Edge announcement 2 crew positive

[Smmessineo]

Captain just announced around 6:30 that  2 crew tested  positive, no contacts traced, casino will be limiting services. No further details yet  .

Edited January 4, 2022 by Smmessineo

[Northern Aurora]

Please keep us updated as many will be following.  And hope you stay healthy and safe.

[Smmessineo]

Further info ...we left Nassau at 4 , casino was supposed to open at 5, still closed at 6 when we went to dinner. Announcement at 6:30, when we returned to casino around 7 slots had been opened but no one at tables. There then was an announcement that the Woodford event ( raffle) will still be held in casino at 8 pm. So they seem to be trying to work around the missing staff by changing hours? 

[deejayfore]

2 hours ago, Smmessineo said:

Captain just announced around 6:30 that  2 crew tested  positive, no contacts traced, casino will be limiting services. No further details yet  .

I think he said “all contacts traced and are in isolation or quarantine” which is why the casino has few staff now

[WonderMan3]

What about all the passengers who may have come into contact with those crew members in the casino?

[Arizona Wildcat]

39 minutes ago, WonderMan3 said:

What about all the passengers who may have come into contact with those crew members in the casino?

How would you know what passengers if any had close contact?

[jelayne]

There are cameras in the casino

[UniPac]

The cases during cruise will raise. Learned that from last three cruises. So if the cruise just started, there won't be lots of cases. But things can and will change during the cruise. Crossing my thumbs that it won't be more than a dozen cases in total.

[sun bum]

We will also be on the Edge starting Jan.30th. Praying it will be somewhat smooth sailing by then.

[Smmessineo]

9 hours ago, deejayfore said:

I think he said “all contacts traced and are in isolation or quarantine” which is why the casino has few staff now

Thanks for the further info, I guess I mistranslated him a bit there!  I figured he meant no traces among passengers. 

[ohiolovescrusing]

San Juan implemented new measures that said every person getting off a cruise ship must be tested in the previous 48 hours.  So many cruises are dropping that port right now. 

[TeeRick]

33 minutes ago, t18c97 said:

My take, we've had vaccines out for over a year now. We've been wearing masks for two years now. We've cancelled and changed vacations many times. Enough! If everyone is not going to get vaccinated to help stop the mutations that have been happening there's no end in sight so as some doctors have said Covid is here, it's not going away and we just have to live with it. 

For the most part we are all living with it now and will continue to do so long into the future.    The key is to get agencies and governments controlling the cruise lines to stop regulating them as a special case.   and to get the media to acknowledge that too.   Cruise ships are dealing with positive cases as are every other part of society.  But perhaps they have many more controls in place than your grocery store or restaurant or sports venue or just about any public place on land.  

[drakes2]

1 hour ago, TeeRick said:

But perhaps they have many more controls in place than your grocery store or restaurant or sports venue or just about any public place on land.  

Totally agree. I've been in busy grocery stores malls and department stores with very little distancing. I honestly felt safer on my November cruise

[Oxo]

3 minutes ago, drakes2 said:

I honestly felt safer on my November cruise

Yes, I agree we felt safer on our Nov cruise. However. This is Jan and totally different now as we all know.

[drakes2]

20 minutes ago, Oxo said:

Yes, I agree we felt safer on our Nov cruise. However. This is Jan and totally different now as we all know.

Our covid case numbers have dropped significantly in the past week so that's one positive sign. 

[Oxo]

14 minutes ago, drakes2 said:

Our covid case numbers have dropped significantly in the past week so that's one positive sign. 

Didn't Canada go to lock down today? 

Here in the US we hit 1m cases yesterday. FL keeps hitting new highs each day, too.

My personal belief, not an MD Dr.

Forget the cases as we have never seen so many people being tested. 

Track/report hospitalized. That would be of more value. JMHO

STAY SAFE!

[nocl]

1 hour ago, TeeRick said:

For the most part we are all living with it now and will continue to do so long into the future.    The key is to get agencies and governments controlling the cruise lines to stop regulating them as a special case.   and to get the media to acknowledge that too.   Cruise ships are dealing with positive cases as are every other part of society.  But perhaps they have many more controls in place than your grocery store or restaurant or sports venue or just about any public place on land.  

Last time I looked my grocery store, restaurant or sports venue were all domestic not international.

 

Cruises are by nature international.

 

Other than the CDC tracking cruise ship status and collecting infection reports, something that they do for other illnesses under the VSP. Of course some complain about that as well.  

 

They have not stopped a single ship from sailing.  The federal government has not stopped a single one from docking.

 

Many other countries have implemented even tighter restrictions than the US has, just as some of the island territories have.

 

The only thing that the Federal government can be accused of is making sure that the cruise lines have their protocols in place, which are certainly needed for Omicron.  There certainly is plenty of data showing the rate of spread of URI type illnesses on cruise ships with the closeness of space, the population density, and the rate of interactions of guests as they move about the ship, etc.

 

The protocols on board with vaccination, masking, etc go a long way to balance out the issues with the ships themselves.

 

I expect the recent tightening of protocols, including masking, based upon the timing, have strictly been the call of the cruise lines, in response to seeing cases on board. Each cruise line made their decisions at different times.  The only action that appears to be central in nature was the movement to 2 day from 3 day for pre-cruise testing.  The rest have been made by the lines individually and implemented at different times.

 

So far what is interesting is the appearance that the cruise lines that have had the more relaxed protocols have had more problems then those that were tighter before Dec 15.  That the cruises in the Caribbean leaving from Florida, are having more issues than those leaving from California.

 

Will make for a very interesting study about 6 months from now looking at the infection rates vs protocols.

 

Now I have to go take my test for an international flight, oh I guess I should be complaining that the rules there are different than domestic.

[TeeRick]

21 minutes ago, nocl said:

Last time I looked my grocery store, restaurant or sports venue were all domestic not international.

 

Cruises are by nature international.

 

Other than the CDC tracking cruise ship status and collecting infection reports, something that they do for other illnesses under the VSP. Of course some complain about that as well.  

 

They have not stopped a single ship from sailing.  The federal government has not stopped a single one from docking.

 

Many other countries have implemented even tighter restrictions than the US has, just as some of the island territories have.

 

The only thing that the Federal government can be accused of is making sure that the cruise lines have their protocols in place, which are certainly needed for Omicron.  There certainly is plenty of data showing the rate of spread of URI type illnesses on cruise ships with the closeness of space, the population density, and the rate of interactions of guests as they move about the ship, etc.

 

The protocols on board with vaccination, masking, etc go a long way to balance out the issues with the ships themselves.

 

I expect the recent tightening of protocols, including masking, based upon the timing, have strictly been the call of the cruise lines, in response to seeing cases on board. Each cruise line made their decisions at different times.  The only action that appears to be central in nature was the movement to 2 day from 3 day for pre-cruise testing.  The rest have been made by the lines individually and implemented at different times.

 

So far what is interesting is the appearance that the cruise lines that have had the more relaxed protocols have had more problems then those that were tighter before Dec 15.  That the cruises in the Caribbean leaving from Florida, are having more issues than those leaving from California.

 

Will make for a very interesting study about 6 months from now looking at the infection rates vs protocols.

 

Now I have to go take my test for an international flight, oh I guess I should be complaining that the rules there are different than domestic.

Good luck with your test!  Anyway my post did not really say anything about domestic vs. international.  

[nocl]

12 minutes ago, TeeRick said:

Good luck with your test!  Anyway my post did not really say anything about domestic vs. international.  

No but it was talking about cruise ship regulation, and a big part of that is because they are by nature international, while all of the other things you compared them with are domestic.  So while you did not state international vs domestic that you made the comparison comparing them to domestic venues.

 

Totally different regulatory environments.  International activities have to meet the requirements of multiple governments and the US is by no means the most strict.

Edited January 4, 2022 by nocl

[billyu]

1 hour ago, drakes2 said:

Our covid case numbers have dropped significantly in the past week so that's one positive sign. 

The only reason the numbers are dropping is because the great Doug Ford has limited our access to testing.  

[drakes2]

21 minutes ago, billyu said:

The only reason the numbers are dropping is because the great Doug Ford has limited our access to testing.  

Could very well be. I see we are neighbors. 

[Fly and Sail]

17 hours ago, Arizona Wildcat said:

How would you know what passengers if any had close contact?

 

Well most players are tapped in to get their points/rating. But I guess it's also a question of what constitutes "close" contact. There was a severely coughing lady on the slot machine behind me which caused me to quickly cash out and move away. Don't want to get caught up in anything like this.

[Fly and Sail]

21 hours ago, Smmessineo said:

Further info ...we left Nassau at 4 , casino was supposed to open at 5, still closed at 6 when we went to dinner. Announcement at 6:30, when we returned to casino around 7 slots had been opened but no one at tables. There then was an announcement that the Woodford event ( raffle) will still be held in casino at 8 pm. So they seem to be trying to work around the missing staff by changing hours? 

 

Slots were open a plenty later in the evening, not too many players though (might be a good opportunity to get a free cruise voucher if you're after one, less players means less mass for them to sift through of whom to offer a freebie and all the ships are empty now).

 

Talked to the host, she said the staff is fine.

[kimlovesfl]

Honestly, 2 positive out of what, 1000 or so, is a pretty damn low number. Almost half of my husband's staff has been out with covid in the last week. I'm shocked he tested negative today for our cruise on the 6th.

[LGW59]

21 hours ago, Smmessineo said:

Captain just announced around 6:30 that  2 crew tested  positive, no contacts traced, casino will be limiting services. No further details yet  .

Out of how many crew on board?  Guessing 1000+?  In my office of 235 people, we had 8 test positive last week, sent them all home for 10 days, but kept the office open, move along nothing to see here, we have a business to run.

Edited January 4, 2022 by LGW59