Predict when cruising will start again post-Coronavirus

[Chiliburn]

12 minutes ago, mr walker said:

Not an expert here, but doesn't stop many others 🙂

 

I think it will be at least well into 2021 before any normality in international travel resumes, and the regulations will make it very unattractive for travelers, unless for imperative reasons. At some point I believe the quarantine for arrivals will become at the travelers expense. Why should taxpayers continue to pay for costs for non-essential travel of others.

For example, Fiji have just announced that travelers arriving there will have to be quarantined for 28 days, with all costs to be borne by the traveler. No point in going to Fiji for a week, if you have to pay for another month!

I suggest that there may be some scope for domestic cruising (Aussies only) from perhaps Jan '21, but the 'keeness' for cruising will be impacted by need for medical clearance and the travel insurance conundrum (that will be kicker for me). For cruises to Sth Pacific Islands, I can't see that before the 'regular' season starting Sept/Oct 2021, and I think that's optimistic.

 

We are extra keen cruisers, who had expected to continue to average at least 2 cruises per year for the next many years, but I think that this is all less likely in the short/medium term. Our experience with insurance on recent/current cruise bookings is enough to put me off. 

 

Very sad times.

There’s talk about a free movement zone mr Walker.

New Zealand has suggested opening travel across the Tasman.

If they work that out I think we could see a fairly normal cruise season.

[Aus Traveller]

13 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

There’s talk about a free movement zone mr Walker.

New Zealand has suggested opening travel across the Tasman.

If they work that out I think we could see a fairly normal cruise season.

Maybe our cruise to NZ in November might go ahead - if Australia lets cruise ships back into the country.

[OzKiwiJJ]

16 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

There’s talk about a free movement zone mr Walker.

New Zealand has suggested opening travel across the Tasman.

If they work that out I think we could see a fairly normal cruise season.

But without the travellers from outside Australia/NZ who probably account for 30-40% of bookings.

[Kiwi Kruzer]

16 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

There’s talk about a free movement zone mr Walker.

New Zealand has suggested opening travel across the Tasman.

If they work that out I think we could see a fairly normal cruise season.

Trans Tasman is almost an essential . Australians flying over to the ski fields and Kiwis heading for some winter sun .

[Chiliburn]

1 hour ago, Aus Traveller said:

Maybe our cruise to NZ in November might go ahead - if Australia lets cruise ships back into the country.

I think so the ships are already quarantined,they just need clean  crew .

 

1 hour ago, OzKiwiJJ said:

But without the travellers from outside Australia/NZ who probably account for 30-40% of bookings.

I think the cruise line will take any revenue.

[Pushka]

1 hour ago, Chiliburn said:

There’s talk about a free movement zone mr Walker.

New Zealand has suggested opening travel across the Tasman.

If they work that out I think we could see a fairly normal cruise season.

I don't see cruises being in that mix somehow. 

[Aus Traveller]

We received an email with some great specials from P&O, but don't feel like booking at the moment while we have money outstanding with them and also with Princess. After our refunds appear in our bank account and there is an indication travel restrictions will be lifted somewhat, we will be ready to book.

[GUT2407]

If my Chrystal ball was good enough to predict when cruising would be back, I won’t waste its powers with that question, my question would revolve around lotto numbers.

[Chiliburn]

I think cruising will definitely change.

I wonder if they will hit us with a corona virus surcharge to cover the extra cleaning and quarantine?

[MicCanberra]

There will definitely be different boarding and debarkation processes

[By The Bay]

On 4/18/2020 at 7:41 AM, MicCanberra said:

There will definitely be different boarding and debarkation processes

From Sky News. Maybe something like this?

 

"Mining giant Rio Tinto has revealed plans to take blood tests from fly-in-fly-out workers at Perth Airport. All workers will have a small sample taken by finger pinprick before they can board flights to mining sites. The TGA approved COVID-19 test kits take a few minutes to show a result and those who are cleared receive a wristband. The screenings will be conducted in a makeshift medical facility at the airport, by 115 laid-off theatre nurses."

Edited April 20, 2020 by By The Bay

[Blackduck59]

12 minutes ago, By The Bay said:

From Sky News. Maybe something like this?

 

"Mining giant Rio Tinto has revealed plans to take blood tests from fly-in-fly-out workers at Perth Airport. All workers will have a small sample taken by finger pinprick before they can board flights to mining sites. The TGA approved COVID-19 test kits take a few minutes to show a result and those who are cleared receive a wristband. The screenings will be conducted in a makeshift medical facility at the airport, by 115 laid-off theatre nurses."

 

Such an interesting concept. I haven't heard of this test it could be helpful, unfortunately it could also be a huge breech of privacy laws. Blood samples are a touchy subject, because information could be mis-used. DNA databases are a powerful thing in the wrong hands.

[MicCanberra]

The blood tests are a usual practice, for some mining companies anyway, although much more random and they are usually testing for drugs and such.

[Pushka]

52 minutes ago, By The Bay said:

From Sky News. Maybe something like this?

 

"Mining giant Rio Tinto has revealed plans to take blood tests from fly-in-fly-out workers at Perth Airport. All workers will have a small sample taken by finger pinprick before they can board flights to mining sites. The TGA approved COVID-19 test kits take a few minutes to show a result and those who are cleared receive a wristband. The screenings will be conducted in a makeshift medical facility at the airport, by 115 laid-off theatre nurses."

Is this the antibody test or for a positive to COvid? Such tests may unlock the future of travel. 

[Chiliburn]

I read on another forum that emigrate airlines is doing it.

[The_Big_M]

A couple of airlines are doing it, as a trial in limited numbers. 

 

But it's not a full on test, just a screening service (and voluntary in those cases).

[By The Bay]

Interesting comment, not Australia or New Zealand first.

 

"CARNIVAL Corp Chief Executive Officer Arnold Donald has said China may be among the first countries to cruise again, as the COVID-19 pandemic eases. Although he isn’t sure where said Chinese cruises would go, Donald said it might be possible, as it is one of the first countries to resume some forms of social gathering." Source: Cruise Weekly

Edited April 21, 2020 by By The Bay

[By The Bay]

From Cruise Weekly. HELLOWORLD Travel Chief Executive Officer Andrew Burnes.

 

“I firmly believe cruise will come back, most likely from mid-2021 and beyond, once the operators have sorted out their safety and health issues,”

[Chiliburn]

I see RC are offering bag storage for $26 a day  on disembarkation.

 On the cruise planner it said the storage is 350 meters from OPT.
Where would that be ? The clock tower at the rocks isn’t that far.

Also they can Organization transport after your day of adventure.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Chiliburn

[Pushka]

2 hours ago, Chiliburn said:

I see RC are offering bag storage for $26 a day  on disembarkation.

 On the cruise planner it said the storage is 350 meters from OPT.
Where would that be ? The clock tower at the rocks isn’t that far.

Also they can Organization transport after your day of adventure.

Umm. Confusen?

[Chiliburn]

1 hour ago, Pushka said:

Umm. Confusen?

What is confusing.

Royal Carribean is offering baggage storage after your cruise.

 I haven’t seen it offered in Australia,maybe we are catching up with the world.

Some US ports such as Seattle offer cabin to your final destination service 

Edited April 21, 2020 by Chiliburn

[ilikeanswers]

20 minutes ago, Chiliburn said:

What is confusing.

Royal Carribean is offering baggage storage after your cruise.

 I haven’t seen it offered in Australia,maybe we are catching up with the world.

Some US ports such as Seattle offer cabin to your final destination service 

 

I think what is confusing is what this has to do with when cruises will restart. It feels like your post should be on different thread because it doesn't fit in with any discussion on this thread unless you are suggesting that RC offering baggage storage is a sign they will restart cruising soon? 

Edited April 21, 2020 by ilikeanswers

[Chiliburn]

20 minutes ago, ilikeanswers said:

 

I think what is confusing is what this has to do with when cruises will restart. It feels like your post should be on different thread because it doesn't fit in with any discussion on this thread unless you are suggesting that RC offering baggage storage is a sign they will restart cruising soon? 

So what you’re saying it’s off topic ?

 I would start a new topic but I’m to lazy.

Edited April 21, 2020 by Chiliburn

[MicCanberra]

HMMM, I would like to have my bags stored on the ship, as it would mean it is a B2B.

[Chiliburn]

1 minute ago, MicCanberra said:

HMMM, I would like to have my bags stored on the ship, as it would mean it is a B2B.

Well this is it mic ,if you stay on the ship you don’t have to think about those annoying bags.