firsttimers68 Posted April 20, 2020 #76 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Thank you for the heads up. We have a cruise booked in August, and on checking my TA website I see the price pp has been reduced by approx £1,000. As there are 4 of us on this cruise, that is a lot of money! I'm now waiting for TA to speak with Oceania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted April 20, 2020 #77 Share Posted April 20, 2020 6 hours ago, LHT28 said: Only time will tell 😎 I like your crystal ball 😀 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firsttimers68 Posted April 20, 2020 #78 Share Posted April 20, 2020 My travel agent t has said Oceania will give us the new reduced fares, but they have also changed from OLife ultimate to a choice of one benefit. Still a massive saving for us. I just hope the world returns to some sort of normalcy by then. Horrible times at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisingaussies Posted April 20, 2020 #79 Share Posted April 20, 2020 I’m watching a cruise in December. The price over a few weeks has gone up and down, with Ultimate, then a lower price with only one benefit. For the moment the price differential isn’t that great. I guess they are testing the waters (no pun intended). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff-FLL Posted April 20, 2020 #80 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Vis-à-vis Oceania allowing a 2nd use of the FCC if the rescheduled cruise is also cancelled… Pretend you signed a contract for someone to paint your house. Two days prior to starting, he falls and breaks his leg. He calls you, lets you know, and gives you your choice of a refund or, if you let him hold onto the money, he’ll reschedule you and he’ll paint the living room for free. You go for the credit and schedule something for 6 months later. Two days prior to starting, he falls and breaks his arm so he can’t begin or complete the work again. Does he get to say, “Sorry, we’ve tried to do this twice and it didn’t work out. Not my fault – act of God. Oh, by the way, I’m not refunding your money.”? (If you answer “yes” to that question, I have a painting contract for you to sign.) If they were to impose a new restriction for 70+, that would probably amount to a major change in the terms and conditions of the contract. In such a case, a person who was precluded from sailing would most certainly be entitled to a refund. FYI, not an attorney. Just someone who’s probably seen one episode too many of The People’s Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted April 20, 2020 #81 Share Posted April 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, Cliff-FLL said: Vis-à-vis Oceania allowing a 2nd use of the FCC if the rescheduled cruise is also cancelled… Pretend you signed a contract for someone to paint your house. Two days prior to starting, he falls and breaks his leg. He calls you, lets you know, and gives you your choice of a refund or, if you let him hold onto the money, he’ll reschedule you and he’ll paint the living room for free. You go for the credit and schedule something for 6 months later. Two days prior to starting, he falls and breaks his arm so he can’t begin or complete the work again. Does he get to say, “Sorry, we’ve tried to do this twice and it didn’t work out. Not my fault – act of God. Oh, by the way, I’m not refunding your money.”? (If you answer “yes” to that question, I have a painting contract for you to sign.) If they were to impose a new restriction for 70+, that would probably amount to a major change in the terms and conditions of the contract. In such a case, a person who was precluded from sailing would most certainly be entitled to a refund. FYI, not an attorney. Just someone who’s probably seen one episode too many of The People’s Court. There you go making sense again 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs f. Posted April 20, 2020 #82 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Thanks to being alerted by this group as to cruise reduction (cruise only), my TA just confirmed our new Dec 1 Australia cruise is $3,0000 less per person.🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnino Posted April 21, 2020 #83 Share Posted April 21, 2020 22 hours ago, Cliff-FLL said: Vis-à-vis Oceania allowing a 2nd use of the FCC if the rescheduled cruise is also cancelled… Pretend you signed a contract for someone to paint your house. Two days prior to starting, he falls and breaks his leg. He calls you, lets you know, and gives you your choice of a refund or, if you let him hold onto the money, he’ll reschedule you and he’ll paint the living room for free. You go for the credit and schedule something for 6 months later. Two days prior to starting, he falls and breaks his arm so he can’t begin or complete the work again. Does he get to say, “Sorry, we’ve tried to do this twice and it didn’t work out. Not my fault – act of God. Oh, by the way, I’m not refunding your money.”? (If you answer “yes” to that question, I have a painting contract for you to sign.) If they were to impose a new restriction for 70+, that would probably amount to a major change in the terms and conditions of the contract. In such a case, a person who was precluded from sailing would most certainly be entitled to a refund. FYI, not an attorney. Just someone who’s probably seen one episode too many of The People’s Court. Where can I watch "The People's Court: Marshall Islands/Liberia/Bahamas/Panama Edition"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff-FLL Posted April 21, 2020 #84 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Shawnino said: Where can I watch "The People's Court: Marshall Islands/Liberia/Bahamas/Panama Edition"? If I remember correctly from that time long ago that I actually read the contract, it stipulated -- and I'm paraphrasing -- that any disputes would be litigated in state or Federal courts in Miami-Dade; ditto arbitration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnino Posted April 21, 2020 #85 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Cliff-FLL said: If I remember correctly from that time long ago that I actually read the contract, it stipulated -- and I'm paraphrasing -- that any disputes would be litigated in state or Federal courts in Miami-Dade; ditto arbitration. Did not know this--thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ORV Posted April 21, 2020 #86 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Shawnino said: Did not know this--thanks. Guest Ticket Contract, clause 27, parts b & c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallydave Posted April 23, 2020 #87 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 4/17/2020 at 7:14 PM, Hawaiidan said: Yup.....its closer to 50% increase 10,600 went to 16,000 PH3 Try almost 57% increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted April 23, 2020 #88 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, rallydave said: Try almost 57% increase. Well I still booked.... they softened the hit by giving free gratuities and $1000 obc for a 14 day. I was able to cancel 2 other cruises and roll both deposits into the one cruise. Interesting enough, my agent said the cruise was selling well. Sept 20 departure AMS to LIS I think a lot of people are just wound tight and willing to eat what ever increase just to have a hope for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthomas Posted April 23, 2020 #89 Share Posted April 23, 2020 A lot of people have FCCs and are using them for whatever is out there, realistic or not. So it seems like booking is going well. But it is a false impression. Would be interested in how many are actually giving deposits. But of course there is no way to know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted April 23, 2020 #90 Share Posted April 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, jonthomas said: A lot of people have FCCs and are using them for whatever is out there, realistic or not. So it seems like booking is going well. But it is a false impression. Would be interested in how many are actually giving deposits. But of course there is no way to know that. But you can't book without a deposit..... even with Future cruise credit. I had a credit but still had to pony up the deposit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted April 23, 2020 #91 Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, jonthomas said: So it seems like booking is going well. But it is a false impression. Would be interested in how many are actually giving deposits You need 13+ $1500 deposits to refund somebody $20K+ for a cancelled cruise - not a winning formula. And if they offer reduced deposits as an incentive - well, you can do the math. With this they haven't actually made any money per se, just covering cash payouts. Edited April 23, 2020 by Paulchili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthomas Posted April 23, 2020 #92 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Deposits are being moved from existing cruises to something further away. I did that. Some lines say FCCs are only good for new bookings, but some say you can apply it to anything. It is a wild west out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clo Posted April 23, 2020 #93 Share Posted April 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, jonthomas said: It is a wild west out there And I love that. Innovation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverroad Posted April 23, 2020 #94 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I received an email from O this morning urging me to use my FCC Certificate, purchased on board our Feb.-March cruise, to book a discounted 2020 or 2021 cruise. It clearly states no deposit will be required. The Certificate will serve as the deposit. How do they make any money on this since they already have my $700 ($350 pp) for the certificate? I guess they’re hoping I book something and end up paying for the cruise. We are not booking anything for 2020 and will wait for word about a vaccine before deciding on 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KS&JW Posted April 23, 2020 #95 Share Posted April 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Riverroad said: I received an email from O this morning urging me to use my FCC Certificate, purchased on board our Feb.-March cruise, to book a discounted 2020 or 2021 cruise. It clearly states no deposit will be required. The Certificate will serve as the deposit. A FCC certificate is a deposit. You have just purchased a deposit before knowing what cruise you wanted to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallydave Posted April 23, 2020 #96 Share Posted April 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, KS&JW said: A FCC certificate is a deposit. You have just purchased a deposit before knowing what cruise you wanted to take. Have to be careful with terminology. What is bought onboard is a future cruise deposit (FCD). A FCC is a future cruise credit that people are getting because of cancellations both by the cruise line snd by the cruiser. In many cases a FCC cannot be used for a deposit depending on the Ts snd Cs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverroad Posted April 23, 2020 #97 Share Posted April 23, 2020 42 minutes ago, KS&JW said: A FCC certificate is a deposit. You have just purchased a deposit before knowing what cruise you wanted to take. I understand that. I’m just wondering why they’re encouraging me to use it now when it wouldn’t yield any revenue for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KS&JW Posted April 23, 2020 #98 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, Riverroad said: I understand that. I’m just wondering why they’re encouraging me to use it now when it wouldn’t yield any revenue for them. You are more likely to take a cruise if you have already gone through the process of selecting it. Right now your FCD is just money. If you convert that into a specific cruise you are much more likely to take a cruise than if you did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susiesan Posted April 24, 2020 #99 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I had my TA reprice Marina Baltic cruise for Aug. 29, 2021. I saved $500 for the cabin, had to give up $25 OBC. Cat F inside now $5398, was $5898. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawnino Posted April 24, 2020 #100 Share Posted April 24, 2020 55 minutes ago, susiesan said: I had my TA reprice Marina Baltic cruise for Aug. 29, 2021. I saved $500 for the cabin, had to give up $25 OBC. Cat F inside now $5398, was $5898. How much deposit do they want on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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