P&O Cruisers - What are things like where YOU are?

[wowzz]

3 hours ago, grapau27 said:

I Absolutely agree with you.

I wasn't aware of the visor restriction in Scotland.

I use an expensive hard plastic visor which totalling covers my face,ears, forehead and chin but some of the flimsy visors look useless.

Lots of signs in the shops, bars and restaurants that we have been visiting, stipulating that masks must be worn, and that visors are NOT acceptable. Understandable really,  as they are of no use whatsoever.

[Eglesbrech]

4 minutes ago, wowzz said:

Lots of signs in the shops, bars and restaurants that we have been visiting, stipulating that masks must be worn, and that visors are NOT acceptable. Understandable really,  as they are of no use whatsoever.

When the visors were banned up here there was a lot of debate around it. 
 

Some scientists said the masks were better because they contain breathe however others argued that they become damp quickly so become useless and are more apt to be dirty, contaminated and cause secondary skin and chest infections.

 

Others argued that the full plastic visors were better because they are so much cleaner and protect the eyes where the virus can also apparently be contracted. Others argued that while they protect the wearer to some extent they don’t protect others as breathe goes out round them.

 

So to be really safe you probably need both on.

[wowzz]

2 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said:

When the visors were banned up here there was a lot of debate around it. 
 

Some scientists said the masks were better because they contain breathe however others argued that they become damp quickly so become useless and are more apt to be dirty, contaminated and cause secondary skin and chest infections.

 

Others argued that the full plastic visors were better because they are so much cleaner and protect the eyes where the virus can also apparently be contracted. Others argued that while they protect the wearer to some extent they don’t protect others as breathe goes out round them.

 

So to be really safe you probably need both on.

Yes, wearing a mask protects others, but wearing a visor does nothing to inhibit transmission of the virus. 

[Harry Peterson]

Masks may provide better protection for the wearer (and everyone in fact) than first thought.  Not yet peer reviewed, but an interesting hypothesis from a reputable US source.  Unlike the disreputable US source that spouts garbage.

 

As SARS-CoV-2 continues its global spread, it’s possible that one of the pillars of Covid-19 pandemic control — universal facial masking — might help reduce the severity of disease and ensure that a greater proportion of new infections are asymptomatic. If this hypothesis is borne out, universal masking could become a form of “variolation” that would generate immunity and thereby slow the spread of the virus in the United States and elsewhere, as we await a vaccine.

 

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2026913

 

 

[grapau27]

2 hours ago, SarahHben said:

I’m currently doing my packing for a week’s holiday in Devon & have re-packed the whole case 3 times so far, trying to fit enough warm jumpers in 🥴 I’m hoping that by having a case full of jeans and jumpers the weather might brighten up. There will only be my hubbie & me in the car do we should have loads of space but we seem to be taking everything but the kitchen sink for my daughter and the baby as her car is tiny. I’m terrible for not being able to pack light.
I love the thought of getting organised and starting the packing but it all goes pear shaped once I start!


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I hope you have a fantastic week's holiday.

Graham.

[grapau27]

1 hour ago, Adawn47 said:

That's alright John, I didn't take offence,  I know you wouldn't be so rude😊 As you say, they are easy to find if you can be bothered to look. Good old Mr Google😁

Avril

The confusion I pointed out to John Last night is that it is law in additional restrictions areas like ours where  you can't mix inside with people not living with you but only advised not to mix socially outside.

John thought it was illegal to socialise outside but it is only an advisory when you Google the government covid19 website.

Graham.

[SarahHben]

20 minutes ago, grapau27 said:

I hope you have a fantastic week's holiday.

Graham.

Thank you, not quite a cruise but at least we'll have a balcony and a sea view 

[grapau27]

1 hour ago, wowzz said:

Lots of signs in the shops, bars and restaurants that we have been visiting, stipulating that masks must be worn, and that visors are NOT acceptable. Understandable really,  as they are of no use whatsoever.

A lot of the cheap visors are useless.

Mine covers a few inches above my head and below my chin and totally covers my ears and is a hard plastic not a thin flexible film.

I have not seen any signs prohibiting visors anywhere.

I do carry a medical reusable mask and wear this as well as the visor when visiting a medical facility.

Graham.

[wowzz]

3 minutes ago, grapau27 said:

A lot of the cheap visors are useless.

Mine covers a few inches above my head and below my chin and totally covers my ears and is a hard plastic not a thin flexible film.

I have not seen any signs prohibiting visors anywhere.

I do carry a medical reusable mask and wear this as well as the visor when visiting a medical facility.

Graham.

Graham, yours sounds much more effective than most of those I have seen. Having said that, I have seen the signs not allowing visors, and, not that it will concern you at the moment, most airlines insist on masks, not visors.

[grapau27]

1 minute ago, SarahHben said:

Thank you, not quite a cruise but at least we'll have a balcony and a sea view 

That is perfect.

There is a sea front hotel in Sunderland we have stayed several times and book 1 of their only 3 suites with windows down to the ground and literally sit there for several hours having a drink and meal and looking out at the lovely beach and North Sea.

Graham.

 

[SarahHben]

6 minutes ago, grapau27 said:

That is perfect.

There is a sea front hotel in Sunderland we have stayed several times and book 1 of their only 3 suites with windows down to the ground and literally sit there for several hours having a drink and meal and looking out at the lovely beach and North Sea.

Graham.

 

That sounds lovely!

I'm looking forward to hearing the waves as I go to sleep. It will just be nice to get away, even if it rains all week.

[Eglesbrech]

8 minutes ago, grapau27 said:

That is perfect.

There is a sea front hotel in Sunderland we have stayed several times and book 1 of their only 3 suites with windows down to the ground and literally sit there for several hours having a drink and meal and looking out at the lovely beach and North Sea.

Graham.

 

Is that the one where one of the suites has a big round turret made of glass so you can look out. We always got that one, the suite with the large model boat. Lovely place.

[grapau27]

5 minutes ago, SarahHben said:

That sounds lovely!

I'm looking forward to hearing the waves as I go to sleep. It will just be nice to get away, even if it rains all week.

It is nice to get away and your holiday location sounds fabulous.

I hope you have lovely weather during the week too.

Graham.

 

[grapau27]

12 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said:

Is that the one where one of the suites has a big round turret made of glass so you can look out. We always got that one, the suite with the large model boat. Lovely place.

Seaburn Marriott now Grand.

The 3 suites are shown here.

They are usually around £150 per night bed and breakfast but we normally get room service and sit looking out  the curved window for hours.

Edited October 1, 2020 by grapau27

[Eglesbrech]

3 minutes ago, grapau27 said:

Seaburn Marriott now Grand.

The 3 suites are shown here.

They are usually around £150 per night bed and breakfast but we normally get room service and sit looking out  the curved window for hours.

That’s the one, always loved the boat room. Nice tearoom along the way at the Lighthouse as well.

[grapau27]

9 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said:

That’s the one, always loved the boat room. Nice tearoom along the way at the Lighthouse as well.

Fantastic beaches too.

It's only 15 minutes drive from home.

Edited October 1, 2020 by grapau27

[kalos]

17 minutes ago, grapau27 said:

Seaburn Marriott now Grand.

The 3 suites are shown here.

They are usually around £150 per night bed and breakfast but we normally get room service and sit looking out  the curved window for hours.

 

We use those rooms a lot unless we use the seafront apartment down Roker Pier but 

more often than not we do stay here.

 

Looks pretty at night as well     

 

[grapau27]

3 minutes ago, kalos said:

 

We use those rooms a lot unless we use the seafront apartment down Roker Pier but 

more often than not we do stay here.

 

Looks pretty at night as well     

 

Perfect photo's Kalos.

You capture the view perfectly.

We always like the jacuzzi bath too.

[terrierjohn]

1 hour ago, grapau27 said:

The confusion I pointed out to John Last night is that it is law in additional restrictions areas like ours where  you can't mix inside with people not living with you but only advised not to mix socially outside.

John thought it was illegal to socialise outside but it is only an advisory when you Google the government covid19 website.

Graham.

No Graham that's not what I thought  whilst it is not illegal to socialise outside and you would not be fined, it is nevertheless strongly recommended that you avoid it, and law abiding and conscientious  citizens should be avoiding this, except in very socially distanced exercise groups. Which is the recommendation on the website.

Edited October 1, 2020 by terrierjohn

[grapau27]

19 minutes ago, terrierjohn said:

No Graham that's not what I thought  whilst it is not illegal to socialise outside and you would not be fined, it is nevertheless strongly recommended that you avoid it, and law abiding and conscientious  citizens should be avoiding this, except in very socially distanced exercise groups. Which is the recommendation on the website.

Actually I only checked the gov website after you mentioned to be careful last night and it is very confusing but unfair that people might not meet a loved family member outside because of it.

A contact told me they are inundated with mental health enquiries.

Graham.

[terrierjohn]

1 hour ago, grapau27 said:

Actually I only checked the gov website after you mentioned to be careful last night and it is very confusing but unfair that people might not meet a loved family member outside because of it.

A contact told me they are inundated with mental health enquiries.

Graham.

It's the same for us Graham, we had only been out of lockdown for 3 weeks when Kirklees was put in special measures, then our area was released, only to be back under tight control in less than 3 weeks this time.

But this is the situation we are in until there is either a vaccine or we learn to live with covid without it getting out of control. Unfortunately the latter seems very unlikely as long as people are unwilling to follow sensible recommendations to avoid the spread of the virus. And of course the vulnerable are always the first to suffer.

[Adawn47]

3 hours ago, grapau27 said:

The confusion I pointed out to John Last night is that it is law in additional restrictions areas like ours where  you can't mix inside with people not living with you but only advised not to mix socially outside.

John thought it was illegal to socialise outside but it is only an advisory when you Google the government covid19 website.

Graham.

Oh dear, now I'm confused again. It's been a very long day😕

Avril😉

[Vampiress88]

11 minutes ago, Adawn47 said:

Oh dear, now I'm confused again. It's been a very long day😕

Avril😉

I’m confused too. Never know what’s going on. Sticking to the house just seems like the best way to keep out of trouble lately 

[grapau27]

6 minutes ago, Adawn47 said:

Oh dear, now I'm confused again. It's been a very long day😕

Avril😉

It makes concientious people too frightened to go out and mix with friends or family outside because it is contradictory but people like Cummings know it is full of loopholes.

It is advisory only not to mix outdoors but up to 6 people can still do this.

 

[grapau27]

32 minutes ago, terrierjohn said:

It's the same for us Graham, we had only been out of lockdown for 3 weeks when Kirklees was put in special measures, then our area was released, only to be back under tight control in less than 3 weeks this time.

But this is the situation we are in until there is either a vaccine or we learn to live with covid without it getting out of control. Unfortunately the latter seems very unlikely as long as people are unwilling to follow sensible recommendations to avoid the spread of the virus. And of course the vulnerable are always the first to suffer.

I agree,we have personally adhered strictly to all the guidelines but

If only Boris had reprimanded Cummings people's attitudes would have been more tolerant of all the lockdown implications.

Edited October 1, 2020 by grapau27