What are the latest facts in regards to Carnival getting ships ready?

[v3cruiser]

Anyone know any updates on published plans by parent company carnival plc or the carnival cruise line for starting cruises again? Any time tables? When do test cruises start and for what ships?

[DAllenTCY]

Ask CDC not CCL.

 

David

[joeyancho]

2 hours ago, v3cruiser said:

Anyone know any updates on published plans by parent company carnival plc or the carnival cruise line for starting cruises again? Any time tables? When do test cruises start and for what ships?

Only God knows and he ain't talkin

[BoozinCroozin]

There are no facts. The only fact that exists is the CDC have the ports closed. Anything beyond that is speculation. Cruise lines are "voluntarily" extending their cancelations, but the real reason is the CDC has not published a lick of information on what it will take to open ports. Since no foreign ports are open to cruise ships anyway, it is a moot point. 

 

Until the CDC presents a very distinct list of criteria to be met for ports to open, cruising is not happening. Since the CDC cares nothing about the cruise lines, I am now of the opinion that October is a best-case-scenario and that is extremely unlikely.

[Earthworm Jim]

1 hour ago, BoozinCroozin said:

There are no facts. The only fact that exists is the CDC have the ports closed. Anything beyond that is speculation. Cruise lines are "voluntarily" extending their cancelations, but the real reason is the CDC has not published a lick of information on what it will take to open ports. Since no foreign ports are open to cruise ships anyway, it is a moot point. 

 

Until the CDC presents a very distinct list of criteria to be met for ports to open, cruising is not happening. Since the CDC cares nothing about the cruise lines, I am now of the opinion that October is a best-case-scenario and that is extremely unlikely.

 

Are you sure no foreign ports are open to cruise ships? I haven't seen that. Information on that question seems very hard to come by, at least anything recent. But Mexico for one seems to be pretty much open, and I assume that includes for cruise ships (theoretically at least). In fact, there's been recent talk of using Cozumel, Progresso, and even Havana possibly acting as cruise ship home ports

 

https://www.cruisehive.com/will-we-see-cruise-ships-homeport-in-cozumel/46823

[rodndonna]

Not sure if this is  useful - but this CDC site gives the status of cruise ships which have submitted  plans to  CDC for review (so presume those are the ships expected to be first deployed from the lines).

 

For a point of reference - our ship is not yet on the list for being reviewed  😒  (it's a HAL Eurodam cruise in Dec 2021, but the first sailing for that ship is supposed to be Oct 31 departure)

 

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/crew-disembarkations-commercial-travel.html

 

[PhillyFan33579]

I have mentioned this before. I keep in touch with numerous crew members thru FB. I keep hearing the same thing from them, none of them have heard directly or indirectly about when crew members will return to work.  

[Cruiseboy06]

If somebody says the CDC closed the ports they are WRONG!!!!!   The ports are controlled by the state, city, and county, not the CDC

[ray98]

4 hours ago, Cruiseboy06 said:

If somebody says the CDC closed the ports they are WRONG!!!!!   The ports are controlled by the state, city, and county, not the CDC

 

Well....they didn't close the ports but they certainly issued a No Sail Order making it inconsequential.

[skridge]

2 hours ago, ray98 said:

 

Well....they didn't close the ports but they certainly issued a No Sail Order making it inconsequential.

Which was the right thing to do in the middle of a pandemic.

[Cruiseboy06]

5 hours ago, ray98 said:

 

Well....they didn't close the ports but they certainly issued a No Sail Order making it inconsequential.

US  ports are not used for ONLY cruise ships......... 

[ray98]

1 hour ago, Cruiseboy06 said:

US  ports are not used for ONLY cruise ships......... 

 

Oh....I thought I had drifted into the container ship section of Cruise Critic.

[ledges1]

15 hours ago, Cruiseboy06 said:

If somebody says the CDC closed the ports they are WRONG!!!!!   The ports are controlled by the state, city, and county, not the CDC

The State of Florida will determine if the state or city controls the port. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. 

[famski740]

The CDC does not close the ports, but I believe they do control what ships may sail in US waters.

[80sGal]

From what I've read in interviews with CEOS the issue is that CDC hasn't given them the technical guidelines to run the test cruises which makes the Conditional Sail Order no more than a de facto No Sail Order.  Based on what has been published though to run a test cruise the cruise line has to file a notice 30 days prior then run it and then after that trip then file a 60 day advance request to go with paying customers.  Meaning even if they started today it would be at least 95 days to sail (30 plus sailing time plus 60) so that means according to current rules May 1 isn't even possible.... but they haven't canceled May yet.