'll have to evaluate if it's beneficial for them to change the offers to suit the values of the current D/D+ cruisers. With the trend we've seen in changes on board, I'm also voting the majority of those effected won't be too happy with the changes! And maybe that will be the perfect way for RCI to unofficially end the program. Just keep it as it is and as the older people drop out, and the younger people have no interest in the present benefits, RCI gets to stop handing out the benefits and no one complains. The older folks get them for as long as they are around and the younger people don't want them. Seems like a win for everyone.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 30, 2018 #155 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I assume "TS" is thread starter (me). I don't necessarily think my view is the majority view. I was honestly kind of thinking out loud when I started this thread. I think the majority of high status members (D+ and Pinnacle) are probably actually very happy with the program. I was just wondering if there might be a way to modernize it a bit. I think, and it’s only my opinion, that many D+ are upset with current direction they see Royal headed. The number of D+ are increasing. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 30, 2018 #156 Share Posted July 30, 2018 And maybe that will be the perfect way for RCI to unofficially end the program. Just keep it as it is and as the older people drop out, and the younger people have no interest in the present benefits, RCI gets to stop handing out the benefits and no one complains. The older folks get them for as long as they are around and the younger people don't want them. Seems like a win for everyone.;)I should have 25 - 30 years still. [emoji16] Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted July 30, 2018 #157 Share Posted July 30, 2018 TBH most holidays revolve around alcohol and nothing wrong with letting your hair down on holiday. Your holiday might revolve around alcohol, you can not speak for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobal Posted July 30, 2018 #158 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Depends on the ship and how well the specialty restaurants are booking. We've had some luck on several cruises in using the D+ bogo on other nights during the week as long as we do the booking on the first day as soon as we board. Us too, particularly on longer cruises. We always ask if it's possible. On the Explorer TP in April we were able to use them any night during the first week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 30, 2018 #159 Share Posted July 30, 2018 True. We have 10 cruises booked between now and February 2020, and at ~$400 not spent on alcohol for each of those cruises, we save ~$4,000 (~two more cruises worth) over the next 18 months. When we get on Oasis in September, we will probably book those two additional cruises on the savings from RCL's loyalty program - nothing better than cruising on house money:) I just don’t get how some can drink those Diamond Liquors, especially if your a Vodka drinker. Do you drink the same brands at home? The Wine as well. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 30, 2018 #160 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I just don’t get how some can drink those Diamond Liquors, especially if your a Vodka drinker. Do you drink the same brands at home? The Wine as well. Sent from my iPhone using Forums We drink the exact same wine. [emoji16]No problem with vodka when mixed with something. The beer could be better. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixCruiser Posted July 30, 2018 #161 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I know of a person that I have seen on a number of cruises that brings a very nicely printed "reserved" sign that he places on a table in the CL. The Concierge actually allows this BS? That wouldn't stop me from sitting there. In fact, I think it would motivate me to do exactly that... Same here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 30, 2018 #162 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I think, and it’s only my opinion, that many D+ are upset with current direction they see Royal headed. The number of D+ are increasing. Sent from my iPhone using Forums D+ are with the introduction of more SL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 30, 2018 #163 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I should have 25 - 30 years still. [emoji16] Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Paulines mam came on a cruise with us on her 90th birthday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 30, 2018 #164 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Your holiday might revolve around alcohol, you can not speak for everyone.So all the full bars on the ships and in the land based tourist areas and all the restaurants where people have wine on their table is a Figment of my Imagination!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapau27 Posted July 30, 2018 #165 Share Posted July 30, 2018 We drink the exact same wine. [emoji16]No problem with vodka when mixed with something. The beer could be better. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk If I have a beer in the DL it is a can of Heineken which I could buy in any bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reallyitsmema Posted July 30, 2018 #166 Share Posted July 30, 2018 So all the full bars on the ships and in the land based tourist areas and all the restaurants where people have wine on their table is a Figment of my Imagination!!!! You hang out in bars, you are going to see people drinking. There are actually other people who aren't hanging out in the bars and are doing other activities that do not involve drinking. Try it sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 30, 2018 #167 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Paulines mam came on a cruise with us on her 90th birthday.Then make it 35. [emoji16] Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 30, 2018 #168 Share Posted July 30, 2018 So all the full bars on the ships and in the land based tourist areas and all the restaurants where people have wine on their table is a Figment of my Imagination!!!! Don't you know, the folks in the DL are there for the camaraderie, not the booze. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellsop Posted July 30, 2018 #169 Share Posted July 30, 2018 True, but I think the demographic is changing. Younger top tier travelers are not going to find a crowded lounge and well drinks to be a reason to maintain any sort of brand loyalty. I certainly don't feel any brand loyalty for that. I just wonder if it's a missed opportunity. If that's true, then your problem with the lounges will be self-solving. The people that don't care for crowded lounges will simply go elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatka Posted July 30, 2018 #170 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Wait, you're actually admitting your vacation plans are solely and entirely predicated on a couple free drinks.... Wow. Mine don’t, but we sail with 8 lines (well minus Carnival now) and more or less like all. Approaching D status made us choose RCCL last 4 times since Thanksgiving, we also have 2 more this year with RCCL. It’s a loyalty program, in some ways it supposed to make us cruisers more loyal to this cruiseline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 31, 2018 #171 Share Posted July 31, 2018 We drink the exact same wine. [emoji16]No problem with vodka when mixed with something. The beer could be better. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk And I thought you were a Caymus person. The vodka could be used in place of acetone. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 31, 2018 #172 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Paulines mam came on a cruise with us on her 90th birthday. That’s great, 90 years. My Mom is going to be 85 next month and is going strong. She still drives and takes care of herself. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard54 Posted July 31, 2018 #173 Share Posted July 31, 2018 For many it's more of a lifestyle than a holiday. [emoji6] Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk It is not so much a holiday after you retire, it is a lifestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milwaukee Eight Posted July 31, 2018 #174 Share Posted July 31, 2018 If I have a beer in the DL it is a can of Heineken which I could buy in any bar. Not a Heineken person. I’m with John, they could improve the beers. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare John&LaLa Posted July 31, 2018 #175 Share Posted July 31, 2018 And I thought you were a Caymus person. The vodka could be used in place of acetone. Sent from my iPhone using Forums You can get better vodka in several of the bars is my experience. Caymus is a rarity for us. Beringer is the table wine Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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