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10 minutes ago, Biker19 said:

I should have said long term issues which affect their bottom line. Cuba has been a long term issue for 60+ years, yet until recently the cruise lines made it work somehow. The cruise lines are going back to Turkey as well after a few year hiatus. The Spectrum and Quantum itineraries 1+ year out will not be affected by Hong Kong protests - they will be affected if bookings/yields drop off over a long period.

What if bookings drop off now, clients cancel and there is no evident short term solution to the unrest?  Or if trade tensions escalate further and China's economy deteriorates further?  Royal has repeatedly shown they are prepared to cancel or curtail a ship's season if things don't work out.  I'm not saying this will happen or is likely, just that it is quite possible.  

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8 minutes ago, geoff2802 said:

 Royal has repeatedly shown they are prepared to cancel or curtail a ship's season if things don't work out. 

For the China market, RCI has fewer itineraries to allow for such changes, but unlikely they would change anything less than a year out, like they did with Indy in the UK. For real short term issues, like on one day they an't use the port, they just change that one itinerary.

 

Fain seems to have backup plans:

 

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Royal Caribbean Cruises is well-prepared to adapt to a changing marketplace, according to Chairman and CEO Richard Fain, speaking on the company’s second quarter earnings call.

 

“When circumstances change, we are prepared to adapt. While no one is recession-proof, looking forward, I think the industry has features that make it recession resistant,” he said. “The growing appeal of our product, the relative price attractiveness, the fixed cost component, the portability of our assets, et cetera; all of these things make us better able to do well even in bad times.

“A good example of that would be China, where Spectrum of the Seas started operating just a few weeks ago,” Fain continued. “Conventional wisdom suggests that bringing a new ship into a market whose economy is weakening ain't such a good idea. But Spectrum and our other ships there are doing very well, despite the softer economy.”

 

CFO Jason Liberty said that company had plans and scenarios it would consider if the economy slowed down.

Liberty said the multi-brand cruise corporation operates a worldwide business that can source guests globally.

“We also have itineraries that go to a thousand different places,” Liberty said. “So what's available to our guest is much more.

“We also have a much stronger balance sheet and a much stronger liquidity position,” he continued. “And I think we would evaluate our plans in case there was a change in the winds.”

 

That being said, Liberty said the company was not seeing any of those changes whether it's booking levels, even daily, or onboard performance.

 

Looking back to the last recession, Liberty said there was regret that the company pulled back on its growth.

“We would all be talking about higher earnings numbers today, better return profile today, if we hadn't slowed down our growth or our investment efforts in expanding our global footprint, investing in different projects that would have put us in an even stronger position than we are today.”

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Fingers crossed for Spectrum going to Singapore and perhaps doing a few of the Singapore/Dubai routes....

 

LB.... who may be just dreaming.

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13 minutes ago, little britain said:

Fingers crossed for Spectrum going to Singapore and perhaps doing a few of the Singapore/Dubai routes....

Like Quantum, I don't see Spectrum leaving the Pacific region.

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Voyager has 2 cruises removed from the website. 

12 April 2021 South Pacific 

21 April 2021 Sydney to Singapore. 

 

Brisbane Ports show a booking for Voyager 14 April 2021 which is not on the original South Pacific Cruise.

Brisbane still has the booking for 23 April 2021 for the repositioning. 

 

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On 8/3/2019 at 1:55 PM, holiday-shrek said:

Only because they almost give them away!

Galveston always has the lowest pricing in the fleet!

 

On 8/3/2019 at 2:19 PM, kruzerci said:

 

Exactly!

 

Galveston is a miserable port to sail out of in terms of traffic/terminal congestion and distance from airport. That said we have done it a couple times because prices are absurdly low on Liberty compared to Florida during the summer. 

 

I must disagree. Galveston is my home port & the sailings are not cheap! Maybe if you book them way-way in advance, but once they begin to sell out, they are much higher than I find them to be sailing from Florida. There are so many more sailings from Florida, they sell for a lot less. Only two RC ships sail from Galveston at a time... THAT is why they sell out fast. 

 

As for it being a “miserable port”.... I find it wonderfully easy.... as I sail from there often & also drive to the port... easy peasy. They are making lots of improvements to the terminal & now adding a third one, will make it even better! 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, SRV FAN said:

I must disagree. Galveston is my home port & the sailings are not cheap! Maybe if you book them way-way in advance, but once they begin to sell out, they are much higher than I find them to be sailing from Florida.  

Do a search of RCI sailings on CruisePlum and sort on the per day price (click on the top of the column)  - you'll find lots of sailings from Galveston at the top of that list (lowest cost per day).

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As for it being a “miserable port”.... I find it wonderfully easy.... as I sail from there often & also drive to the port... easy peasy.

 

As a Houstonian, you'd think I'd sail from Galveston all the time. I never have. I sailed from Houston once, when Houston had its own cruise port. However, even with my lack of experience, I'll acknowledge that it's a great port if you live in the area, as all you have to do is drive there and walk on the ship. But getting to Galveston from elsewhere is bound to be a pain, as it's quite a drive from IAH (and still something of a drive from HOU). Whether the port is miserable or lovely, that part's going to be a hassle. Factor in traffic and construction (which I-45 has never not had in its entire existence), and ugh! 🙂

 

One day, I swear, I'm going to take a cruise from Galveston. It's a bit weird that I don't, I guess. 🙂

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2 hours ago, springaussie said:

Voyager has 2 cruises removed from the website. 

12 April 2021 South Pacific 

21 April 2021 Sydney to Singapore. 

 

Brisbane Ports show a booking for Voyager 14 April 2021 which is not on the original South Pacific Cruise.

Brisbane still has the booking for 23 April 2021 for the repositioning. 

 

 

 

Hmmm I am booked on the April 21/21 Voyager Sydney to SIngapore.  Will be watching this. thanks for this info.  Are you saying Brisbane has a Voyager booking April 23/21 repositioning...wonder to where?   

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5 minutes ago, emmy said:

 

 

Hmmm I am booked on the April 21/21 Voyager Sydney to SIngapore.  Will be watching this. thanks for this info.  Are you saying Brisbane has a Voyager booking April 23/21 repositioning...wonder to where?   

 

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6 minutes ago, emmy said:

 

 

Hmmm I am booked on the April 21/21 Voyager Sydney to SIngapore.  Will be watching this. thanks for this info.  Are you saying Brisbane has a Voyager booking April 23/21 repositioning...wonder to where?   

Yes 

Brisbane has 2 bookings under the Voyager name in April 2021.

 

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1 hour ago, SRV FAN said:

 

 

I must disagree. Galveston is my home port & the sailings are not cheap! Maybe if you book them way-way in advance, but once they begin to sell out, they are much higher than I find them to be sailing from Florida. There are so many more sailings from Florida, they sell for a lot less. Only two RC ships sail from Galveston at a time... THAT is why they sell out fast. 

 

As for it being a “miserable port”.... I find it wonderfully easy.... as I sail from there often & also drive to the port... easy peasy. They are making lots of improvements to the terminal & now adding a third one, will make it even better! 

 

 

Easy challenge:

Name 3 dates where the same class of ships is significantly more expensive per day out of Galveston vs all of Florida!

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Now Darwin has Voyager of the Seas booking 21April 2021.

Is she off to Europe?

Starting to look that way. 

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1 hour ago, springaussie said:

Now Darwin has Voyager of the Seas booking 21April 2021.

Is she off to Europe?

Starting to look that way. 

It does look that way.   

Maybe the civil unrest in Hong Kong has already prompted action.   Or perhaps they already had a plan to replace Voyager.   Maybe the Unnamed Vessel in Sydney port calendar replaces Voyager not Serenade.  

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2 hours ago, springaussie said:

Now Darwin has Voyager of the Seas booking 21April 2021.

Is she off to Europe?

Starting to look that way. 

Currently the port listings don't show Voyager in Europe for 2021, but many other RCCL cruise ships.

Edited by SummmerInKefalonia

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15 hours ago, Carnival4U said:

Easy challenge:

Name 3 dates where the same class of ships is significantly more expensive per day out of Galveston vs all of Florida!

It is unusual to have folks 

bragging for having to pay more for a cruise 

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On 7/30/2019 at 1:58 PM, John&LaLa said:

 

I'm sure LA would've appreciated her

 

At one time I would agree with that.  However, with Carnival and Princess putting new/newer ships in Los Angeles, neither Empress nor Majesty could compete, IMO.

 

On 7/30/2019 at 11:41 AM, Biker19 said:

https://www.gibraltarport.com/schedules

 

Gibraltar shows Jewel 5/21/21, Explorer 5/13/21 (and several more times), Indy 6/8/21, Anthem 6/30/21 (and a few others), Jewel 8/30/21 and 4/13/22 along with Indy and Anthem in '22.

 

Thank you for starting a new thread!👍

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If an Oasis class is coming to Galveston in 2021 guess I know where we’ll be sailing from.  Back to Galveston it will be.  We’ve been on the Liberty about 8? times so we’ve been flying to other ports.  I’d be happy to come back but the ports are same old, same old. Still it’s cheaper to drive then fly and we stay in a Houston hotel the night before as Galveston is pricey. The Oasis class is not our favorite but we do like all the options it offers.

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Make Sense that Quantum of the Seas is schedule in New Zealand, probably to replace Serenade, as Serenade is schedule to call in St. Maarten late 2021 & 2022.

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No one will be interested.

 

Monterey California 2022

 

March 9, Wednesday 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Royal Class TBA
March 23, Wednesday 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Royal Class TBA
April 6, Wednesday 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Royal Class TBA
April 20, Wednesday 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Royal Class TBA
May 4, Wednesday 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.

Royal Class TBA

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7 minutes ago, springaussie said:

No one will be interested.

 

Monterey California 2022

 

March 9, Wednesday 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Royal Class TBA
March 23, Wednesday 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Royal Class TBA
April 6, Wednesday 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Royal Class TBA
April 20, Wednesday 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m. Royal Class TBA
May 4, Wednesday 8:00 a.m. - 6:00 p.m.

Royal Class TBA

This does mean Princess, right?  

Oh, and I am interested! 

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43 minutes ago, geoff2802 said:

This does mean Princess, right?  

Oh, and I am interested! 

Never thought of that Geoff.

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On 7/30/2019 at 5:40 PM, CruisingJoe09 said:

Seems like it will be either Allure or Harmony taking over in Galveston.

 

On 7/30/2019 at 6:22 PM, FloGaleRNTX said:

YEAH!!!!! I know Texans could fill either one!!

 

I feel as if Allure, given she will be fresh out of dry dock, will head to Galveston. With the new project for a pier at Grand Cayman, she would be able to sail the itineraries Liberty currently sails!

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9 minutes ago, springaussie said:

Am I right in saying 2 Oasis Ships will be in Europe 2021. Oasis 5 and Harmony for 5 year dry dock.

Currently only Harmony is confirmed in the Med via the Palma de Mallorca port schedule. 

 

So I would think O5 will head elsewhere immediately after delivery. 

Edited by OfTheSeasCruiser

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