Would you take a COVID test in order to cruise?

[CSHS1979]

45 minutes ago, irzero said:

 

More die from heart attack, heart disease, and obesity but you keep eating them burgers and all you can eat buffets still. 

 

In the UK 3x more people have died from Flu in the last 7 weeks than Covid19. 

 

Its also only mostly killed people who were going to die anyway. Last 8 week we have been below average deaths based on 5 year average.

 

I'm sure auto related deaths are down 

[BND]

And I don't know if anyone else saw it, but NZ who was so proud of their zero cases for something like 100 days, now has new cases.  This is the same issue the islands that currently have no or few cases, as they open back up to even non-Americans will end up with.  They won't be able to prevent it by limiting people visiting or even by testing because surprise, even if you're not American, you might have it and not show up positive.  So, all they did was delay it.  While I would take the test (and vaccine), it really won't make much difference due to false negatives..

Edited August 11, 2020 by BND

[Guest BigRoger]

It’s bound to be necessary to warrant to ports that the ship is virus feee when it sails.... but..... Bigger question here is whether you would be willing to have daily or every couple of days tests on board to be able to get off at ports.....

[Mapleleafforever]

4 hours ago, yogimax said:

Perhaps you didn't really read my post...

 

"And that's precisely why only a safe and efficient vaccine will make a difference."

 

Notice the word "safe?"

 

You also make the strange claim that 80% of the world population was already immune to COVID-19.  Is it possible you misread this from the highly respected Baylor School of Medicine?

 

 

"That means 80 percent of the population would appear to still be susceptible," said Dr. Robert Atmar, an infectious disease specialist at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. "So even in an area that has been highly affected, we're not seeing the levels that you would expect for herd immunity."

 

Big difference between your claim and the science!

 

 

Ah yes, sorry, I missed the "safe" part......in that case it may be never. 

 

Lately I've been paying attention to Dr. Michael Levitt, seems to be a pretty smart guy.....has a Nobel Prize and all....

 

 

Edited August 11, 2020 by Mapleleafforever

[Mapleleafforever]

3 hours ago, yogimax said:

I guess over 160,000 Americans weren't able to shrug it off.... and that's sad!

 

Sad indeed. Demograpnics of who passed are the same around the world though. 

[Milwaukee Eight]

I’m guessing this thread has less life left than a 100 yo with CV19 😇

 

M8

[ThirstyCruiser]

6 hours ago, yogimax said:

You also make the strange claim that 80% of the world population was already immune to COVID-19.

 

I don't know if the # is 80%, but information emerging about some having "natural" immunity to SARS-CoV-2.

 

One example story:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200716-the-people-with-hidden-protection-from-covid-19

 

 

[yogimax]

5 hours ago, TNcruising02 said:

The United States has over 328 million people.  Perspective.

 

58,000 Americans died in the Viet-Nam War.

160,000 Americans have died from COVID-19.

 

Does that give you some perspective?

[yogimax]

4 hours ago, irzero said:

 

Its also only mostly killed people who were going to die anyway. 

What total drivel.  Shame!

[TNcruising02]

4 minutes ago, yogimax said:

 

58,000 Americans died in the Viet-Nam War.

160,000 Americans have died from COVID-19.

 

Does that give you some perspective?

Just because less Americans died in a war doesn't mean that the death rate for covid is cause for hysteria and lockdowns. There are  331 million people in the US in 2020.  There were about 202 million in 1969.  We have 129 MILLION more people in the US now than in 1969.  Does that give you perspective on comparing the death rates per 100,000 people?

Edited August 12, 2020 by TNcruising02

[yogimax]

4 hours ago, irzero said:

 

This is the problem with numbers that look big to normal people really are not big when you talk about populations on the national scale. 

In that case, I'm glad I'm "normal"

[yogimax]

4 hours ago, irzero said:

 

No its not. I watch american TV and i can tell you that you lot are about as well informed as school children. Your media is the worst and thats saying something given how bad ours can be. 

 

Also your faith in masks is misplaced. They dont do anything and guess what.. Sweden doesnt mandate them either.

Looks like you only watch one station on American t.v..  Your political agenda is obvious.

 

Thank goodness most people will ignore your mask comment.

[time4u2go]

9 minutes ago, yogimax said:

 

58,000 Americans died in the Viet-Nam War.

160,000 Americans have died from COVID-19.

 

Does that give you some perspective?

Not to mention the fact that US involvement in the Vietnam War was over eight years, while covid deaths in the US have only occurred over the last five or six months. 

[Milwaukee Eight]

I thought we were talking about taking a COVID19 test in order to board?  @molly361 ?😇

[yogimax]

12 minutes ago, TNcruising02 said:

Just because less Americans died in a war doesn't mean that the death rate for covid is cause for hysteria and lockdowns. 

Those who refuse to wear masks and abide by lock downs are the ones who are truly hysterical!

[Coralc]

Sure. If they weren't taking 3 to 10 days to get results back, like they are in California. If they can do a rapid test, that would be fine. I don't have a problem with it. It is about trying to be safe onboard. 

[TNcruising02]

8 minutes ago, Milwaukee Eight said:

I thought we were talking about taking a COVID19 test in order to board?  @molly361 ?😇

Sorry.  We are.  Hopefully, if Covid is still an issue in 2021 like it is now, they are able to advance testing to the point where there is a rapid response tests that also detects the virus soon after contracting it.  I would actually prefer to be tested than to wear a mask.

Edited August 12, 2020 by TNcruising02

[yogimax]

21 minutes ago, yogimax said:

Those who refuse to wear masks and abide by lock downs are the ones who are truly hysterical!

oops!  should be "not abide by lock downs"

[ONECRUISER]

11 minutes ago, yogimax said:

Those who refuse to wear masks and abide by lock downs are the ones who are truly hysterical!

Yes we could have slowed down more but is here to stay for while. US never had a 100% Lockdown/Quarantine or even close, or would they ever. Lock down was to slow the Hospital cases, not make it go away. Even with Mask's many places isn't/wasn't Mandatory. Except for few walks in the Desert I stayed put at home from March 6-June 1st, have high risk Family members. Then flew back to Michigan one of the Hot Spot States and during this first outing many places requested Masks worn, wasnt required. Even IF we get a pretty reliable Vaccine for CV it'll isnt going anywhere for long time. With 70% pop saying they'd never get it, yes it will help but we have better chance burning itself out like most other US pandemics have last 100yrs.  Edit: Forgot mention, when flew back MI 1st of June no mask required at either Michigan or AZ Airports or on Airplane and 40% were not wearing one. Stores in MI Walmart, Kroger and Meijers, about same. In Michigan just last 2 weeks first time 100% wearing required at these stores.

[ONECRUISER]

21 minutes ago, ONECRUISER said:

Yes we could have slowed down more but is here to stay for while. US never had a 100% Lockdown/Quarantine or even close, or would they ever. Lock down was to slow the Hospital cases, not make it go away. Even with Mask's many places isn't/wasn't Mandatory. Except for few walks in the Desert I stayed put at home from March 6-June 1st, have high risk Family members. Then flew back to Michigan one of the Hot Spot States and during this first outing many places requested Masks worn, wasnt required. Even IF we get a pretty reliable Vaccine for CV it'll isnt going anywhere for long time. With 70% pop saying they'd never get it, yes it will help but we have better chance burning itself out like most other US pandemics have last 100yrs.  Edit: Forgot mention, when flew back MI 1st of June no mask required at either Michigan or AZ Airports or on Airplane and 40% were not wearing one. Stores in MI Walmart, Kroger and Meijers, about same. In Michigan just last 2 weeks first time 100% wearing required at these stores.

Oops, meant only 70% would and 30% said they wound not. Big Difference

[FSHLOT]

NO, i dont want a test to go cruising. I just think it's a waste of time because there is a chance it will be a false negative. Who has to pay for this testing? I'm sure it will be the passengers, they will most likely hide the charge somewhere in the booking. 

 

Just tired of all this paranoia. I'm not going to jump through hoops just to go on a ship we where spend thousands of dollars just to be lead around like sheep. For us, we will pass on the testing,mask wearing,and any other regulation they put in place. Cruising was fun while it lasted, But IMO it will never be back to what it once was.

[molly361]

Test timing will be interesting if tests are required. I can see people getting tested and not getting the results back in time

[momofmab]

Many universities have set up their own rapid testing centers to test students arriving on campus, so I'm sure cruise lines could do the same. 

 

Problem is "positives" may not show up for a few days on someone who has been recently exposed (my doctor suggested I get tested after being exposed to my daughter, who tested positive.  She recommended I wait 2-3 days after the exposure - self quarantining in the meantime, to eliminate the possibility of a false negative).

[molly361]

I don't see Royal

 

A Paying for everyone's test

B having hundreds or thousands of people milling around waiting for resulat

 

On the other hand " We will start with fewer cruises and shorter people " I'm in at 5 foot 2😇

[Milwaukee Eight]

2 hours ago, Biker19 said:

I don't think any of the lines outlined their detailed plan how they will handle a positive test.

Key point. CDC asked for the plan but the Cruise lines seem to be ignoring. 
 

M8